Dan Shipper

AI and I

Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves. For more essays, interviews, and experiments at the forefront of AI: https://every.to/chain-of-thought?sort=newest.

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Dan Shipper

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Technology

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Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

How Two Engineers Ship Like a Team of 15 With AI Agents | Kieran Klaassen, Nityesh Agarwal 11.06.2025

If you’re using AI to just write code, you’re missing out. Two engineers at Every shipped six features, five bug fixes, and three infrastructure updates in one week—and they did it by designing workflows with AI agents, where each task makes the next one easier, faster, and more reliable. In this episode of AI & I , Dan Shipper interviewed the pair—Kieran Klaassen, general manager of Cora , ou...

The Future of AI in Medicine: From Rules to Intuition | Awais Aftab, Psychiatrist and writer 04.06.2025

OCD treatment changed my life—but it took me a decade of chasing down wrong answers to be diagnosed. In the rush to create scalable treatments, disorders like depression and OCD are squeezed into diagnostic checklists—from which the complexity of the human mind invariably leaks out. The field of psychiatry is broken, and I spoke to someone on the inside about how AI can help fix it . Awais Aftab h...

GitHub CEO on the AI Coding Arms Race: One Agent, 150M+ Devs 28.05.2025

GitHub Copilot has 15 million users—more than Cursor and Windsurf combined. So why does it feel like they're losing the AI coding race? Last week at Microsoft Build, I interviewed the CEO of GitHub Thomas Dohmke to find out. I wanted to know: Is their huge existing user base a blessing or a curse? And will their latest launch—an autonomous coding agent built into GitHub—let them retake the lea...

Kevin Scott on The Future of Programming, AI Agents, and Microsoft’s Big Bet on the Agentic Web 20.05.2025

I interviewed Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott about the future of agents and software engineering for another special edition of AI & I .  With 41 years of programming behind him, Kevin has lived through nearly every big shift in modern software development. Here’s his clear-eyed take on what’s changing with AI, and how we can navigate what’s next: The real breakthrough for the agentic web is better...

OpenAI Launches Codex: An Autonomous Programming Agent 16.05.2025

OpenAI just launched Codex, a brand-new coding agent that can build features and fix bugs autonomously. We’ve been testing it at Every for a few days, and I’m impressed. I invited Alexander Embiricos, a member of the OpenAI product staff responsible for Codex, to demo the agent live on a special edition of AI & I . We talk through: What Codex is and how it works. Codex’s UI allows developers t...

The $10B Hedge Fund CEO Who’s Betting Big on AI | Will England, Walleye Capital 14.05.2025

Will England just pivoted his $10B AUM hedge fund to go all in on AI with a firm-wide email: “I wrote this email using ChatGPT—you should too. As a hedge fund, we should be ashamed to leave money on the table by ignoring AI.” It’s working: 75% of his 400-person team are using ChatGPT daily—and Walleye is well on its way to transforming into an AI-first juggernaut. They record every meeting, use LL...

Jhana Meditation Silenced Her Mind—And Changed Her View On AI | Nadia Asparouhova, Author and researcher 07.05.2025

After two Jhana meditation retreats Nadia Asparouhova could silence her mind, change her emotional state at will, and even intentionally slip out of consciousness. It challenged the idea that our minds are not under our control—and made her wonder if we’re more like AI than we realize.  Nadia is a writer and researcher of technology and culture. She published Working in Public, a book about the ev...

The Next AI Wave Will Be Social, Not Solo | Sarah Tavel, Benchmark and ex-Pinterest 30.04.2025

Sarah Tavel thinks it's criminal that ChatGPT isn’t inherently social. There’s no easy way to discover great prompts or share the ones that worked. As a venture partner at Benchmark, Sarah believes that the next wave of consumer AI will be built on this missing social layer—by product-driven founders who understand people, not just models.  Sarah has seen this shift before. As one of Pinterest’s f...

