Bitcoin for Financial Services Podcast

Over $200 billion sits in HSAs, and more than half of it is in cash. What if that money were Bitcoin, tax-free in and out? Wyatt sits down with Jon Gordon, co-founder of Sound HSA and our first recurring guest, to unpack how real Bitcoin goes inside the most tax-advantaged account in the US tax code: tax-free in, tax-free growth, and no capital gains on eligible health spending. They cover the new...

Buying Bitcoin gives you zero tax advantage. Mining it, done right, can cut your cost basis in half — and write off nearly every dollar along the way. Jordan sits down with Paul Palmer, Chief Revenue Officer at Sustain Hash, a full-service Bitcoin mining operator that's scaled from 5 megawatts to 130 megawatts across Alberta, Texas, Iowa, and Kansas in just three years. Paul — a 30-year veteran of...

Cash App made almost 10% routing Lightning payments. Most advisors have no idea how, or why that number is real. Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Chris Ritter, Chief Strategy Officer at Zeus, whose path to Bitcoin ran through a decade coaching Olympic swimmers, a business exit, and a return to school for a master's in finance and a background in computer science before landing at Zeus and co-authori...

What if you could get Bitcoin exposure with your downside covered by real estate… and never make an interest payment? Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Daniel Holbrook, managing partner at BitHedge, a former 15-year commercial real estate entrepreneur who fully rotated into Bitcoin in early 2025 after realizing real estate's best properties, store of value, scarcity, structural upside, were all bette...

This episode was already on the calendar — then the worst-case self-custody scenario happened days before we hit record. Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Chantel Lillycrop-Kostiuk, VP of Operations at Bitcoin Well, days after a critical entropy bug in Cold Card hardware wallets left seed phrases guessable and drained hundreds of Bitcoin from users who thought they were following best practice. Chant...

Most real estate owners have never heard of a dual-collateralized Bitcoin loan — but the ones who have are getting better rates, longer holding periods, and a hedge their neighbors don't have. Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Chris Drzyzga, Senior VP and Principal at Voit Real Estate Services, to unpack how a 15-year commercial real estate veteran ended up building a live, transparent case study on...

Most people think of Bitcoin onboarding as either "buy an ETF" or "run your own node" — Stephen Cole, co-founder of Castle, is building the entire financial stack in between. Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Stephen to talk through Castle's journey from an automation-first on-ramp called Orchestra to a full Bitcoin-powered financial stack for businesses — cash accounts, revenue-percentage Bitcoin bu...

Kendall Weihe, Jordan's co-founder at Bitment, joins the pod for a rare deep dive into what actually changed in software engineering — and by extension, financial services — over the last 12 months. Kendall walks through his path from a corporate software engineering job at KFC to Coinmetrics (Nick Carter's data analytics company), to Jack Dorsey's Block, where he worked on the TBDEX decentralized...

Most Bitcoin conferences are 30,000 people, vanilla panels, and a badge you never look at again. The Bitcoin Financial Services Summit is the opposite — 200 curated seats, speakers you can actually walk up and talk to, and a room where roughly 80% of the people on stage are founders or executives still building through the bear market. No guest this week — Wyatt and Jordan take a rare solo pod to...

Most people write off Bitcoin mining as a waste of energy or a game reserved for hardware geeks and public mega-miners. Beau Turner, CEO and co-founder of Abundant Mines, says it's actually the most natural and versatile channel for physical energy in the world — and one of the most powerful tax strategies available to everyday investors. Wyatt and Jordan sit down with Beau to unpack what it reall...

Most people think generating a return on Bitcoin means taking on reckless risk or selling your stack. Adil Abdulali, Chief Strategy Officer at Amitis Capital, says the real opportunity is treating Bitcoin as pristine collateral and building disciplined financial strategies around it without ever parting with your sats. Wyatt sits down with Adil to unpack what it actually looks like to run a Bitcoi...

Most people think Bitcoin venture capital is just buying early and waiting. VJ Vesnaver, operating partner at Epoch, says the real work is finding the founders building the infrastructure that makes Bitcoin's future inevitable and backing them before anyone else sees it. Wyatt and Jordan sit down with VJ to unpack what it actually looks like to run a Bitcoin-native venture fund in a market where A...

