The Ancillary Review of Books
A Meal of Thorns
A critical book club from the Ancillary Review of Books. Host Jake Casella Brookins invites writers, scholars, and critics to discuss thorny works of science fiction, fantasy, and other speculative genres.
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Nov 2, 2026
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A Meal of Thorns 62- THE VOICE OF THE DOLPHINS with Gerry Canavan 02.11.2026 1:03:51
"If KSR could just write pamphlets!" Noted SF scholar Gerry Canavan joins to discuss The Voice of the Dolphins , a collection of science fiction stories with extremely pointed politics from physicist Leo Szilard. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon ! Guest: Gerry Canavan Title: The Voice of the Dolphins b...
A Meal of Thorns 61- REVENANT GUN with Alexandra Pierce 19.10.2026 1:01:40
"I don't know what planet they're on, but I know about the earrings!” We’ve got a very unusual space opera to read through this time around, one that takes questions of empire and identity to interesting places; critic and editor Alexandra Pierce joins to discuss. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s P...
A Meal of Thorns 60- 2026 UKLG List with Roseanna Pendlebury 05.10.2026 1:54:10
Only in its 5th year of operation, the Le Guin Fiction prize has already become something of a critical darling, with very interesting shortlists and winners that rarely overlap with other genre awards. Critic and reviewer Roseanna Pendlebury returns to the podcast to share opinions and insights on the nine books on this year’s list. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Anc...
A Meal of Thorns 59- OF ONE BLOOD with Garrett Bridger Gimore 21.09.2026 1:07:51
Out of print for the greater part of the 20th century, Hopkins’ Of One Blood looks a lot like Afro-futurism, using ancient Ethiopian technology and the new science of mesmerism to think about racial politics. But it’s actually a bit stranger than that—Garret Bridger Gilmore returns to walk us through some of the novel’s contexts and theories. Podcasts, reviews, interviews,...
A Meal of Thorns 58- LACON V 07.09.2026 1:05:39
Worldcon episode time: we’ve got interviews, we’ve got a coffee report, we’ve got an only-mildly chaotic group podcast attempt! Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon ! Guests & Collaborators: Thomas Ha Alex Kingsley Frauke Uhlenbruch Marshall Ryan Maresca & Cass Morris of Worldbuil...
A Meal of Thorns 57- THE WATER STATUES with Langdon Hickman 24.08.2026 1:04:24
A deeply strange and arresting short novel, The Water Statues defies easy categorization but has a powerful and cerebral atmosphere, putting us in mind of a lot of other works—including Clarke’s Piranesi . Langdon Hickman, last unshriven host of Death // Sentence , joins to discuss. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider suppo...
A Meal of Thorns 56- KILLER, COME BACK TO ME with Aigner Loren Wilson 10.08.2026 1:15:02
More famous for his science fiction and dark fantasy, Ray Bradbury also tried his hand at crime fiction, with often-fascinating results. Writer, critic, and editor Aigner Loren Wilson talks us through the strange flourishes and tonal experiments of Killer, Come Back To Me ! Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s Pat...
A Meal of Thorns 55- Readercon & the PSRB 29.07.2026 50:33
In this con-coverage episode, Casella talks to folks at Readercon in Boston, including Lisa from Narrated , author Sara S. Messenger, and editor Carl Engle-Laird. We also visit Porter Square Books, an indie bookstore that has recently launched their own book review. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon ! H...
A Meal of Thorns 54- SUNSHINE with Laura Zats 13.07.2026 1:10:17
Literary agent and Print Run podcaster extraordinaire Laura Zats is on to talk about a novel that is the most urban fantasy you can imagine, and yet seems to run towards different traditions and ideas the closer you examine it—Robin McKinley’s award-winning but under-discussed Sunshine .   Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books .   Pl...
A Meal of Thorns 53- TINY DEATHS with Ian Mond 29.06.2026 1:16:53
Critic & reviewer Ian Mond talks us through Tiny Deaths , a very funny and frequently morbid collection. We also think bigger: about the place and status of humor and seriousness in genre literature, and why non-genre imprints and translated literature might be places to look for this energy. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider sup...
A Meal of Thorns 52- STAND ON ZANZIBAR with Dan Hartland 15.06.2026 1:13:02
Brunner’s prescient classic about overpopulation: is it about overpopulation? Was it prescient? And, for that matter: what does it mean to be a classic? Reviewer and editor Dan Hartland joins to discuss these questions and more. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon ! Guest: Dan Hartland Title: Stand...
A Meal of Thorns 51- THE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS with Premee Mohamed 01.06.2026 1:05:13
Science fiction readers love a mechanism, they love a bit of world-building and mystery-solving. Premee Mohamed joins us to discuss Gene Wolfe's The Fifth Head of Cerberus , a book that asks: what if a science fiction book intentionally avoided all of that?  Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon ! Gues...