How to Predict the Future With Kevin Kelly, WIRED's Cofounder 23.04.2025

Kevin Kelly has spent more time thinking about the future than almost anyone else. From VR in the 1980s to the blockchain in the 2000s—and now generative AI—Kevin has spent a lifetime journeying to the frontiers of technology, only to return with rich stories about what’s next. Today, as Wired's senior maverick, his project for 2025 is to outline what the next century looks like in a world shaped...

This AI Alien Will Bring In $4 Million This Year in Revenue - Ep. 56 with Quinten Farmer and Eliot Peper 17.04.2025

500K people are confiding in an AI alien—and it's on track to generate $4M this year. It’s called a Tolan: an animated AI character that can talk to you like your best friend. The company behind it, Portola, has 4x’d their ARR in the last month from viral growth on TikTok and Instagram.  Tolan isn’t just a hyper-growth startup—they’re also exploring AI as a completely new creative tool, and storyt...

An Inside Look at Every’s Design Philosophy - Ep. 55 with Lucas Crespo 09.04.2025

This episode is sponsored by Vanta. Achieving SOC 2 compliance can help you win bigger deals, enter new markets, and deepen trust with your customers—but it can cost you real time and money. Vanta automates up to 90% of the work for SOC 2, ISO 27001, and more, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving you up to 90% of associated costs—and Every listeners can get $1,000 off of V...

Being Human in the Age of Intelligent Machines - Ep. 54 with Dr. Alan Lightman 03.04.2025

Our sponsor for this episode is Microsoft. Want seamless collaboration without the cost? Microsoft Teams offers a robust free plan for individuals that delivers unlimited chat, 60-minute video meetings, and file sharing—all within one intuitive workspace that keeps your projects moving forward. Head to ⁠https://aka.ms/every⁠ to use Teams for free, and experience effortless collaboration, today. AI...

He’s Using AI to Optimize His Life - Ep. 53 with Jonny Miller 26.03.2025

Jonny Miller uploaded his entire life to ChatGPT to use it as the ultimate AI coach.  He created what he calls a Codex Vitae—with core personality traits, values, goals, burnout signals and more to load into ChatGPT. It hyper-customizes his responses, to help him access deep meditation states, create custom supplementation plans, and do deep research on areas of brain and body that he finds intere...

I Interviewed New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy about AI - Ep. 52 with Governor Phil Murphy 19.03.2025

I interviewed the Governor of New Jersey Phil Murphy. We spent an hour talking about his vision for AI in government, economic development, and the regulatory challenges ahead. His approach is refreshingly pragmatic:  Spark real innovation at scale. Governor Murphy is laying the groundwork through an AI hub that pools the strengths of the government, academia (Princeton University), legacy tech (M...

Prompt Your Way To Personal Growth - Ep. 51 with Steve Schlafman 12.03.2025

Steve Schlafman is using a $20 ChatGPT subscription to expand his consciousness. He’s doing this through: Advanced dream work —Steve records himself talking about his dreams every morning, uploads the transcript to ChatGPT, and prompts the LLM to analyze it like a Jungian dream analyst would. The model pulls out archetypes and hidden emotions that he would’ve been oblivious to. Creating living rec...

How AI Startups Can Win With Better Strategy - Ep. 50 with Mike Maples 05.03.2025

Our sponsor for this episode is Microsoft. Want seamless collaboration without the cost? Microsoft Teams offers a robust free plan for individuals that delivers unlimited chat, 60-minute video meetings, and file sharing—all within one intuitive workspace that keeps your projects moving forward. Head to https://aka.ms/every to use Teams for free, and experience effortless collaboration, today. Mike...

He Built an AI Audience Simulator. It’s the Future of Customer Research. - Ep. 49 with Michael Taylor 26.02.2025

Michael Taylor has perfected the art of getting AI to speak in tongues. He’s taught it to mimic the voices of your customers—so you can see how they would respond before you ship. Michael is the creator of Rally , a market research tool that lets you simulate an audience of AI personas. He built a simulator that lets us A/B test Every’s headlines on an audience that mimics the real Hacker News aud...

