edesobe
At This Time
Recruiting is like running a marathon where the route keeps changing, the finish line moves, and someone tells you halfway through, “Actually, we’ve decided it’s a pie eating contest now” At This Time takes you inside the wild world of hiring, with stories from recruiters and job seekers navigating the madness. Join Eric as he unpacks ghosting candidates, surprise curveballs, and the occasional perfect fit. Whether you’re chasing talent or your next job, this podcast delivers humor, insights, and all the real talk you didn’t know you needed.
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May 13, 2026
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Episodes
Maryam Mahdaviani on Why That "Verified" LinkedIn Profile Might Be a North Korean Spy 13.05.2026 8:21
At This Time ... hiring fraud has officially leveled up — and your gut instincts aren't enough anymore. Maryam, founder of Attesto, joins Eric to break down how sophisticated fraudsters are now slipping past background checks and LinkedIn verification with fully fabricated (but convincing) identities. From North Korean operatives trying to infiltrate companies to deepfake impersonators acing your...
Nicole Wellman Noble on Taking the Leap: From In-House Talent Leader to Consultant 17.04.2026 11:40
At This Time, Eric sits down with longtime colleague and friendly rival Nicole Wellman Noble — a charter school talent veteran who traded her in-house seat at Bright Star for the consultant life. Nicole gets real about what it actually takes to make that jump (hint: it's more than just a LinkedIn rebrand), why imposter syndrome never fully disappears, and how her work is evolving alongside some of...
Joanna Belcher on What The Bachelorette Disaster Can Teach You About Hiring 06.04.2026 11:16
At This Time, Eric DeSobe sits down with talent expert and reality TV enthusiast Joanna Belcher to unpack the hiring lessons hidden inside the Bachelorette's season cancellation — and yes, it gets surprisingly insightful. From the "always be cultivating" mindset to the game-changing 10-reference strategy, Joanna breaks down why charisma and ratings potential (in TV and hiring) can blind you to red...
Henry Liu on Hiring Teachers Internationally 30.03.2026 9:18
At This Time, we're diving into one of the most niche — and fascinating — hiring challenges in education: recruiting Mandarin-fluent teachers from overseas. Henry Liu, Director of Talent & HR at Yu Ming Charter School, one of California's top public schools, breaks down what it actually takes to hire internationally, navigate visa sponsorships, and set teachers up for success in a U.S. classro...
Dave Tassone on Leaving Education for Criminal Justice Reform — and Why the Skills Transferred Perfectly 23.03.2026 10:28
At This Time ... we're sitting down with Dave Tassone, a former Teach For America educator turned healthcare talent leader, who made a career pivot that most people wouldn't see coming — from charter school management to a mental health agency serving people navigating the criminal justice system. Dave shares how a bond with a student who became incarcerated during his first year of teaching never...
Emily Gaines on Why People Are Still Peopling (Despite AI) 16.03.2026 15:20
At This Time... Emily Gaines, Head of Talent, HR & Learning at SESI Schools, joins us for a candid conversation about building an HR function from scratch across 16 states, hiring 2,500 specialized education employees a year, and why going fast too soon almost cost her everything. She breaks down SESI's AI-powered phone screening tool — processing 50,000–70,000 applications annually — and shar...
Zainab Ali on What Teachers Actually Want 02.03.2026 10:00
At This Time ... Zainab Ali breaks down fresh survey data on what really drives teachers’ decisions — and spoiler alert: it’s not flashy perks. It’s the basics done well: fair pay, safety, coaching, stability, growth, and transparency. But here’s the kicker — a surprising number of young teachers don’t even know what a charter school is. If educators can’t clearly see who you are or what you offer...
Trinity Dubriel on Why Healthcare Hiring Is Still Human at Heart 26.02.2026 8:15
At This Time ... what happens when a former education recruiter steps into the fast-paced world of pediatric healthcare? Trinity Dubriel shares how she’s navigating high-volume hiring, specialized roles, and competitive talent markets—while still insisting on one thing: keeping the human touch. From manually reviewing hundreds of resumes (yes, really) to prioritizing mission alignment and retentio...
Jason Alagha on Hiring the Heart of After-School 23.02.2026 10:06
At This Time we’re stepping inside recruitment season at KIPP SoCal Public Schools, where Jason Alagha is hiring the people who shape what happens after the final school bell rings. From coaching first-time job seekers through their very first interview to staffing 20 schools with wildly different personalities, Jason breaks down what it really takes to find talent that can lead a room of 10 kids...
Brandon Amoroso on Reinventing Recruiting, One Dinner and One Data Point at a Time 02.02.2026 11:42
🎧 Summary: At This Time ... Brandon Amoroso is scaling way more than just dinners — he's scaling the entire recruiting process. From hosting 50+ exclusive talent dinners across the U.S. to building Scaleless, an all-in-one recruiting platform that actually learns, Brandon shares how he's bridging the gaps in hiring caused by clunky legacy systems and chaotic AI overload. Hear how his platform eli...
Kayla Snowden on What 400 Resumes a Day Will Teach You About Hiring 29.01.2026 8:11
At This Time … we catch up with Kayla Snowden, a former teacher and school recruiter who made the leap from education to tech—and now sorts through 400+ resumes per job in the corporate world. She spills on what shocked her most about recruiting outside of schools (spoiler: format matters), how she crash-coursed her way into tech lingo, and why AI-generated resumes can be a one-way ticket to rejec...
Jessica Edelman on Why Middle School Science Is the Unicorn of Hiring 28.01.2026 10:47
🎧 SUMMARY: At This Time … we dive into the wild world of education talent with Jessica Edelman, who’s been filling school roles for nearly a decade and still can’t find enough brave souls for 7th grade science. She talks TFA, teacher residencies, and how growth mindset is still the ultimate green flag in interviews. Plus, the shift from “no excuses” to restorative discipline, and why AI-written c...
