Tye DeGrange

Always Be Testing

Business EN ↓ 127 episodes

Always Be Testing explores the experiments, insights, and growth stories shaping the future of affiliate and partner marketing in B2B SaaS. Hosted by industry veterans, the show dives deep into real-world lessons from the people driving measurable impact at companies like Google, HubSpot, Ramp, Webflow, G2, and beyond. Each episode uncovers what happens when today's most innovative marketers challenge assumptions, run smarter experiments, and build programs that scale revenue through meaningful partnerships. If you’re in affiliate, partnerships, or SaaS growth — this is your front-row seat to...

Author

Tye DeGrange

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Business

Podcast website

www.roundbarnlabs.com

Latest episode

Jul 1, 2026

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Episodes

#77 Building a Thriving Partner Ecosystem | Sid Nagpal, Customer Marketing Lead at PartnerStack 24.03.2025

In this episode, we talk with Sid Nagpal , Director, Customer & Field Marketing at PartnerStack, about the power of community in B2B SaaS marketing. Sid breaks down PartnerStack’s four pillars of customer marketing—expansion, engagement, education, and advocacy—highlighting how their thriving community drives success. He discusses the impact of the Stacked Conference and various meetups, empha...

#76 Unlocking B2B SaaS Growth: A Partner-Led Strategy | Jennifer Rhima , Director of Partnerships in Apollo.io 18.03.2025

This podcast features Jennifer Rhima , Apollo's Partnerships Lead, discussing strategies for building and scaling B2B SaaS partner programs. She emphasizes enabling partners beyond acquisition, tracking activation metrics, fostering internal collaboration, and leveraging PRM tools like PartnerStack for scalability. Rhima highlights the value of different partner types, the importance of data analy...

#75 Unlocking Affiliate Marketing ROI with Media Mix Modeling | Pranav Piyush, CEO | Paramark.com 11.03.2025

In this podcast episode, Pranav Piyush joins the conversation to discuss marketing measurement and incrementality, with a focus on affiliate and influencer marketing. The discussion highlights Media Mix Modeling (MMM) and its growing accessibility through open-source tools and lower costs, positioning it as a key attribution method in the coming decade. The episode explains the difference between...

#74 The Rise of AI Agents in Consumer Shopping: A New Era | Matt Hunter & Philip Qiu 04.03.2025

🚀 In this episode of Always Be Testing , host Tye DeGrange sits down with Matt Hunter from impact.com and Philip Qiu from Henry Social to explore the future of AI, blockchain, and Web3 in partner marketing. Matt, a 25-year industry veteran, shares insights on innovations at impact.com, while Philip discusses his transition from VC to affiliate marketing and how Henry Social’s AI agents simplify s...

#73 AI SDRs for better performance | Dan Darcy, Chief Customer Officer, Qualified 24.02.2025

In this episode of Always Be Testing , host Tye DeGrange welcomes Dan Darcy, Chief Customer Officer at Qualified, for a deep dive into growth, performance marketing, and the evolving role of AI in sales and marketing. Dan shares insights from his time at Salesforce and how Qualified has transformed from a live chat tool into an AI-powered platform helping marketers convert website visitors into le...

#72 Optimizing Publisher Earnings with AI | Cornelius Frey, CEO, NucleusLinks 18.02.2025

We had an incredible conversation with Cornelius from Opinary, now part of Affinity, about the transformative power of AI in affiliate operations and the future of content monetization. 

#71 Navigating the Complexities of Fragmented Marketing Strategies | Ian Martins, EVP, Managing Director | Zenith 11.02.2025

In this episode of Always Be Testing , Ian Martins, Managing Director of Zenith, explores marketing fragmentation and the need for integrated, client-focused strategies. He discusses balancing brand building with performance marketing, the rise of D2C, and the shift toward hybrid in-housing models. Ian also highlights media trust, influencer marketing, and the challenge of attracting top talent. T...

#70 Understanding Partner Promotional Methods and Data Points | Nate Ivie, RVP Sales, Impact 04.02.2025

In this episode of Always Be Testing , I sit down with Nate Ivey from Impact to talk about what’s working in partner marketing today. We cover why diversifying partners is key, how trust and authenticity drive better results, and what brands need to know about Google’s crackdown on-site reputation abuse. Nate also shares insights on the shift to performance-based influencer models and why consiste...

