2Tokens Podcast

How do you investigate financial crime on-chain in a market where many institutions still don’t fully understand the risks? In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, hosts Alex Bausch and Jonny Fry sit down with Liande Visscher, co-founder of BARP (Blockchain Analysis Reporting Platform), to explore the growing role of blockchain analytics in the token economy. Liande explains how BARP helps banks,...

Can local communities truly take control of their own energy, and what’s standing in the way? In this episode of the Two Tokens Podcast, recorded at Bird & Bird during the third regulatory sandbox cohort, host Alex sits down with Meijndert Jansberg (Energy Blocks) and Andries Metz (Amelander Energie Coöperatie) to explore The future of decentralised energy. Andries shares how the Ameland-based...

What happens when renewable energy meets tokenization and then runs straight into regulation? In this episode, the answer unfolds through a deep dive into one of Europe’s most forward-looking experiments: the EU Blockchain Regulatory Sandbox. Host Olivier Rikken is joined by Edgar Kampers (Co-Founder of Hypha Energy) and Johannes Wirtz (Partner at Bird & Bird) to unpack their hands-on experien...

What do 17th-century Dutch coffee houses, paper share certificates in wheelbarrows, and today’s digital asset markets all have in common? In this episode you'll find out, they’re all part of the same story: the evolution of financial market infrastructure. Hosts Jonny Fry and Alex Bausch are joined by Oliver Margolis, Head of Product at ClearToken, for a candid explanation of the unseen syste...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, hosts Jonny Fry and Alex Bausch welcome back Antony Abell, CEO of TPX Property Exchanges, for a wide-ranging conversation that begins with a simple question and quickly opens into something much bigger: what if property itself could move like money? Recorded during a Masterclass final ceremony day, the discussion traces the evolution of tokenisation away fro...

In this episode of the 2Tokens podcast, host Erich Schnoeckel (2Tokens) is joined at Osborne Clarke in Amsterdam by Johannes de Jong (Osborne Clarke) and Max Costet (Fireblocks) for an in-depth conversation on the future of tokenization in the Netherlands and Europe. Building on earlier work with AFME on the future of the European token economy, the discussion zooms in on the Dutch perspective: wh...

In this episode host Alex Bausch (2Tokens) sits down with Michel Chatelin and Joanne Zaaijer from Osborne Clarke for an in-depth conversation on digital energy, tokenization, and data sharing in Europe’s evolving energy landscape. Recorded during the Digital Energy Masterclass at Osborne Clarke’s Amsterdam office, this episode explores what “digital energy” really means. Michel explains how tradit...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, hosts Jos Röling and Alex Bausch welcome long-time contributor of the Energy Working Group: Edgar Kampers, co-founder of Hypha Energy. This episode is a lively conversation about the future of renewable energy communities in Europe. Together they have an honest and energetic exploration of why building these communities is so challenging today and why the ti...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, hosts Jos Röling and Alex from 2Tokens sit down with Kennard Brandenburgh, representing Distro Energy, to explore how peer-to-peer energy trading and tokenization are driving the next wave of innovation in the energy sector. Kennard shares how Distro’s platform enables direct energy exchange between local producers and consumers, creating fairer pricing and...

In this special episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry is joined by Coen ter Wal (Association for Financial Markets in Europe – AFME) and Meindert Jansberg (Catena / Energy Blocks) for a live discussion from Amsterdam, where the Dutch National Bank has convened experts to explore one of the hottest topics in finance: tokenization. This episode explores how distributed ledger technology (DL...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Alex Bausch and Jos Röling, captain of the Power of the Many working group, welcome Fabien Bergier, CEO and co-founder of Fractal Energy, for a deep dive into the future of smart energy management and household flexibility. Fabien shares how Fractal Energy is transforming the way households use and share energy through intelligent battery management, AI-driv...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jos Röling welcomes Vincent van Kalkeren and Ali Karademir from EUTO Energy to explore how software-defined solutions are transforming the way we manage electricity grids. EUTO Energy is addressing one of today’s most urgent challenges in the energy transition: net congestion . As electrification accelerates and renewable energy sources grow, traditiona...

