Dead Ends

PLL reaches episode 100 and we find it kind of strange that the story centers on Alison. We discuss the drawbacks of having a new 5th perspective, her going back to school and the lack of interesting storylines with defanged Ali. We also run through Caleb’s big return, the murky situation with new A, the beginnings of Emison and the Hastings shady secrets. Episode 59 content warnings: stalking, bu...

We’ve gotten a couple of mediocre episodes but that doesn’t stop us from digging into all things Mona and Hanna this week. We discuss Hanna’s soul searching, Mona’s affection for her, their summer of friendship and what secrets Mona actually knows. We’re also caught in the Ezria whirlpool again, the Hastings keep getting sketchier, everyone continues to blame Jason and Aria really needs to start c...

We can’t believe that this wasn’t part of a two-parter to close season 4, the action of the opener season 5 seems essential! We discuss the consequences of meeting up with Alison, Cece’s action bonafides, Melissa’s secret info and new club, and Shanas abrupt end. We also shake our heads at the big lie that sets up the new status quo in Rosewood. Episode 57 content warnings: stalking, bullying, gro...

We finally know what happened the night Alison disappeared and we weren’t that far off in our guesses. We are of course left with more questions than answers and we discuss the return of Noel, Cece and Melissa, the changing sides of the characters, Jessica's horrible fate, the Hasting's secret, and shooting on the roof. Episode 56 content warnings: stalking, bullying, grooming, mental he...

Brenton finds himself strangely fixated on Arias getaway, the lack of dramatic stakes and the nice new boy and wonders if maybe she’s the most self destructive of the Liars. We also discuss Emily going attack mode, the shows depiction of OCD and Spencer’s trauma, Fitz’s A theories, and whether Mona tells the truth. Finally we wrap things up with a new tier list and season 4 finale predictions. Epi...

We get the biggest reveal so far on one of the goofiest sets we've ever seen proving that Pretty Little Liars is truly an amazing show. We discuss the Fitz reveal, how long the showrunners had planned this and his over the top surveillance equipment. We also cover Aria's exciting and extremely complicated couple of episodes, Spencer's slide into addiction and the reactions of her fr...

As PLL takes a step into Spencer's noir themed dream, we find ourselves wowed by the production but a little let down by the episode. We discuss the spot on production design, the lack of range for the characters and the influences making up the episode's homages. Before that, we run through an excellent episode where Fitz truly shows his manipulative colors. Episode 53 content warnings:...

A has gone to incredible lengths before, but nothing quite as triggering for Brenton. Luckily we have plenty of other things to be excited about including Mona’s new relationship, Emily’s righteous fury, Hannah’s new hobby, Spencer’s new secret, & a big big reveal. We also spend an extended period of time arguing over whether Mona should be forgiven. Episode 52 content warnings: stalking, bull...

We're finally back! Where have we been? It's complicated... but we're excited to finally be back in Rosewood. We discuss Fitz's new turn, his motivations, how long it'll last and hilarious spying vantage points. We also run down Haleb's complications, Spencer talking down to Hannah, the friend group doppelgangers, the situation with Ali and pour one out for inevitable...

We get lost in the weeds in all the unanswered questions and lore surrounding the pact. We discuss and debate how the pact actually works, what familial ties each character has and the nebulous involvement of side characters like Tess. We also discuss how ancillary Hanna is and the show's failures in creating exciting romance plots.  Most importantly though, this episode means we're done...

Surprise surprise; Ravenswood has a couple pretty good episode! Emily's finding they come too late to care and she's right since we only have two more episodes to watch. We discuss the arrival of Jamie in Ravenswood, Springer's reappearance, our good friend Bea, what this show would be like if it wasn't a PLL spin off, Remy's adventures in dreamland and why the entire cast...

Ravenswood continues to increasingly focus on shipping Miranda and Caleb much to our chagrin. Why do that when you have Olivanda right there! We discuss how the existence of PLL makes this romance irritating, Luke being an even worse boyfriend, and creepy children hauntings. We do find some positives in the attack scarecrow, lucid dreaming and getting the boys together to do some magick. Episode 4...