How Nat Eliason Made $200,000 in a Week Teaching AI - Ep. 48 12.02.2025

Nat Eliason ’s career arc is borderline absurd—but it works.  In the last five years, he ran an SEO agency, got into crypto, made $600,000 from a course on the note-taking tool Roam Research , flipped real estate in Austin for a 6x return, and published a book with Random House. He’s now writing a book of science fiction and running a viral course about building apps with AI. I’ve known Nat for a...

Vercel’s Guillermo Rauch on What Comes After Coding - Ep. 47 05.02.2025

Guillermo Rauch is one of the most prolific coders of this generation.  But he doesn’t think of himself as a coder anymore.  Coding, he says, is a specific skill that AI is becoming great at. Instead, he thinks the future of coding is more holistic, full-stack engineers who can ideate, design, and execute all together.  Guillermo is the founder and CEO of Vercel , the creator of NextJS, and Socket...

How to Prepare for AGI According to Reid Hoffman - Ep. 46 29.01.2025

AGI is coming. Reid Hoffman just wrote the book on how to prepare. According to Reid, every major tech breakthrough (the written word, the printing press, the telephone) triggered mass fear. But, contrary to our worries, new technology tends to enhance human agency—even more so, if you know how to use it well. Reid is the cofounder of LinkedIn, Inflection AI, and Manas AI ; a partner at venture ca...

The Venture Capitalist Who Finds the Best AI Products—Before They Win - Ep. 45 with Nabeel Hyatt 22.01.2025

Nabeel Hyatt is looking for the “Japanese toilets” of AI—products that delight users in unexpected ways. As a partner at Spark Capital , that investment philosophy has paid off. Despite making only 1-2 investments a year, he’s picked some of the biggest winners in AI so far: Descript , Cruise , and Granola . We spent an hour unpacking:  How much “leash” top products give to AI agents—and why that...

An Inside Look at Building an Email Client in 3 Months - Ep. 44 with Kieran Klaassen, Brandon Gell 15.01.2025

Building an email client used to take many years and millions of dollars. But Every’s Kieran Klaassen built Cora —a totally new way to manage your inbox with AI—in just 3 months. He even shipped the original MVP of the product in a single day—something that just wasn’t possible before the current state of generative AI.  Now, there are almost 10,000 people on the waitlist for Cora, and we’re onboa...

How AI Will Change Science Forever - Ep. 43 with Alice Albrecht 18.12.2024

AI is going to change science forever. Small scale studies will give way to large scale open data gathering efforts. We’ll shift from seeking broad general theories to making contextual predictions in individual cases. The traditional research paper will change fundamentally. That’s why I had Alice Albrecht on the show. Few people straddle the worlds of science and AI like she does: She holds a Ph...

The Secret to Building Sticky AI Products - Ep. 42 with Chris Pedregal 12.12.2024

Chris Pedregal knows how to build AI products that people love. Chris is the cofounder and CEO of Granola , an AI notepad for meetings. We use it all the time at Every—Granola listens in on a meeting and, when it ends, generates notes and a shareable transcript for anyone who missed it.  Granola is one of my favorite consumer AI products because it’s equal parts delightful and useful. So my questi...

Do 60-Minute Coding Tasks in 60 Seconds—With AI - Ep. 41 with Steve Krouse 04.12.2024

Here’s the most compelling benchmark of AI progress:  A task that took 60 minutes a year ago now takes 60 seconds. In January 2024, Geoffrey Litt and I spent an hour coaxing ChatGPT and Replit to build an app live on my podcast.12 months later, Steve Krouse and I built the same app with one prompt in less than a minute.  Steve is the cofounder and CEO of Val Town, a cloud-based platform for develo...

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