#69 Unlocking True Activation: Strategies for SaaS and Marketplaces | Ely Lerner 28.01.2025

Ely Lerner delves into his role as an advisor, distinguishing it from consulting by emphasizing his focus on advising rather than delivery. He works closely with founders in software verticals such as consumer marketplace, fintech, SMB SaaS, enterprise SaaS, AI, and dev tools, but avoids hardware, DTC, biotech, and crypto sectors. Lerner highlights the importance of integrating product strategy, g...

#68 Role of Thoughtful Attribution in Effective Marketing 13.01.2025

In this episode of Always Be Testing , I talked with my longtime friend and Round Bar Labs COO Mike McElhaney. We explore affiliate influencer marketing, Meta ads, algorithmic machine learning, and B2B lead optimization. Mike highlights leadership traits like low ego, high empathy, and continuous learning, inspired by books like The Captain’s Class and Extreme Ownership . The discussion blends mar...

#67 The Role of Strategic Partnerships in B2B Tech | Zoe Mackay - Head of Publisher Development - Goloot 06.01.2025

In this episode, Ty DeGrange sits down with Zoe Mackay, the strategic partnerships lead at TechnologyAdvice, to dive deep into the world of B2B tech guidance and affiliate marketing. 

#66 Building Gong’s GTM Strategy and the Future of B2B SaaS Marketing | Udi Ledergor, Chief Evangelist and former CMO, Gong 17.12.2024

Udi Ledergor's journey at GONG is a testament to the power of innovative marketing, human-centric strategies, and the importance of experimentation. His insights offer valuable lessons for marketers looking to make a significant impact in the B2B SaaS space. 

Austin Tech Week '24 | Market Masters (Marketing & Branding) 10.12.2024

In this episode of the Always Be Testing podcast, Tye DeGrange introduces the show and its focus on growth, performance marketing, customer acquisition, paid media, and affiliate marketing. The episode features a panel discussion on leveraging AI for better marketing results, with insights from industry experts Alexis Contos (CMO of NEA), Cory Treffiletti (CMO of Rembrandt), Jennifer Barkley (VP o...

#64 B2B SaaS Marketing Mastery | Aaron Orendorff, VP of Growth at Fermat 04.12.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Tyler Calder Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#63 The Tech Stack for B2B Affiliate Marketing, Tyler Calder, CMO of PartnerStack 26.11.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Tyler Calder Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#62 From Automotive Leader to Bringing Innovation to Marketing Home Services, Famous Rhodes, CMO, Apex Service Partners 18.11.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Famous Rhodes Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#61 Growth Loops in Email Marketing, Jake Schonberger, Head of Brand Partnerships, Beehiiv 12.11.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Jake Schonberger Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#60 Effective Leadership in Product Teams, Reagan Fry, Director of Product, Kajabi 28.10.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Reagan Fry Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#59 The Art and Science of Performance Marketing, Richie Carreon, VP of Marketing, Levanta 14.10.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Richie Carreon Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#58 Affiliate Marketing Mastery, Cristy Garcia, CMO, Impact.com 01.10.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Cristy Garcia Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#57 From Rap Battles and Emmys to Growing Product Hunt for Consumer Brands, Greg Rollett, Head of Growth, Grommet 16.09.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Greg Rollett Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#56 Media Veteran, Emma Mondolino, Head of Marketing, MediaLink, former Twitter, Pinterest, and Nextdoor 09.09.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Emma Mondolino Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#55 Growth Experiments: From Metabolic Health to Performance Marketing, Ben Grynol, Head of Growth, Levels 03.09.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Ben Grynol Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#54 The Power of Existing Customer Referral Programs, Will Fraser, Founder of Sasquatch, Head of Impact Advocate 26.08.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Will Fraser Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

#53 Todd Crawford, Co-Founder, Impact 19.08.2024

Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing. We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life. Host: Tye DeGrange Guest: Todd Crawford Hype man & Announcer: John Potito

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