Daniel Patterson & Nate Shaw

7-Figure Music School

7-Figure Music School is a podcast for music school owners who want to create fantastic margins, hire energetic teachers, and leverage their team's time and talent to create a sustainable business. Join hosts Daniel Patterson, Founder & CEO of Grow Your Music Studio, and Nate Shaw, Co-founder & CEO of Brooklyn Music Factory, as you create YOUR 7-figure music school.

Author

Daniel Patterson & Nate Shaw

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Education

Podcast website

7fms.captivate.fm

Latest episode

Dec 17, 2025

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Episodes

Mentorship, Money Stress, and Leveling Up Your Career | 7FMS32 22.06.2022

“If more information was all we needed to be successful… we’d all be billionaires with perfect abs.” If information alone isn’t transformative… then what is? Relationships. Mentorship. Action . In today’s episode, Daniel and Nate invited Alyssa O'Toole back for a discussion about mentorship, the power of coaching, and watershed moments in one’s career. ------- Get your burning business question an...

Ask an Attorney: How to Protect Your School (w. Stephanie Maris) | 7FMS31 15.06.2022

Most school owners tend to be “do-it-yourself” bootstrappers… Present a challenge to them and they will figure out a way to solve that problem! This is a good trait to have… except when it comes to protecting your school legally! On our latest episode, we look at 4 areas that you *absolutely* need to get an attorney involved. And - as usual - we don’t just ask the surface level questions… we get i...

Hiring Directors and Managers to Free Up Your Time | 7FMS30 08.06.2022

It’s a cliche’ at this point to point out that it’s hard to run a business alone… And that you need to hire people to help you scale up. In this episode, Nate and Daniel give practical steps to hiring directors to help run your programs for you. It’s the only way you’re going to scale up in a sustainable way. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicst...

How to Mentor Amazing Musicians in Your School | 7FMS29 01.06.2022

Do lessons feel monotonous to your students? Does it feel like you or your teachers are just “turning pages” in a method book…  Instead of going on a musical adventure with your students? In our new podcast episode, Nate reveals a powerful system that Brooklyn Music Factory has used to bring meaning to each student’s lesson… And, a way to inspire teachers to set big goals for their students....

Ask an Attorney: Teachers Stealing Students and Non-Competes (w. Stephanie Maris) | 7FMS28 25.05.2022

Non-compete agreements are an often misunderstood topic in our industry… So, Nate and I brought an attorney on the show to do a little “myth-busting.” The result was a nuanced episode that both music school owners AND music teachers need to hear. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If you love the podcast, then please leave a revie...

Remaining Rational During Tough Economic Times | 7FMS27 18.05.2022

Many say a recession is coming… And we are currently living in inflationary times. How should a music school owner respond? In this episode, we examine how to remain rational and calm in an economic downturn… as well as how to make “numbers” based decisions to prevent your school from going under. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fm...

Building a Side-Business in Your Music School (w. Dave Simon) | 7FMS26 11.05.2022

Would you like to start a side hustle separate from your teaching business? Do you have a great idea or a curriculum that you’ve developed in your music school… and would like to share it with other music schools? Join us in today’s podcast as we talk to Dave Simon… He developed a curriculum for his own school… and then began licensing it to other schools. In today’s episode, he gives: Practical w...

Training World-Class Teachers (w. Alyssa O’Toole) | 7FMS25 04.05.2022

Earlier this year, Nate and I recorded a number of podcast episodes about hiring teachers. Today, we dive into a topic that school owners ask… How do you train your teachers? To answer this question, we brought on an expert in this topic… One of Grow ’s coaches, Alyssa O’Toole. Alyssa spent SEVEN years designing and perfecting a teacher training system that she uses in her premium music school in...

The Hidden Driver of Growth and Retention (Part 2) | 7FMS24 27.04.2022

Imagine keeping students in your studio longer… without having to use gimmicks or short-term hacks! In this episode, Daniel teaches you a retention strategy that is congruent with what every music teacher and music school owner ALREADY wants… ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If you love the podcast, then please leave a review: g...

How to Keep Students for 10 Years | 7FMS23 20.04.2022

Much has been said and written about retention… But is it possible that most people get this wrong? Is it possible that retention *isn’t* about prizes, gimmicks, bracelets, and short-sighted tactics? In this episode, Nate and Daniel throw down the gauntlet, dig deep, and talk about what TRULY drives great retention. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyour...

How to Hire a Studio Manager | 7FMS22 13.04.2022

How can you trust someone to run the administrative side of your school? How do you find and hire them? How much responsibility should you give them? How do you bring someone on that’s right for your stage of growth? On this new episode, we answer these questions… and more! ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If you love the podcas...

