Chris Bates & Dan Novalis

Bank Marketing Show

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The BANK MARKETING SHOW, the podcast that engages and informs you for success in today's marketplace. It's the show that will make you a better marketer with trends, tactics and inspirations from experts and industry leaders. If you're wanting to impact your personal success and position your company as the best choice in your market, then you're in the right place!

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Chris Bates & Dan Novalis

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Business

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bankmarketingshow.com

Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

Ep 115 - DIY AEO 06.07.2026

Last episode, we told you to go ask AI about your bank. If you did, you probably didn't  love what you found. We gave you some actionable next steps, but we go much further  into the "Now what?" this week. Most of the mass market AEO advice out there is written for e-commerce companies  and big local service businesses that live and die on web traffic. Community banks don't  operate that way. AI v...

Ep 114 - Can AI Find Your Bank 22.06.2026

Go ask ChatGPT or Claude who the best bank in your town is. Or ask Google AI where to get a small business loan in your county. See what comes back. If your bank isn't in the answer — or worse, if a competitor is — that's not a future problem. That's happening right now, every time a potential customer asks AI for a recommendation instead of typing "bank near me" into Google. This isn't a traditio...

Ep 113 - Finding The Whitespace 05.06.2026

Every community bank knows they need to differentiate. But how? Most banks skip the hard part — figuring out what the market actually looks like from the customer's perspective — and jump straight to writing a tagline. The result? Messaging that sounds like every other bank in town. The answer is whitespace: the gap between what your competitors are saying and what your ideal customers actually ne...

112 - Peter Ort - Marketing and Culture 21.05.2026

You can't fake culture. You can put posters in the break room and bring in an ice cream  truck on Fridays, but your employees and your customers will know the difference. Real  culture is lived, not declared — and when it's real, it shows up in your marketing without  you having to force it. Peter Ort is EVP and COO at MCS Bank in central Pennsylvania, where he oversees  operations, development, a...

Ep 111 - AI Insights #2 - Where It Is Going 01.05.2026

AI isn't going to replace your entire marketing team tomorrow. But it is going to change what you do, and how fast you're expected to do it.   It's already reducing marketing hiring and eventually will impact team sizes. Banks and bank marketers that start learning these tools now, will get ahead of slower-moving competitors (both smaller AND larger ones) who are stuck in analysis paralysis about...

Ep 110 - AI Insights #1 - What You Should Be Doing Today 24.04.2026

AI can write your tagline in 5 seconds.   Should it? Not in 5 seconds, because you'll sound like every other bank. AI gives you the average of the internet, and the average community bank's marketing is, well, average. Dan and Chris break down what bank marketers should actually be doing with AI right now – how to add your human judgment, local feel and emotional nuance to AI tools, so you get gre...

Ep 109 - Go Niche or Go Home How Community Banks Win by Serving the Overlooked 13.04.2026

Every bank has checking accounts and loans. Every bank says they care about relationships. So when your marketing sounds like every other bank's marketing, why would anyone switch? They won't. The way to stand out isn't to shout louder — it's to get specific. In this episode, Dan and Chris make the case that narrowing your focus doesn't shrink your opportunity — it expands it. Big banks scale. Com...

Ep 108 - What Actually Works for a New Location 26.03.2026

Opening a new branch is a huge investment — a new build can run into the millions. Most banks do the demographic research, study the traffic patterns, and pick the right spot. But then when it comes to actually marketing the thing? They show up with a grill in the parking lot and call it a grand opening. In this episode, Dan and Chris break down what a real new-market launch strategy looks like —...

Ep 107 - Bold with a Purpose - with Rich Jones of BankIn Minnesota 11.03.2026

Every bank says they want to stand out. But most don't go beyond tweaking a logo, or updating colors, and continue to rely on the number of years in business to build trust. That's important – but no longer enough to differentiate your bank against the thousands of others with a similar history.   It's time to be bold. In this episode, Rich Jones, President & CEO of BankIn Minnesota, talks about w...

Ep 106 - The We-Tried-That Problem 02.03.2026

The "We Tried That" Problem Real quotes: "We tried Google Ads and they didn't work." "We did SEO for a couple months and nothing happened." "Direct mail was way too expensive for what we got out of it." If you've heard, or said, any of these – this episode is for you! We break down the real reasons bank marketing tactics fail, from our experience seeing these things play out at banks across the co...

Ep 105 - Amber Murphy - The Case for Industry Specialization in Bank Marketing 16.02.2026

Every community bank has checking accounts and loans. So the age-old question is, how do you stand out? First Financial Bank figured it out: they went deep in one niche, and then kept going, building many specialty lending divisions and driving massive growth.  In this episode, Amber Murphy, VP and Marketing Director at First Financial Bank, shares how FFB's niching strategy transformed their mark...

Ep 104 - Candie Simmons - Passion, Purpose & Communication in Community Banking 02.02.2026

Chris and Dan sit down with Candie Simmons, founder of CL Simmons Consulting, to talk about the people problems that slow banks down: communication breakdowns, the gap between being a great producer and being a great manager, and why marketing and compliance don't have to be at each other's throats. Candie spent 16 years in banking (including leading marketing for a top 50 institution), now runs h...

Ep 103 - Building the Next Generation of Community Banks with Rebeca Romero Rainey - CEO of ICBA 19.01.2026

When it comes to advocating for the future of community banking, few voices carry more weight than Rebeca Romero Rainey. This week we had the privilege of sitting down with Rebeca, the President & CEO of the ICBA, for a candid and thoughtful conversation on where the industry is heading. Top of mind for us all is how community banks can stay strong amid competition from fintechs and non-bank playe...

