Lukas Petersson
Audio Tokens
Discussions about AGI and the world beyond
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Lukas Petersson
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Aug 4, 2025
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Episodes
Trent McConaghy: BCI and merging with superintelligent AI 04.08.2025 2:00:34
"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Humans will not be number 1 on Earth for much longer. Most AI safety discussions are about how to survive this transition, and this seems very hard. But what if there is an alternative? In this episode of Audio Tokens, Trent proposes BCI/acc, a movement to push BCI technology to let humans augment their own intelligence as stronger AI become...
Daniel & Axel: Inside Project Vend at Anthropic 21.07.2025 1:06:43
Behind the scenes of Project Vend! In this special episode of Audio Tokens, we go deeper into Project Vend, the autonomous vending machine Andon Labs put in Anthropic's office. Daniel Freeman and Axel Backlund share unreleased anecdotes and ask questions like: Is this good for the world? What did we learn? What will the future AI economy look like? What's next after vending machines? Proje...
Jonathan Salter: Why we must pause AI development 23.06.2025 1:25:19
New episode with Jonathan Salter of PauseAI! We cover the paradox of how the AI safety movement accidentally accelerated the race it feared, why a pause on AI is more realistic than you think (with 70% public support), and the recent reputational hits to the EA and AI safety communities. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-salter-37a617262/https://pauseai.info/
Janet Egan: AI and National Security 29.05.2025 1:08:19
Janet Egan on: UAE being AGI-pilled, Gulf states building datacenters bigger than US, investigative journalists uncovering China chip smuggling, preventing AI's Chernobyl moment from turning public opinion, & Trump's new AI strategy.
Philip Johnston: Datacenters in Space 19.05.2025 1:05:46
AI will soon require more energy than humanity can supply. Is putting data centers in space an option? In the 15th episode of Audio Tokens, Philip Johnston explains why he thinks it's our only viable option, given the lengthy regulatory processes involved in launching energy projects on Earth - and how Starcloud is building the technology to enable this. We also discuss what it's generally...
Christoph von der Malsburg: LLMs Hitting A Wall and The Brain's Solution 08.05.2025 1:23:49
Is scaling dead? Billions are pouring into scaling LLMs, but what if it is a dead end? In the 14th episode of Audio Tokens, neuroscientist Christoph von der Malsburg shares insights from his decades-long AI journey, having witnessed multiple AI winters. He argues why scaling alone won't solve real-world complexity, and how brain-inspired, schema-driven approaches might lead to breakthroughs in...
Konstantin Pilz: Trends in AI Supercomputers 28.04.2025 1:29:54
9 nuclear reactors to power one computer? That's the reality if current trends continue. Last week, in collaboration with Epoch AI, Konstantin released a paper titled "Trends In AI Supercomputers". In the 12th episode of Audio Tokens, he explains how the compute of these systems doubles every 9 months, why the US dominates with 75% of global capacity, how academia is losing its leading role, and h...
Lonis Hamail: The Startup That Makes Their Own Laws 21.04.2025 1:20:32
How would a city run entirely by market forces actually work? Próspera is a privately-run city in Honduras experimenting with replacing government regulation with insurance, treating residents like customers, and offering permanent legal stability. In Audio Tokens episode 11, Lonis Hamaili explains how this all works. We also discuss Próspera's $11B lawsuit against Honduras for their right to...
Axel Backlund (2): Personally Preparing For AGI 14.04.2025 1:17:06
How should one adjust their life given that AGI is around the corner? Axel and I share what we are personally doing. We also discuss effective altruism, hobbies and the Llama 4 release. Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too. https://x.com/axelbacklund
Max Rumpf: Bottlenecks for AI agents 31.03.2025 1:37:08
The most common critique of my "AI Founder's Bitter Lesson" (tl;dr: horizontal AI will replace vertical AI) is "What about private data?" Autonomous AI can access private data just like a new employee would—highlighting the importance of effective retrieval systems. Few people know retrieval better than my friend Max Rumpf. Max joins me in the 9th episode of Audio Tokens. W...
Mark Cummins: Investing for AGI 24.03.2025 1:32:08
If you're among the few who truly believe AGI is coming, how can you profit from this contrarian view? Mark Cummins talks about this on the 8th episode of Audio Tokens. We also discuss robotics, AI verticals, and the future sources of AI training data. Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
Esben Kran: Building The Future We Want 17.03.2025 1:05:01
I had a great chat with Esben Kran on Audio Tokens about for-profit AI safety. We also discuss brain-computer interfaces, Apart Research, and the new AI safety startup accelerator Seldon. Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
Kristian Rönn: AI Policy and Race Dynamics 10.03.2025 1:22:53
In Audio Tokens episode 6, Kristian Rönn explains the hidden forces that explain our world (and threaten our future). We discuss climate change, his book The Darwinian Trap, AI regulation, and his new company, Lucid Computing. Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
Nils von Heijne: Finding Purpose Beyond Profits 02.03.2025 1:23:22
We discuss his ideas for rethinking corporate structures, the spiritual renaissance, and what AI can and can't do. Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
Josh Clymer: How AI Takeover Might Happen in 2 Years 24.02.2025 1:10:58
Josh Clymer tells the disturbingly plausible story of how AI might take over in 2 years. Doing my part to feed the AI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
Superagent: Silicon Valley's Agent Blunder 17.02.2025 1:13:11
We discuss AI agents, co-founder relationships, technology adoption, and much more. Doing my part to feed the AI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
Anton Osika: Europe's Fastest Growing AI Startup 06.02.2025 49:50
We discuss AI safety, Lovable, Europe vs USA, the emotional rollercoaster of being a founder, and much more! Doing my part to feed the AI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
Axel Backlund: AI Founder's Bitter Lesson 29.01.2025 48:25
We discuss startups vs big corp, AI application layer, the post-AGI world, and much more! Doing my part to feed the AI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
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