Dan Shipper

AI and I

Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves. For more essays, interviews, and experiments at the forefront of AI: https://every.to/chain-of-thought?sort=newest.

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Dan Shipper

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Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

How a Writer Uses AI Without Losing His Voice 08.07.2026

Craig Mod used to pay Campaign Monitor roughly $7,000 a year to send his newsletters. After rebuilding the tool himself with AI, his bill is closer to $150. It’s the kind of thing that convinces him we’re about to enter a “golden age of tool building”—one where anyone can build tools specifically suited to their needs, instead of settling for software from incumbents that are slow to innovate. Mod...

The AI Workflows Behind Every's Consulting Team 01.07.2026

Natalia Quintero joined Every as head of consulting with a mandate to bring AI into the workflows of executives at hedge funds, private equity firms, and tech companies. She is also a recent Codex convert—someone who spent months resisting the tool before Dan Shipper’s daily pestering finally got her to try it. Natalia encountered Codex as a non-technical builder who had learned to navigate file s...

Building a School Where AI Models Learn About Humanity 24.06.2026

If scaling laws hold—and Surge AI CEO Edwin Chen believes they do—we’re hurtling toward a future where there’s nothing humans can do that AI can’t do better. When OpenAI’s models disproved an open conjecture posed by mathematician Paul Erdős using novel algebraic geometry techniques, Fields medalist Timothy Gowers felt the shift acutely. He initially thought the model had proved an upper bound, an...

GitHub’s COO Explains Why AI Hasn’t Replaced Developers 17.06.2026

Last year, there were 1 billion commits on GitHub. This year, Kyle Daigle expects that number to exceed 14 billion, a two-component explosion caused by more humans—and their agents—issuing pull requests. In March alone, 17 million pull requests on GitHub were created by agents. Daigle is the COO of GitHub and Microsoft’s chief marketing officer for developer products. He’s been at GitHub for 13 ye...

How Anthropic Uses Claude Fable 5 With Mike Krieger 10.06.2026

Mike Krieger built one of the most consequential consumer apps of the last two decades as the cofounder of Instagram. He is now at the frontier of AI-native product development as head of Anthropic Labs, the team responsible for figuring out what the most capable AI models can do in the hands of real builders. When Krieger first got access to Fable 5 months before its public release, it was exciti...

The SaaS Apocalypse Is a Goldmine With Figma’s Matt Colyer 03.06.2026

The "SaaSpocalypse"—the panic that AI will make software-as-a-service obsolete—hasn't rattled Figma’s Matt Colyer. As the company’s director of product management for developers, he's been building his own agents for two years and is buying more software services than ever. In addition to making the case that AI is a “goldmine” for SaaS companies, Colyer talked with Dan Shipper f...

We Automated Everything With AI and Tripled Our Headcount 27.05.2026

Dan Shipper runs one of the most AI-native companies today. Every has agents embedded in nearly every workflow—“if you swing a stick in our Slack, you're as likely to hit a human as an agent,” he says. And yet the company has grown from four people to 30 since GPT-3 came out, and is still hiring. Why does Dan believe there's more human work to do than ever? In a format flip for AI & I,...

Inside Stainless: The Developer Tools Startup Anthropic Just Bought for $300 Million 20.05.2026

If your MCP server has dozens of tools, it's probably built wrong. You need tools that are specific and clear for each use case—but you also can't have too many. This creates an almost impossible tradeoff that most companies don't know how to solve. That's why we interviewed Alex Rattray, the founder and CEO of Stainless. Stainless builds APIs, SDKs, and MCP servers for companies l...

The AI Model Built for What LLMs Can't Do 15.04.2026

Most AI companies are racing to build bigger LLMs. Eve Bodnia thinks that's the wrong approach. Eve is the founder and CEO of Logical Intelligence, which is developing an alternative to the transformer-based models dominating the industry. Her argument: LLMs’ architecture makes them fundamentally unsuited for some mission-critical tasks. A system that generates output one token at a time, with no...

We Gave Every Employee an AI Agent. Here's What Happened. 08.04.2026

While walking to the office, our COO Brandon Gell had his AI agent call him and go over his emails in his inbox one by one. When he arrived, he opened Gmail and confirmed she'd done everything he'd asked. "My jaw is on the floor," he messaged me. That was the moment Every got serious about setting up each employee with their own agent. Today, it's a reality—and it has complet...

If SaaS Is Dead, Linear Didn't Get the Memo 01.04.2026

Founded in 2019, Linear is the rare company started pre-ChatGPT to have successfully reinvented itself as an agent-native business. On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with Karri Saarinen, cofounder and CEO of the product management tool, to discuss building a platform where humans and agents develop software together—and why the "SaaSpocalypse" isn’t coming for all SaaS companies....

How to Build an Agent-native Product | Mike Krieger 25.03.2026

Mike Krieger built one of the most consequential consumer apps of the last two decades as cofounder of Instagram. He is now at the frontier of determining what makes a breakout AI-native product as co-lead of Anthropic Labs. Dan Shipper talked with Krieger for Every’s AI & I about how his experience creating Instagram shapes how he thinks about building with AI, including what can be sped up a...

Kate Lee on Taste, Hiring, and Running Editorial at Every 18.03.2026

Kate Lee has spent her career working with words—first as a literary agent, then in roles at Medium, WeWork, and Stripe. As Every’s editor in chief, she’s been the quiet force behind the newsletter for more than three years. Lately, something has shifted in Kate’s work. After years of watching her colleague Dan Shipper evangelize AI from the front lines, Katie has started rewiring how she works an...