Most people think getting orange-pilled is the hard part. Matt Golliher, financial advisor and co-founder of Orange Horizon Wealth, says convincing yourself is easy… rebuilding your entire practice around Bitcoin is where the real work starts. Wyatt sits down with Matt Golliher to unpack what it actually took to transform a traditional, profitable RIA into one of the only fully Bitcoin-focused wea...

Most people think of Bitcoin as something you hold. Moritz Kaminski, co-founder of Alby, says it's becoming something your AI agent spends. Wyatt sits down with Moritz Kaminski to unpack why the Lightning Network is quietly becoming the payment rail of the agentic internet, what it actually looks like to give an AI agent a self-custodial Bitcoin wallet, and why micropayments are the unlock that no...

Most Bitcoin treasury companies talk about holding. Kyle Lawrence says the legal infrastructure around it is just as important. Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Kyle Lawrence, Partner at Falcon, Rappaport, and Berkman, to get his take on why most Bitcoiners are one lost passkey away from a real problem, what the law actually says about unclaimed Bitcoin wallets, and why the road to hell is paved wit...

Most Bitcoin treasury companies talk about holding. Sam Callahan says the ones worth watching are playing offense. Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Sam Callahan, Director of Bitcoin Strategy and Research at OrangeBTC, to get his take on why the offensive treasury model beats the defensive one, what it actually looks like to raise capital in a market three years behind the US, and why every bull vs....

Most financial professionals start a podcast thinking it will grow their business. Brandon Keys says you are doing it backwards. Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Brandon Keys from Green Candle to get his unfiltered take on why personal brand has to come before the podcast, what it actually takes to build content that converts, and how financial professionals can stop trading time for leads. Brandon...

20,000 Bitcoiners. Three days in Vegas. More conversations than you can count. Jordan and Wyatt just got back from Bitcoin 2025 and they are breaking down everything that actually happened — from the main stage panels to the back hallway conversations that never get recorded. In this episode, Jordan and Wyatt fly back from Bitcoin Conference 2025 in Las Vegas to give their honest, unfiltered recap...

What does it look like to start a contracting company at 19, turn your first real paycheck into Bitcoin at $10k, and end up building two of the most interesting companies at the intersection of Bitcoin and real estate? In this episode, Wyatt and Jordan sit down with Joe Consorti, Head of Growth at Horizon and Theya, to explore why Bitcoin is becoming the least correlated asset on earth, why the bo...

What does it look like to walk away from a private equity career, write one of the early economics books on Bitcoin, and then build a venture fund betting entirely on the infrastructure layer of the hardest money on earth? In this episode, Wyatt and Jordan sit down with Eric Yakes, Managing Partner at Epoch, to explore what it actually takes to invest in the Bitcoin ecosystem, why the infrastructu...

What does it actually look like to leave a high-paying finance career, start publishing independent Bitcoin research from your basement, and end up as Chief Risk Officer of a publicly traded company? In this episode, Wyatt sits down with Jeff Walton, CRO at Strive and CEO of True North, to explore the mechanics of digital credit, the capital structure innovation happening inside Bitcoin treasury c...

What does it actually look like to build a Bitcoin media empire from the ground up and then take it public? In this episode, Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Brandon Green, CEO of BTC Inc., to explore the state of Bitcoin narratives, the mechanics behind Bitcoin treasury companies, and why true institutional adoption still hasn't arrived. Brandon breaks down the full arc of BTC Inc.'s journey, from...

What does it actually look like to bring Wall Street deal-making into the Bitcoin ecosystem? In this episode, Jordan and Wyatt sit down with Scott Marmoll, Founder and Managing Director of Capital B Advisory, to explore the state of Bitcoin capital markets, the evolution of Bitcoin-backed lending, and why institutional finance still hasn't truly bet on Bitcoin. Scott breaks down the full maturity...

What if you could hold Bitcoin for the long term, access liquidity when you need it, and do it all without ever giving up control of your keys? In this episode, we sit down with Ben Bryla, Director of Sales at Unchained, to break down everything their platform has to offer… from collaborative custody and collateralized lending to Bitcoin IRAs and inheritance planning, all built natively around Bit...

What if you could live off your Bitcoin wealth without ever selling it and do it completely tax-free? In this episode, we sit down with Danny Baer, Director of Wealth and Asset Management at Meanwhile, to explore what it looks like to build a financial institution fully denominated in Bitcoin. Not bolting Bitcoin onto a fiat product, but actually using Bitcoin as the currency. Danny walks us throu...