A Meal of Thorns 50- SISYPHEAN with Gareth Watkins 18.05.2026 1:11:39
A rain of corpses is falling from the sky, insectoid femme fatales are setting their compound eyes on our tender thoraxes, and our cattle drive across an expanse of nanotech goo is starting to go off the rails. So we ask ourselves: do we still have to go to work tomorrow? Critic, author, & podcaster Gareth Watkins joins to discuss Dempow Torishima’s delightfully strange Sisyphean . Podca...
A Meal of Thorns 49- MOONGATHER with Molly Templeton 04.05.2026 1:04:36
Stop explaining and start exploring: critic & reviewer Molly Templeton walks us through this gem of 1980s mass market fantasy, with many asides and theories on shifting patterns of publishing and reading patterns. Plus, we spill the beans on the most fun book club, also known as the most fun cult. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please conside...
A Meal of Thorns 48- READY PLAYER ONE with Matthew Leggatt 20.04.2026 1:10:39
The pleasures and perils of nostalgia & reference, the importance of identifying real play versus gamified labor, and whether the internet used to be fun: Matthew Leggat of the Utopian & Dystopian Fictions podcast joins to discuss Ernest Cline’s Ready Player One . Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s...
A Meal of Thorns 47- CLOUD ATLAS with Abigail Nussbaum 06.04.2026 1:10:53
A nested novel that very pointedly bridges the litfic/specfic divide, David Mitchell’s Cloud Atlas takes some big swings at tricky topics. Abigail Nussbaum returns to the podcast with some thoughts on how the novel has aged, and how it’s still relevant to genre thinking today. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting...
A Meal of Thorns 46- THE BIG SLEEP with Max Gladstone 23.03.2026 1:01:26
We’re leaving speculative genres for just a moment! Author Max Gladstone joins to discuss style & structure in Raymond Chandler’s hardboiled classic The Big Sleep , a work that’s been massively influential across SFF literature, games, & film. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon...
A Meal of Thorns 45- THE DEEP SEA DIVER’S SYNDROME with Alexander Dickow 09.03.2026 1:03:30
In this science fiction novel, translated from the French, dreamers “dive” into their own subconscious and return with mysterious & valuable objects. Translator, author, & scholar Alexander Dickow joins to discuss Francophone SF, weird fiction, and artistic allegories & analogies. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please cons...
A Meal of Thorns 44- PALADIN OF SOULS with Liz Bourke 23.02.2026 1:08:18
Reviewer and historian Liz Bourke joins to discuss religion, historical overlaps, and examinations of gender in Paladin of Souls and fantasy more generally. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon ! Guest: Liz Bourke Title: Paladin of Souls by Lois McMaster Bujold Host: Jake Casella Brookins Music by  Gi...
A Meal of Thorns 43- DIASPORA with Eden Kupermintz 09.02.2026 1:13:22
Greg Egan’s work exemplifies a certain kind of “hard” science fiction: not that it’s obsessed with big manly space battles, but rather that it’s using science to really dig into some complicated subjects. Eden Kupermintz, of Death // Sentence and many other cool projects, joins to discuss the scope and the scale, philosophy and physics in Diaspora .   Podcasts, r...
A Meal of Thorns 42- IMARO with Jon Tattrie 26.01.2026 1:07:59
Charles Saunders’ sword and soul narratives, pulp-fantasy-inspired tales of Black and African heroes, helped blaze a trail for the genre—but, like Saunders himself, they have a complicated and still-developing story. Jon Tattrie, author of the newly-released Saunders biography, To Leave A Warrior Behind , joins us to talk about the foundational novel Imaro : its themes, its history, an...
A Meal of Thorns 41- THE BEETLE with Marisa Mercurio 12.01.2026 1:06:39
If you read Dracula and thought: “I like the ancient shapeshifting nemesis and the homoerotic subtext, but I don’t like how subtle the sexual and national anxieties are,” you’re in luck! Editor, reviewer, and scholar Marisa Mercurio is here to talk about not-so-subtle horrors in Richard Marsh’s 1897 novel The Beetle . Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at...
A Meal of Thorns 40- 2025 Wrap-Up with Dan Hartland 29.12.2025 1:10:59
We’re closing out this strange year with a “big-picture” episode: editor & critic Dan Hartland is on to talk about trends and directions—or lack thereof—in recent speculative fiction. We talk about the interesting spread of books & awards this year, do some armchair speculating about genre shifts & their accompanying arguments, and have some very insider-b...
A Meal of Thorns 39- THE SECRET HISTORY with Roseanna Pendlebury 15.12.2025 1:25:51
We’re tracking down the wellspring of “dark academia” in Donna Tartt’s The Secret History , and plucking on threads that stretch out to current fantasy and science fiction literature, with reviewer Roseanna Pendlebury as our guide. Casella manages to throw some shade at Arrival , somehow, and also references Dumb & Dumber .   Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays,...
A Meal of Thorns 38- VENOMOUS LUMPSUCKER with Cameron Kunzelman 01.12.2025 1:23:21
Academic, critic, and prolific podcaster Cameron Kunzelman joins for a far-ranging discussion about how climate fiction, science fiction, and personal and political connections to the environment intersect. Bonus hog sighting. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books . Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon ! Guest: Cameron Kunzelman Title: Venomous...
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