A Third Place Podcast

We have the privilege of talking with the incredibly wise Pastor Patty Matthews today, who was actually Sara’s youth minister when she was a teenager! Patty has such rich stories about her experience as a woman in ministry, and shares her perspective on just how big and inclusive God’s world is as she sees it. If you’re a cynic for modern Christianity, Patty is the antidote. She discusses motherho...

What if some of the most meaningful questions about Christianity are the ones we rarely make space to ask? In this continuation of our conversation with Meshach Kanyion, we unpack the formation of the biblical canon, explore the place of women in the early church, touch on Christian mysticism, and reflect on spiritual practices that have shaped believers for centuries. Whether you're deeply rooted...

In this insightful interview, Meshach Kanyion shares his journey from a non-Western Christian upbringing to his calling in Christian spiritual formation and pastoral ministry from a [brief] investment banking career. Discover how his faith, family, and experiences shape his approach to spirituality, generosity, and community, offering practical wisdom and deep theological reflections. Guest Links:...

We’re re-airing a conversation from last fall that sparked a lot of reflection for us. In this episode, Sara and Holly talk about gender norms, raising boys, and the surprising places conversations can go (including a Shakespeare conspiracy theory). At the heart of it all is a bigger question: how do we find true community and live out the unique gifts we’ve been given? Where you can find us: [Sar...

Watch the video interview here! Today we have the pleasure of speaking with Brittany Caulfield, who is not what you expect - she’s both a corporate executive with an analytical brain and a devotee to the divine feminine and the sacred arts. What?! She uses her experience to help others build bridges between ambition and intuition. You know, between who you've been performing as and who you actuall...

We have some very special guests on the podcast today - our five boys! That’s right - we interviewed them and got their (brutally honest!) perspectives for a Mother’s Day special. Kids, right? They’ll keep you humble. Enjoy this mini motherhood roast, and Happy Mother’s Day! [View the video interviews on Substack] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers o...

Sara and Holly are discussing the workshop they recently took with Laura Lynne Jackson, psychic medium and author, which was focused on connecting with your “team of light” or your guides in the spiritual world. Get ready for the woo, because they loved it and break down their experience in today’s episode. Resources: Laura Lynne Jackson Mary Neal TED Talk [BOOK] The Immortalists [BOOK] The Measur...

Kelly Young, a 30 year veteran in the health and wellness space, shares her journey from personal grief to founding a thriving fitness community that emphasizes authenticity, connection, and sustainable change. Discover how listening to intuition, fostering community, and embracing small steps can transform lives. Resources from this Episode: READ : Start Before You're Ready LISTEN : Start Before...

Sara and Holly are back on their Enneagram talk - and if you have a foundational knowledge of this system, today’s conversation is for you. They discuss misconceptions about each of their numbers, including how if we’re not careful we might turn each other into “caricatures”, which only seems to divide us in relationships. They discuss how we can come together using the different ways we are wired...

WATCH the video interview with Kathy on Substack! Kathy Evans is back for Part 2 of our conversation, and we’re changing gears a bit. We’re shifting to Kathy’s role as a mother of boys (now men). We ask her to reflect about her heavy parenting years - what actually matters looking back, how she survived the teenage years, and how she thinks she role as mother lives on in the next generation of her...

Come watch the VIDEO interview with Kathy on Substack! Today we have the pleasure of speaking with Kathy Evans, who is Holly’s colleague, sage mentor, and personal friend for the last two decades. Kathy, now recently retired and in her 60s, reflects on balancing ambition and motherhood at P&G in the 80s and 90s, and what it often felt like to be “the only women in the room” when only about 15% of...

Spring is here, and it’s an important time of awakening, possibilities, and planting. We come out of the stillness of winter with curiosity and energy to get outside and get moving. It’s a threshold season - it can be uncomfortable and uncertain. Sara and Holly talk about the human instincts of spring, the astrology that informs how we move in this season, and how we can look at this annual thresh...