Ep 102 - IT for Today's Community Banks - Scott Stevens 05.01.2026

Cybersecurity, AI, and IT modernization aren't just "IT problems" anymore — they directly impact how banks market, grow, and protect their brands. In this episode of The Bank Marketing Show , Chris and Dan sit down with Scott Stevens , Chief Information Security Officer at Integrity Technology Solutions, to break down what community should actually be thinking about when it comes to cloud infrastr...

Ep 101 - Emily Schwartz - From Content to Education: Building Trust Through Financial Wellness 22.12.2025

Community Banks produce a lot of "educational" content, but a lot of it is thinly disguised sales material, or sounds the same as 1,000 other "how to buy your first home" blogs. In this episode, we sit down with Emily Schwartz, Director of Financial Education at MidFirst Bank, about how her team helps build real trust in her bank, by focusing on education first. If you are tired of just checking t...

Ep 100 - 100th - Chris & Dan in the Hot Seat 08.12.2025

100 episodes. Four seasons. Many dozens of conversations with bank leaders and innovators – and we're just getting started! In this milestone episode, Chris and Dan look back at what they've learned from these conversations, and where they think community bank marketing is headed next. They also turn the cameras on themselves – and put each other in the hot seat with surprise questions that dig in...

Ep 99 - The Future of AI Agents - How Community Banks Win SMB Relationships - with Jared Shulman and Jerry Shu 24.11.2025

AI Agents are quickly becoming the biggest competitive edge for community banks to win and serve small business customers. Chris and Dan sat down with the co-founders of Daylit, Jared Shulman (CEO) and Jerry Shu (CTO), to break down what AI agents actually are, how they work, and why banks should be thinking about building an AI Agent portfolio to stand out in the highly competitive SMB market.  ...

Ep 98 - Randy Dorn - Lessons from a Rebrand 10.11.2025

What happens when a 120-year-old community bank decides to take a bold leap forward? Randy Dorn, President of My Kind of Bank (formerly First National Bank of Henning), joins Chris and Dan to share the story behind their rebrand — from internal debates to a powerful cultural transformation that united staff and energized customers. Randy reveals how a name change became more than a marketing move...

Ep 97 - Charles LeFevre - AI, Compliance, and the Marketer's Dilemma 27.10.2025

Compliance and marketing don't have to be enemies, especially in the age of AI. In this episode, Charles LeFevre, Director of Compliance Operations at Kadince (and self-proclaimed "Taylor Swift of Compliance"), joins us to break down how these two sides can work  together to move faster, stay compliant, and even have a little fun doing it. You'll hear how AI is reshaping the marketer–compliance re...

Ep 96 - Crucial Considerations for your 2026 Marketing Strategy 13.10.2025

If your 2026 plan looks like 2025's...you may not be adapting to all the technology- and user behavior-driven changes that have happened this year. In this episode, Chris and Dan chat about all these changes, and lay out a simple checklist to use as your 2026 strategy comes together - including adjusting budgets, getting found with GEO and SEO, and speaking directly to customer problems. Key topic...

Ep 95 - AI Search - How to Stay Ahead of the Curve 29.09.2025

Is SEO really dead —or is AI search just the new shiny object? In this episode, Chris and Dan break down the buzz around Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) and what it actually means for community banks. (spoiler: SEO isn't going anywhere, but banks that act now have a huge opportunity to get ahead while everyone else is still watching from the sidelines)   What we cover in this episode:    Why...

Ep 94 - Sharveen Kumar - How Banks Can Adopt AI While Adding To Their Personal Touch 15.09.2025

There's lots of hype in the marketplace about how AI is taking over – and while the promise is that AI can help personalize customer experiences at scale, community banks are worried that it will actually make customer service feel more generic and less personal. This week, Chris and Dan talk with Sharveen Kumar, former NVIDIA-backed founder and ex-marketing leader at Amex, about the opportunity f...

Ep 93 - Use AI to Build a 90-Day Content Calendar (in Real Time!) 01.09.2025

EP 93: Use AI to Build a 90-Day Content Calendar (in Real Time) In this second hands-on demo (see Ep 89: AI Starter Kit for the first one), Dan shares his screen to walk through a real example: how a custom GPT can take just three real customer questions and instantly generate 90 days of social posts, blog topics, and image suggestions—all formatted and ready to use.    If you've been using ChatGP...

Ep 92 - Justin Stayrook – The Opportunities of AI Beyond LLMs 18.08.2025

AI isn't just for the big players—it might be your small bank's biggest advantage. In this episode, Chris and Dan interview Justin Stayrook, Chief Growth Officer at EYEMAGINE, about how AI is transforming operations for lean marketing teams in community banks and credit unions. From cutting project timelines to boosting output without increasing staff, Justin shares why now is the time to act. Wha...

Ep 91 - Autumn Jose – Creating Social Stars for Marketing Success 04.08.2025

Can your employees become your most powerful marketing tool? In this episode, we sit down with Autumn Jose, AVP and Brand Marketing Coordinator of Civista Bank to talk about how she turned a simple idea into a thriving employee advocacy program—and what it takes to grow a brand from the inside out. Autumn shares how she created Civista's "Social Stars" initiative to drive social media engagement f...

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