BAD PEOPLE PODCAST

BAD PEOPLE CORDIALLY INVITE YOU TO SEASON THREE... Our warmest welcome back as we return for our newest release... OR – if you’re joining us for the first time, we’re so glad you’re here. In this episode we discuss intentions for third season and why we’ve decided to keep talking, exploring, and making space for “bad” conversations… We chat about feminist approaches to research and discuss questio...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP 9 : BE BRAVE In the final episode of season 2, Christa and Micah recap on the conversations they’ve had with podcast guests, and recall some of their favourite insights and takeaways from each conversation. They also discuss the new chapters in their personal life and the career changes that are taking place as well as where the podcast is headed for season three.

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP 8 : JUST RACE In our episode this week, we talk with Hannah about themes of race, identity and advocacy. Hannah is a Korean-Canadian educator and marathon runner, and in this conversation she shares some pivotal experiences from her youth which led into deeper exploration of her own identity, and subsequently heightened her awareness around racial injustice and discrimi...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP 7 : CERTAIN MEN WOULD This week on the podcast, we chat with Grant Klassen, Micah’s husband of 12 years. Grant is the owner of Goodwood Audio, a company he started in 2013 with a friend which caters to touring musicians - mainly guitarists. In this episode we discuss: Finding a career path that feels right Metrics & Tensions: the realities of running a small busines...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP 6 : FOR ART'S SAKE This week on the podcast, Christa and Micah chat to DJ, or dwi - a local independent artist and musician. In their conversation they explore the context surrounding dwi’s album ‘Zoo Life’, the song-writing process and some key experiences that shaped DJ’s childhood. They also dive into topics like church music, the idea of God as a loving father, art...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP 5 : BAD THOUGHTS In this episode, we continue a conversation around engaging with the world - both on a personal level and technological level; we talk about some of the themes in our lives that feel complex, extremely polarized, and often plain confusing (ie politics, social and cultural dynamics) and discuss questions like “Where does our responsibility lie in all of...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP 4 : LIGHT THE TORCH This week on the podcast, Christa and Micah talk with Shannon - a lunar mentor, plant medicine facilitator, and entrepreneur. She shares memories and pivotal moments from her spiritual journey, reflecting on: Growing up immersed in evangelical Christianity Questions that were always present but never fully answered Working for YWAM and participating...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP 3 : GOOD SOUL What is the difference between a Pastor and a Spiritual Director? What could it look like to engage with our spirituality outside of a church system and all the politics that come with it? How do we cultivate a nourishing spiritual community, or companionship, when we may have been harmed by a previous religious community? This week on the podcast, Christa...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP2 : SPACE FOR GRIEF Nat is an Australian-born photographer, designer, and mother to three beautiful children. Tragically, in 2020 she lost her husband of 13 years in a freak accident, followed by the loss of her beloved Dad four months later due to cancer. This week on the podcast, Micah and Christa sit down with her to talk about the magnitude of those experiences, and...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP1 : WHERE ARE WE NOW? Welcome to Season 2 of the Bad People podcast! In this episode, Christa and Micah reflect on how they both felt after recording the final episode of season one - CONFESSIONS - and where they’re at now. They explore what the title ‘Bad People’ means to them, what it could represent on a wider scale, and talk about how looking at the uncomfortable or...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1 EP10 : CONFESSION Trigger warning: suicide, abortion, strong language In this final episode of season 1, Micah and Christa revisit the original BAD PEOPLE theme of confession . Christa talks candidly about what unraveled for her after the affair - the ending of her marriage, a subsequent relationship - and goes into detail about the loneliness and confusion she’s faced in...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1 EP9 : LOVE, ACTUALLY This week, Micah and Christa discuss love. What does it look and feel like? And how has learning to love themselves impacted everything else? We look at the truth and reality that one can only love others to the extent they love themselves - which sometimes felt counterintuitive (especially in the church context of sacrificial love). We delve into the...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1 EP8 : NO, THANKS Trigger warning - anxiety Boundaries . We hear this word a lot these days. But when is “saying no” actually necessary? And what does it look or feel like to implement boundaries within our relationships and communities? In this episode, Micah and Christa discuss times they've both failed and succeeded in setting boundaries, how ‘boundaries with church’ (or...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1 EP7 : NOTHING LEFT This week on the podcast, Micah and Christa talk about our collective human need for belonging, and how this natural desire can sometimes lead us to places of exploitation and burnout within our “chosen” communities. We talk about how we realized when this was happening to us personally, what it felt like, and how subtly it seems to occur. We ask questio...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1 EP6 : FREE WILL In this episode of BAD PEOPLE, Micah and Christa discuss their thoughts on autonomy & self-governance and how that intersects with our basic human right to exist and think our own thoughts. They spend time reflecting on how, at a time, their inner worlds were at odds with the teaching around them - and how they started to find the confidence to even sta...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1 EP5: F*CKED UP Trigger warning - domestic abuse. In this episode of BAD PEOPLE, Micah reflects on the challenging dynamic between her parents, growing up, and the explosive relational interactions she and her siblings were often exposed to. She describes the feelings she experienced, witnessing one of her siblings being “disciplined” in a very damaging way, and how this ha...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1, EP 4: NOT OKAY Trigger warning - conversations around the topic of abuse. This week on the podcast, Micah and Christa talk about how they acknowledged (or ultimately realized) they were not okay at various points in their lives, plus the many benefits of therapy and how this has played a significant role for each of them. They discuss some of the hard, uncomfortable truth...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1 EP 2: ORIGIN STORIES: CCSR In this episode, Christa shares details surrounding her birth in Venezuela and immediate adoption, and the tension she’s experienced having both her birth mother and adoptive mother present in her life. She talks about what it felt like to juggle so many expectations growing up, and how this dynamic inevitably contributed to people-pleasing tende...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1 EP 3: ORIGIN STORIES: MK In this episode, Micah shares her cultural heritage, her family of origin dynamics, and the influence Christianity had on her childhood and teenage years. She talks about her parents separating at age 13, then leaving home at 19 and moving from NZ to Australia to begin a new chapter; she also recalls some of the experiences that initially raised do...

BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S1 EP 1: BREAKING POINT Trigger warning - pregnancy loss, infidelity, anxiety After fifteen years of marriage and four beautiful kids, Christa finds herself engaged in an affair, but no one in her community knows. After a traumatic pregnancy loss, Micah begins questioning the faith that has defined her for so long and winds up in a doctor’s office suffering from anxiety. In t...

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