The token economy is evolving fast. 🌍 At the 2Tokens MiCAR Symposium – One Year Down the Road, we reflected on MiCAR’s first year, uncovered real lessons learned  and looked ahead at the future of digital assets in Europe. In this episode, we capture the voices of participants who shared their vision, challenges and insights on where the token economy is heading. The questions we asked them: - Ho...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Olivier Rikken , Head of Research at the 2Tokens Foundation, is joined by Johannes Wirtz , Partner at Bird & Bird Frankfurt and specialist in financial regulation, and Mauro Halve , Head of Compliance at Amdax, for an in-depth discussion on the EU Blockchain Sandbox. Over the past three years and three cohorts, this unique European initiative has br...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Alex Bausch is joined by Pascal de Keyser , founder of Portio, and Jonny Fry , founder of Team Blockchain, to delve into the future of real estate through the lens of blockchain, tokenization, and co-living. With rising urban loneliness and the lack of accessible housing, Pascal introduces co-living as a community-centric, flexible alternative to traditional...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Karsten Bruinsma, Jonny Fry, and Mathieu Cottin explore the evolving landscape of tokenization one year after the introduction of MiCAR, the EU’s Markets in Crypto-Assets Regulation. With a major symposium taking place at Rabobank in Utrecht, they reflect on the progress made so far and the challenges still ahead. A key theme in the discussion is the growing...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry and chair of 2Tokens Alex Bausch speak with payments expert Richard Anderson about ANGU, a gold-backed stablecoin aiming to reshape how value is stored and transferred in Sub-Saharan Africa. Designed to replace unstable and informal USD reserves with a secure, inflation-resistant digital token, ANGU enables individuals and small businesses to...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Jonny, Erich, and Alex take a comprehensive look at the rapidly evolving landscape of digital assets, tokenization, and fintech innovation. They reflect on their recent projects, including the work of 2Tokens in energy, finance, and art, and share insights into how tokenization is unlocking new levels of liquidity, efficiency, and transparency across various...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Alex Bausch sits down with Meindert Jansberg , co-founder of EnergyBlocks (formerly Assetblocks), to explore how blockchain technology is being used to open up clean energy investments to a broader audience. EnergyBlocks offers tokenized green bonds that provide a 6.5% annual return , with a fully digital and automated onboarding, investment, and report...

In this episode host Jonny Fry sits down with Elsa Madrolle, General Manager for Europe, the Middle East, and Africa at VerifyVASP, to explore the complex and rapidly evolving world of crypto regulation and digital assets. Elsa shares her journey from a traditional finance background—most notably at CME Group—to becoming a leader in blockchain compliance. Their conversation delves into the signifi...

In this episode, Jonny Fry and Alex Bausch sit down with Martijn Siebrand from ABN AMRO to unpack what’s really happening in the world of blockchain, tokenization, and digital assets. Martijn shares his takeaways and gives us a behind-the-scenes look at how one of Europe’s biggest banks is exploring the future of finance. The conversation covers everything from tokenizing bonds and driving green f...

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry from TeamBlockchain explores the cutting-edge world of asset tokenization with two industry experts: Philipp Pieper from Swarm and Erich Schnoeckel from 2Tokens. The conversation revolves around the evolution of tokenization from the "wild west" of 2016-2017 to today's emerging regulatory landscape. Philipp shares insights into...

In this episode, Jonny Fry (TeamBlockchain) sits down with Alex Bausch (2Tokens) to explore the real-world adoption of tokenization and blockchain technology. They discuss how 2Tokens has supported industries like finance, energy, and logistics in leveraging digital assets to solve funding challenges—without the hype of early ICOs. From the Port of Rotterdam’s tokenized bills of lading to regulato...

In this episode of the 2Tokens podcast, we dive into the commercial applications of blockchain technology, particularly in the supply chain industry. We're joined by Aljosja from Doc Lab and Juliun from Stability Protocol. The conversation is led by Jonny Fry, CEO of TeamBlockchain.  Together they discuss how blockchain can enable the digital transfer of ownership for critical trade documents...

We’ve made it to 100 episodes , and what better way to celebrate than with an in-depth discussion on the future of blockchain and tokenization ? In this special episode of the 2Tokens podcast , we bring together industry experts to explore key trends shaping the space. We've asked the experts in our community the following questions:  👉 How are business going to use blockchain to improve the...