A Different Kind of Walk Podcast

Jeff and Susan are so grateful to have had 4 years of podcasting together. In this final episode, they reminisce about the interviews they've done and the good work that needs to continue in the future. Enjoy the episode!

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan get to speak with American novelist and memoirist, Marie Mutsuki Mockett, as well as Juston Wolgemuth who is a professional counselor now but was featured as a key character in one of Marie’s books back when he was a college student. That book is called American Harvest: God, Country, and Farming in the Heartland. American Harvest discusses grain production, reli...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan have the privilege of speaking with Isaac Saul who is a politics reporter and the founder of the award-winning media organization, Tangle . Isaac grew up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania which is one of the most politically divided counties in all of America. He has lived, studied, traveled, and written all over the U.S. and the world. Enjoy the episode!

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan share a lot of updates after their long summer break from the podcast: updates on Jeff's health, Susan's family, current events, and even book recommendations. Enjoy the episode!

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan have the privilege of speaking with Fred Hagan, who is a clinical supervisor and counselor for students in the Philadelphia area who have experienced trauma. He has regular contact with middle and high school students who have behavioral health issues and are at risk of intervention, being out-placed, or are returning to public school from an alternative, mental...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan get to talk about science and religion with Bill Jones, who is a professor of physics at Princeton University. Bill earned his PhD at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) and was a scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena before coming to work at Princeton in 2008. The focus of his research is cosmology, meaning that he attempts to un...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan chat with Rev. Tara Woodward-Bosman who is a Nebraska native, a Princeton Theological Seminary graduate, and a missional networker in South Africa for Resonate Global Mission. They discuss place and peace and how those two can go together even if your place is diverse, or if you marry someone from a different culture, or your country has experienced Apartheid. En...

In today's podcast, Jeff and Susan chat about the season of Advent, the history of the church calendar, and their experiences of noticing (or not noticing) Mary, the mother of Jesus. They hope you enjoy the episode, and have a wonderful holiday season!

In today's podcast, Jeff and Susan are privileged to get to speak with Dr. Sean Inderbitzen, who is a psychotherapist and autism researcher. He works as a clinical social worker specializing in care for those with autism, and he regularly trains healthcare professionals in best practices when working with people on the spectrum. Sean himself was diagnosed with autism many years ago, as you’ll hear...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan would like to give you hope that our country doesn’t have to be so hatefully divided when it comes to politics. To that end, they have posted two separate interviews: one with DeShauna Blankinship who is voting for Kamala Harris (this episode), and one with Greg Porter who is voting for Donald Trump (see Part 1). Please note that Jeff and Susan don’t necessarily...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan would like to give you hope that our country doesn’t have to be so hatefully divided when it comes to politics. To that end, they have posted two separate interviews: one with Greg Porter who is voting for Donald Trump (this episode) and one with DeShauna Blankinship who is voting for Kamala Harris (see Part 2). Please note that Jeff and Susan don’t necessarily a...

A Different Kind of Walk is back from summer vacation and excited to tell you about this season's theme: peace. Whether it's peace instead of war, peace in the midst of anxiety, or simply peace and quiet, Jeff and Susan look forward to sharing another great year of interviews with you. Enjoy the episode!

As Jeff and Susan begin their summer break, they talk about Jeff's most recent health updates and their plans for next season. They also end up in an impromptu counseling session as they discuss imposter syndrome and the difficulties of middle-age adulthood. Enjoy the episode!

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan are delighted to get to speak with Josh Rodriguez. Josh is from Indiana, he’s a graduate of Indiana Wesleyan University and Princeton Theological Seminary, and he is the pastor of Westminster Presbyterian Church in Piqua, Ohio. Josh is also from an immigrant family that came to the U.S. illegally from Mexico. These two sides of Josh's story are quite different, a...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan give a quick update on Jeff's health. And, since it is Holy Week, they discuss some of the Holy Week and Easter traditions that have been meaningful to them over the years. Enjoy the episode! 

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan get to speak with Mike Abrams, who is the Deputy Standards Editor at The New York Times. A journalist himself, Mike’s job is to help make sure all journalism at the Times is held to high standards of Independence, Integrity, Curiosity, Respect, Collaboration, and Excellence. And, in an ever-changing world with over 5,800 journalists around the globe and news comi...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan get to speak with Kathleen Biggins, the founder and president of C-Change Conversations. Kathleen founded C-Change Conversations as a non-profit that works to build consensus across cultural and political lines on the topic of climate change. She (and other volunteers from C-Change) has spoken to audiences all over the country and internationally, walking them th...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan get to interview Carolyn Whitney-Brown about her recent book, "Flying, Falling, Catching." Carolyn was good friends with the late Henri Nouwen, a famed spiritual writer, speaker, priest, and university professor. Her book–framed by the true story of Nouwen being rescued out a hotel window during his first heart attack–incorporates his unpublished writings about h...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan talk through their reactions since their interview with Kim van Essen on the topic of having a transgender spouse in the episode " Unity and/or Diversity: Part 1 ." They discuss the tools they've used to gain a better understanding of the topic including books, ballet, and medical diagnoses. Enjoy the episode!

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan talk through Jeff's latest health challenges while enjoying a few interruptions from their visiting peanut gallery (Jeff's college/Camino friends, Cathy and David Thoma). Enjoy the episode!

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan are privileged to speak with Kim van Essen about her experience having her spouse transition from one gender to another. Admittedly, this topic is not an easy or simple one, but Kim is lovely and was gracious enough to answer their questions about faith and surgeries and family and living in a threatening world. Enjoy the episode!

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan get together for the first time in a couple months to discuss Jeff's health and just enjoy a good chat. Not surprisingly, they end up having a fun conversation about miracles, books, and God. Enjoy the episode!

Happy Easter! Today's episode is the last of the season, and in it you'll find a very special confession from Jeff as he continues along his journey of faith. Join Susan in the role of a listening priest and, as always, enjoy the episode!

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan get to chat with Bill Haley who is a Spiritual Director and the founder of a spiritual formation ministry called Coracle. They discuss Bill's life (studying and traveling, church-planting and spiritual retreat) as well as where spiritual direction originated, what it is, and what it's supposed to do in the world. You can learn more about Bill's work at www.inthec...

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan and Scotty get to chat about what brings them hope. Despite the most difficult issues at play in our world today, they believe that hope is not lost and that the future just might be a pleasant surprise. Enjoy the episode!