We Made a Document Editor Where Humans and AI Work Side by Side 11.03.2026

Every has unveiled a new product, built by CEO  Dan Shipper . It's called  Proof , a free, open-source, live collaborative document editor built for humans and AI agents to work in together.  Proof started as a Mac app designed to show the provenance of AI-written text—purple for AI, green for human. But when Shipper rebuilt it as a web app with real-time collaboration, something clicked. Sudd...

Meet the Slowest Startup Incubator in the World—Pumping Out Billion-dollar Companies 04.03.2026

Silicon Valley loves billion-dollar moonshots and AI darlings. Sam Gerstenzang and Dan Friedman are doing something different—they're starting medical spas and funeral homes. On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with Gerstenzang and Friedman, partners at Boulton and Watt, which they call the "world's slowest startup incubator." Their model: Come up with an idea, achieve five or 10 m...

Meet the Student With No Teachers, No Homework—Just AI 25.02.2026

Depending on whom you ask, AI is either the best or worst thing that can happen to the next generation. The arguments come from educators, venture capitalists, op-ed writers, and anxious parents—but rarely from the young people in question. On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with one: Alex Mathew, a 17-year-old high-school senior at Alpha High School in Austin, Texas. Alpha School...

OpenAI's Codex: This Model Is So Fast It Changes How You Code 18.02.2026

OpenAI’s hottest app isn’t ChatGPT—it’s Codex. In the last few weeks alone, the Codex team shipped a desktop app, GPT-5.3 Codex (a new flagship model), and Spark, the fastest coding model I’ve ever used. Usage has grown fivefold since January, and over a million people now use Codex weekly. Codex was also the app that OpenAI chose to run an ad for in the Super Bowl. Dan Shipper talked to Thibault...

Inside OpenAI’s Agentic Browser, Atlas 11.02.2026

The AI labs fighting for attention during the Super Bowl call to mind another iconic Super Bowl moment: Apple’s 1984 ad for the Macintosh , which promised that the personal computer would be a source of unbound wonder, freedom, and delight. They were right, but over time, the personal computer has also become cluttered with errands. These “computer errands”—downloading a W-2 when tax season rolls...

How We Built 'Claudie,' Our AI Project Manager (Full Walkthrough) 04.02.2026

A few weeks ago, Natalia Quintero wouldn’t have called herself technical. But since the beginning of January, she has woken up at 6 a.m. to vibe code with Claude. The AI project manager she built saved her 14 hours a week.  Getting there meant scrapping the system three times and starting over. But the result handles everything from onboarding new clients to generating weekly updates across all pr...

How Andrew Wilkinson Uses Opus 4.5 in His Work and Life 21.01.2026

Entrepreneur Andrew Wilkinson used to sleep nine hours a night. Now he wakes up at 4 a.m. and goes straight to work—because he can’t wait to keep building with Anthropic’s latest model, Opus 4.5. Two years ago, Wilkinson was obsessed with vibe coding on AI software development platform Replit. It was thrilling to describe something in plain English and watch an app appear, less thrilling when the...

Why Your AI Learning Projects Keep Fizzling Out 14.01.2026

LLMs have made it absurdly easy to go deep on almost any topic. So why haven’t we all used ChatGPT to earn college degrees we wished we had majored in or pursued a niche interest, like learning how to name the trees in our neighborhood? I know I’m not the only one to feel guilty for well-intentioned attempts at autodidactism that inevitably peter out. Entrepreneur Nir Zicherman has a reason for th...

Vibe Check: Claude Cowork Is Claude Code for the Rest of Us 13.01.2026

Anthropic just dropped Claude Cowork—essentially Claude Code for everyone, not just engineers—and we got to chat about it with a product engineer at Anthropic who helped build it. In this live Vibe Check, Dan Shipper and Kieran Klaassen explore the new interface together, testing what works (and what doesn't) in real time. Anthropic’s Felix Rieseberg joins midway through to explain the philoso...

AI in 2026: Reid Hoffman’s Predictions on Agents, Work, and Creation 07.01.2026

From cofounding LinkedIn to backing OpenAI early, Reid Hoffman is in the habit of being right about the future, so we wanted to know what he saw coming in 2026. In his third appearance on AI & I , Hoffman lays out his predictions for where AI will go in the 12 months ahead. He talks to Dan Shipper about how agents will break out of coding into other domains and who’s winning the coding agent r...

Four Predictions for How AI Will Change Software in 2026 31.12.2025

Tomorrow is the first day of 2026, and to give our listeners a view of the trends that’ll shape the year ahead, Dan Shipper had Every COO Brandon Gell on AI & I to discuss their predictions for what’s next. They discussed how software will be built, who will build it, and what it will take for truly autonomous AI agents to become a reality. If you found this episode interesting, please like, s...

Best of the Pod: Reid Hoffman on How AI Is Answering Our Biggest Questions 24.12.2025

Learn how to use philosophy to run your business more effectively. Reid Hoffman thinks a masters in philosophy will help you run your business better than an MBA. Reid is a founder, investor, podcaster, and author. But before he did any of these things, he studied philosophy—and it changed the way he thinks. Studying philosophy trains you to think deeply about truth, human nature, and the meaning...

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