Hiring Marketers for Your School | 7FMS21 06.04.2022

Question: Who should do the marketing for your music school? Should it be you? Should you outsource it? Should you train someone that works for you to do it? It depends… and in this episode, we unpack the answer to this one question and give lots of practical advice for how to experience many “wins” in this part of your business. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel &...

Your Team and Annual Reviews | 7FMS20 30.03.2022

Should you give your team members an annual review ? Isn’t that an awkward, confrontational relic of the past? Do they even want an annual review? Join Daniel and Nate as they share their successes and failures at implementing a team review system… And how to solicit and take critical feedback from your team members! ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyou...

Growth Advice from a Professional Marketer (Interview with Brian) | 7FMS19 23.03.2022

I recently had a conversation with Brian who added 100 students to his roster in just under six months. The interesting thing about Brian is that he has a background in marketing. He left the corporate world to open a music school. I thought: “I should interview him and see if he was willing to reveal his ‘secrets’ to the world.” Brian is very candid about what he did to grow RockU Music. And, the...

Stress Test Your School’s Marketing | 7FMS18 16.03.2022

Wouldn’t it be great if an expert could design a free marketing plan for your school? Good news! That’s exactly what I did in the latest podcast episode of 7-Figure Music School… How to market your school in 2022 and beyond How to fix your ads if they aren’t working A list of non-traditional marketing techniques that Brooklyn Music Factory used to grow FAR past the $1M mark in revenue Must-use mar...

Finding a New Space for Your School | 7FMS17 09.03.2022

Every music school has to have a “space” to deliver their lessons…  And for the majority of music schools, that involves a commercial location. A physical space where learning happens and memories are made. In this episode, we dive into Nate’s experiences on how to find a great space or open a new location… do’s, dont’s, and best practices! ------- Get your burning business question answered...

Money, Measurement, and Preventing Burnout | 7FMS16 02.03.2022

What does it mean for a music studio owner to “get control” of their finances or become financially fluent? How do you forecast for future growth? What the heck should we be measuring in our studios anyway? Financial control is more than keeping track of your expenses and making sure that everyone pays on time. In this episode, we’re going to show you the power of financial measurement and forecas...

Pay, Disgruntled Staff, and Team Meetings | 7FMS15 23.02.2022

We received a simple question from a podcast subscriber: “Should we pay our staff and teachers for coming to a team meeting?” It seems like a simple question… but there are several deeper principles here that - if understood - can cause growth in ALL areas of your school: student results, teacher loyalty, even your marketing. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate...

How Many Hours Should It Take To Manage a 7-Figure School? | 7FMS14 16.02.2022

Is it possible to manage your school in 20 hours per week… or less? Will your hours go up as your school gets bigger? In this episode, we look at the amount of time it takes Nate to manage his school… And YOU will learn what it takes to manage a 7-figure business in as little time as possible. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If...

Taking a Month off From Your School | 7FMS13 09.02.2022

Wouldn’t it be great to take a month off from your music school this year? To be able to trust your staff and teachers to “hold down the fort” while you recharge? It’s not a pipe dream. Join Nate and I in this episode on how to build the systems and “people power” to make this a reality ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If you lo...

5 Books That Will Change Your Music School | 7FMS12 02.02.2022

Wondering what to put on your reading list this year? Here are 5 *MUST READ* books for every music school and music studio owner. These books cover topics of leadership, strategy, purpose, management, and career satisfaction. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If you love the podcast, then please leave a review: growyourmusicstudi...

How to Retain Students When Teachers Quit (Step-By-Step) | 7FMS11 26.01.2022

What typically happens when one of your hired teachers quits? You lose students! So - how do you minimize the damage? How do you replace that teacher quickly? Join us in this very practical episode of the 7-Figure Music School Podcast , as we give a step-by-step system for keeping students… even when they lose a teacher. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: gro...

Create an Annual Growth Plan For Your School | 7FMS10 19.01.2022

Would you like to wake up every morning and know what your most important task is? Would you like a greater sense of purpose when it comes to your school? In this episode, we go deep on how to create an annual plan for your music school… and give a specific frameworks that both Nate and I use to create strong successful businesses. ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel &amp...

Raising Rates, Eliminating Fear, and Financial Fluency | 7FMS9 12.01.2022

When should you raise your studio’s rates? Is there a principle or process that would allow us to know how much to raise? How should we message a rate raise to families… or should we even message it at all? We answer all of these questions and more on today’s episode of 7-Figure Music School ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If y...

Struggling to Find Teachers to Hire for Your Music School? | 7FMS8 05.01.2022

Do you struggle to find teachers when you have a position to fill in your school? Do you get few or no applicants? Does it seem like quality teachers are hard to find? That the talent pool is shrinking? If so, we have solutions for you in the latest episode of 7-Figure Music School ! ------- Get your burning business question answered by Daniel & Nate: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If you love...

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