Ravenswood puts a damper on even Brenton's excitement this week as it steers into teen relationship drama with eye rolling results. We discuss the head scratching turn for Miranda and Caleb, why Olivia would be the better pairing, and our annoyance at everything Luke does . We also discuss the effective scares in episode 3, why Raymond isn't an effective villain, and speculation on why t...

Emily's finding herself bored by the new show, but Brenton finds it oddly exciting and compelling. We discuss our different opinions, the move to horror and the dark thematic material and lack of camp to liven up the proceedings. We also discuss the surprising start to episode 2, distance between Rosewood and Ravenswood, staying in a creepy old house way too long, Remy's suspicious dad a...

We're back to discuss season 4's Halloween/backdoor pilot, which sees the show try to get us bought in on Ravenswood with a very thin premise. We discuss the introduction of Miranda and why Hannah telling Caleb to help her doesn't work. We also discuss Fitz's changing allegiance and the reappearance of Ali. We'll be spending the next few weeks in Ravenswood, here's ho...

It's finally happened: the dark turn that we never thought would happen has officially come true. We discuss the big reveal of Fitz as A (or an A or some other type of schemer), how long he's been doing this and why, and the implications this has on the rest of the series. That's not the only big reveal that happens this week as we also dig into Mrs Grunwald dropping a dump truck fu...

Turns out we were right all along to hate Wren (and also Fitz but that's a given). We discuss his evil turn, where his loyalties lie and try to decipher what kind of doctor he actually is. We also dig into Fitz being a terrible partner/father, Malcolm's paternity, Jenna and Shauna's mysterious actions, Emily's swimming future and Mona being back in her vacation home at Radley....

It's a light week for everyone in Rosewood except for the Fields family. We discuss Pam placing her burdens on Emily, the different expectations between for teen girls vs boys, and the car in the room. We also dig into Ashley's jail time and Hanna's bad decisions, Caleb and Toby teaming up, Mike's big plot events, the introduction of Nigel and Mona's potential motivations...

Hanna finds herself in the possession of potentially incriminating evidence and needs help but instead all of the friends decide it's time to ignore her instead. We discuss why you can't leave Hanna to accomplish things alone, why we'd have an anxiety attack if were one of the group and the Marin's future legal troubles. We also discuss the introduction of Mrs Grunwald, chaotic...

In this week's lesson on parenting, Pam fucks around and finds out and then doubles down on all her worst behaviors. We discuss the Field's family makeup, their social position within Rosewood, the problem of singling out the one non-white family and our excitement nonetheless to see where this goes. Elsewhere we get Holbrook's exciting theory board (!!!), competent police work and...

New year new season! We start season 4 with lots of revealed information but we're really more excited for our new bird friend, Tippi. We discuss what Tippi's presence means for our protagonists and what could be behind Jessica DeLaurentis' move back to Rosewood. We also discuss Toby's history (and creepy flashback), Wilden ending up dead!, Ashley doing mysterious things and Pa...

It's the season 3 finale and we have so much to talk about! All of the active parties in Rosewood descend on the lodge for a night of mayhem, fire and planes? We discuss all the big revelations including Toby being alive (and pretty eyes), the confirmation of another team, Shauna and Jenna's relationship, the potential identity for Red Coat, and Ali's likelihood of actually being al...

Spencer finds herself with a bit of luck and assistance at Radley as we get a heavy focus on her unraveling the strange mysteries of Mona's time there. She finds hidden messages, friendly nurses, creepy (and familiar) doctors and even gets a visit from an old friend. We also discuss the new mobile A lair(!!), Wilden being alive, Ezria's rocky time, Pastor Ted's annoying behavior and...

In a show full of exciting moments, this episode has the absolute highpoint. We talk about our love of Ashley, her taking matters into her own hands and the fun possibilities of her new problem. We also discuss the other exciting events such as Spencer's sauna attack, new information on Melissa, Emily following a mysterious carpenter, the Shauna and Paige relationship and new ammo for the Ari...

Spencer is doing fantastic, she's coping so well and isn't freaking out in the slightest bit at all. In fact, she's never been better. We discuss her cross county trip to go beat up Mona, her gravestone vandalism, and her innovative learning technique called "stripping." We also discuss Caleb and Hannah's adventures into absentee parents and stealing from churches, wh...