What if Lent was never meant to be about giving up chocolate? In this episode, we explore what Lent was actually designed to be — a communal season, held together, moving toward something as a community. We trace how it drifted from a shared communal practice into a private self-improvement project, and why that loss matters — not just for people of faith, but for all of us. Because it turns out,...

Let’s be honest - we all struggle to rest. In a world of endless notifications, constant productivity, and year-round self-optimization, rest has quietly become something we have to earn. In this episode, we explore one of the most radical ideas humanity ever practiced: Sabbath - a full day built into the week where the world simply stops. We look at: * The origins of Jewish Shabbat and its embodi...

Parenting doesn’t stay the same — and neither do we. In this episode, we explore the evolution of parenting, how our perspective shifts as our kids grow older, and the wisdom that only comes with time, mistakes, and experience. From early survival mode to deeper reflection, this is an honest conversation about raising kids while growing up ourselves. Thanks for listening! This post is public so fe...

Happy (Lunar) New Year! We are about to enter Year of the Horse - and buckle up, it’s going to be a fiery one. Sara and Holly talk about the year we’re about to end (year of the Snake), how the transition will feel, and what you can expect from this year - and next - according to the lunar cycles, including what previous cycles in history have taught us. This is a public episode. If you would like...

Sara and Holly are discussing a phrase we don’t typically think about for this moment in time - collective grief is the idea that we are all sharing emotional processing of loss at a cultural level. Whether its political instability, climate crisis, pandemic aftermath, or even technology and AI, we might us other words to describe how we’re feeling (stress, anxiety, heaviness) but it’s all really...

Sara and Holly are talking about Gen Z - the good, the bad, even the “brocolli,” but mostly what we can learn from them. From authentically facing the realities of the world they inherited to how they are redefining the rules for themselves, there’s a lot we can take from how they are approaching today’s world. Also, the communities of Minnesota are on our hearts. If you feel called to help, here’...

Sara and Holly are talking about intuition today. They discuss how we all have access to certain “clairs” and the ability to receive messages that, while they might not be big and dramatic like the movies, can make our day-to-day lives just a little easier. Sara also talks about her Reiki training and explains how you can utilize Reiki to help connect to your body and strengthen your intuitive abi...

Sara and Holly are talking about the history of “against-ism,” how it shows up in the world today, and also how it’s not productive or moving us forward. They share some ideas on how you can be a “For-ist” instead of an “Against-ist” and how it actually doesn’t change what you stand for, but can absolutely change the impact you have in your world. Other resources: [Podcast] Pulling the Thread - Wh...

Sara and Holly are talking today about “Wintering,” and how this seasons asks us to embrace all that it has to offer, instead of something just to “survive.” So grab some tea, dim your lights, cozy up, and learn how you can live in alignment with (and maybe even thrive in) the season. Other things they talk about: [Book] How to Winter This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this wit...

Sara and Holly are talking about a new concept they want you to try in 2026 to enhance your connections and strengthen community with others. They explain what a circle is, the different types you might try, and what to expect from it. They also invite you to join us for their first IN-PERSON Event in Montgomery, Ohio on January 13 at 7pm. Sign up here for The Turning of the Year: A Women’s Circle...

It’s that weird week between Christmas and New Years Day, and Sara and Holly are sitting down to usher in 2026 together. They talk about the history of New Years resolutions, how to approach this “check point” with clarity and a growth mindset, and what some of the “Woo Factor” experts are saying about what’s to come. Join us right here as we say goodbye to 2025! This is a public episode. If you w...

We’re back with part 2 of our conversation with Renée Wilson. In this episode, we talk about how we can be more intentional about our women-centered friendships. We focus on maintaining old friendships, including when to hang on and when to let go, as well as the importance of nurturing new friendships (and why new friendships are important, too). We dig into some practices to help you decide what...

Renée Wilson joins A Third Place today as our first guest! Renée is a school psychologist turned youth minister turned executive coach turned financial advisor. In short - she loves Jesus and people. She also loves music, especially broadway, sporting events, and is really excited for the Winter Olympics. Renée has been a good friend her whole life (Holly can confirm) and is a fierce advocate for...