1st & 25

Episode 38: Super Bowl LX and the all-star crew 10.02.2026 25:01 ↓

A look at some stories from the 2025 season and how Shawn Smith's crew handled the big game

Episode 37: And then there was one 27.01.2026 25:01 ↓

Conference Championship edition

Episode 36: Are these catch calls identical plays? 22.01.2026 25:01 ↓

Can one be a catch and the other an interception?

Episode 35: All quiet on the playoff front 16.01.2026 25:01 ↓

A look at the Wild Card Playoffs and the Quarterfinal and Semifinal bowl games

Episode 34: Bernie Kukar 13.01.2026 25:01 ↓

3-time Super Bowl referee Bernie Kukar is our guest this week

Episode 33: The game that wouldn't end 06.01.2026 25:01 ↓

The Sugar Bowl had the longest second in sports in recent memory

Episode 32: There's so much football that's footballing 30.12.2025 25:01 ↓

As the NFL season wraps up, we take a look at how playoff assignments take shape

Episode 31: Is replay over-officiating the play? 16.12.2025 25:01 ↓

Taking a closer look at what is "clear and obvious"

Episode 30: 'Go slow' 10.12.2025 25:01 ↓

Plus, packing up after the season is done and another Hall of Fame snub

Episode 29: Handing off the white hat after injury 02.12.2025 25:01 ↓

Plus, reining in a game that gets out in front of the crew

Episode 28: Thanksgiving football rivalries 25.11.2025 25:01 ↓

On this episode of the 1st & 25 podcast, we get ready for Thanksgiving by talking about high school rivalries that play on Thanksgiving morning that don’t count in the standings, but are must-win games. Our own Pat Weber shared his experience as the referee for the Chicago’s storied Prep Bowl, and who he worked that game with and an officiating legend who shares his unique legacy. We also took...

Episode 27: Sideline interference fouls should not be minimized 18.11.2025 25:01 ↓

When officials get knocked down, a penalty must be enforced

Episode 26: Former players bring new perspectives as officials 11.11.2025 25:01 ↓

Plus, regional mechanics in high school become evident in postseason

Episode 25: How do high school officials qualify for the postseason? 04.11.2025 25:01 ↓

Plus, quick takes on missed false starts, intentional grounding, and an unfortunate 5th down

Episode 24: A plague of quick whistles and a suspended referee 28.10.2025 25:01 ↓

Also, a tush-push fumble didn't happen, and the replay assist function raised some questions

Episode 23: Improving gameplay through talk-to moments 21.10.2025 25:01 ↓

We also covered pass interference and end-of-game fouls

Episode 22: When the call is 'No more football tonight' 14.10.2025 25:01 ↓

A failed trick play, a game suspended early, and when a huge mistake is made

Episode 21: No pass interference and undefeated no more 07.10.2025 25:01 ↓

Also substitution tactics are getting scrutiny

Episode 20: Importance of clear sideline communication 30.09.2025 25:01 ↓

Reviewing penalty options, celebrating too soon, and broadcasters who know the rules

Episode 19: Before the snap: Hurry-ups and hideouts 23.09.2025 25:01 ↓

The crew discusses presnap mechanics for substitutions and ball spotting

Episode 18: Tush Push false starts and leverage fouls 16.09.2025 25:01 ↓

A missed call escalates the discussion on banning the short-yardage play

Episode 17: An ejection 6 seconds into the season 10.09.2025 25:01 ↓

In the season premiere, we look at a quick disqualification and knocking off the rust in that first game

Episode 16: Officiating is not a Super Bowl topic 11.02.2025 25:00 ↓

In the season finale, we look at Super Bowl LIX, the 2024 season, and what's ahead in the 2025 offseason.

Episode 15: 'The referee can award a score if this continues' 31.01.2025 25:00 ↓

We take a look at the possibility of a palpably unfair act in the NFL, the failed 4th & 1 in the AFC Championship Game, and the Super Bowl LIX crew.

Episode 14: Peach Bowl targeting and postseason football 31.01.2025 25:01 ↓

Postseason football is underway as we look at the