Bonnie Dilber on Becoming That LinkedIn Person—for the Right Reasons 20.01.2026 13:59
At This Time… recruiter and accidental LinkedIn star Bonnie Dilber joins to share how she went from teaching kindergarten to running talent at Zapier — and building a wildly influential LinkedIn presence along the way. She spills on using LinkedIn like a pro without turning into a cringe content machine, why job-seeker scams make her furious, and how being visible online opened surprising doors (i...
Ashlee Fletcher on What Recruiters Really Want to See 13.01.2026 9:38
At This Time ... we're going behind the scenes of the hiring process with Ashlee Fletcher, a seasoned recruiter at KIPP who’s interviewed literally over a thousand candidates. She spills on the biggest resume red flags, what makes a candidate unforgettable, and why mission alignment matters way more than you think. From calming nervous applicants to coaching her own family through job hunts, Ashle...
Emarciano Perez on Why Passion Beats Experience in the Classroom 10.12.2025 9:39
At This Time … we’re diving into the world of first-time teachers, five-minute demo lessons, and job interviews that start on LinkedIn and end at Prank Bar. Emarciano Perez joins us to unpack how he spots future educators—no credential required. From resume coaching for family to turning group interviews into bonding moments, Emarciano shares what really matters when you're hiring for heart and hu...
Arica Watford on Turning LA Parties into Hiring Pipelines 08.12.2025 12:27
At This Time … we’re talking costume parties, career pivots, and clean resumes with recruiting superstar Arica Watford. From pitching teaching gigs in alien ears to building genuine connections that last long after onboarding, Arica shares her magic formula for talent scouting in LA. She dishes on what not to say in interviews, why TikTok might be your next hiring channel, and how AI is helping (n...
Ryan Romaneski on Why Teacher Recruitment Is Finally Getting Easier—Sort Of 19.11.2025 10:09
At This Time ... Eric and Ryan dive into the evolving state of education recruitment, where the vibes are slightly more optimistic—but no one's popping champagne yet. Ryan shares what’s actually working to keep educators around (hint: it’s not just pay), how AI is quietly reshaping the hiring game, and why texting beats email every time. From accidental career pivots to the eternal hunt for high s...
Cristina De La Cruz on Why Embedded Recruiting Is the Future of TA 11.11.2025 10:39
At This Time, Cristina De La Cruz drops a masterclass in modern recruiting, unpacking her 20-year journey from publishing sales to a game-changing embedded recruitment model at ISG Partners. She explains how today’s hiring leaders are ditching traditional RPOs in favor of flexible, month-to-month recruiters who feel like internal teammates. From legal staffing trenches to startup growth sprints, C...
Theo Smith on Making the Jump from Teaching to Talent and Beyond 03.11.2025 11:29
At This Time … we’re tracing Theo Smith’s journey from high school math teacher to talent leader and fractional executive matchmaker. From learning the ropes of recruitment under a TFA alum legend to proving his nonprofit chops translate in the for-profit world, Theo breaks down how he leveled up his skill set—without losing his passion for professional development. Now at VChief, he’s helping lea...
Brian Rosario on Why Retention Is the New Recruiting in College Sports 28.10.2025 13:29
At This Time ... we're diving into the billion-dollar shakeup happening in college sports with former D1 basketball coach and NetChasers host, Brian Rosario. After 26 years on the sidelines, Brian’s now helping programs rethink how they fund, recruit, and retain talent in the wild world of NIL and revenue sharing. From managing locker room culture to navigating crazy parents, Brian reveals how tod...
Dave Bress on Ditching the Rubric and Hiring with Heart 21.10.2025 8:29
At This Time... Dave Bress joins us to talk talent, rubrics, and why AI might just be the best assistant recruiter you never hired. From classroom teacher to education staffing pro, Dave has interviewed thousands (yes, thousands!) of candidates—and he’s come full circle on what really matters in hiring: the human connection. We dig into why rigid checklists are out, curiosity is key in salary talk...
Erin Keller on What Great Hiring Actually Looks Like 17.10.2025 12:04
At This Time ... Erin Keller pulls back the curtain on elite-level recruiting, sharing how she helped sift thousands of applications for the prestigious Broad Residency and what she’s doing differently now that the talent game has changed. From ditching video interviews to emphasizing leadership’s ripple effect on hiring culture, Erin serves up sharp insights with zero fluff. Oh, and if you’re “de...
Kevin Bryant on Why Hiring Is Personal, Not Transactional 30.09.2025 14:20
At This Time, we're talking with Kevin Bryant of GoodCitizen about why executive searches aren't just about resumes—they're about relationships. From hundreds of interviews to countless boardroom decisions, Kevin shares why compassion, clarity, and community matter more than ever in today’s weird, wobbly talent market. He’s placing transformative leaders, not just filling seats—and he’s got the da...
Robert Crayton on Automating Trust in Hiring 23.09.2025 9:12
At This Time … we’re diving into the trenches of charter school hiring with Robert Crayton, founder of Ed Pursuit. Robert built a tool that automates those tedious AB 2534 reference checks—because calling five principals for every candidate just isn’t scalable. He shares how he taught himself to code, navigates the AI arms race in hiring, and why being a niche startup beats being another forgotten...
James Lord on Why Reference Checks Still Matter (and How to Do Them Right) 17.09.2025 11:41
At This Time... we’re cutting through the noise of bloated resumes, sketchy inbox applications, and outdated hiring rituals with James Lord, reference-checking aficionado and North American trailblazer for RefApp. James dishes on why references aren’t dead, how to get real insight (not fluff), and why a “pass/fail” background check just doesn’t cut it in today’s talent game. Whether you're still c...
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