The Payments Trilogue
The Payments Trilogue
The Payments Trilogue is a podcast of 3 seasoned payments professionals aiming to foster the European payments industry's stakeholder collaboration and self-regulation. Michael Salmony, Javier Santamaria and Ralf Ohlhausen discuss current topics from their different perspectives. A light-hearted, in-depth and sometimes controversial view on what is hot in payments and beyond.
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27 Οκτ 2026
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TPT #56 CBDCs IN ASIA 27.10.2026 43:46
In this episode, Syed Musheer Ahmed explains the current state and future potential of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) across Asia, exploring various projects (incl. mBridge), use cases, and regional differences. Discover how CBDCs are done elsewhere to transform payments, cross-border trade, and financial inclusion.
TPT #55 PSD3 & PSR OUTCOME 13.10.2026 47:39
In this episode, Scott McInnes from Bird & Bird explains the outcome of the PSD3/PSR trilogue and what to expect from the 3rd revision of this legislation. We cover liabilities, fraud, open banking, exemptions and the missing agentic AI provisions. Scott provides valuable insights into regulatory challenges, market impacts, and future trends in the payment industry.
TPT #54 FRAUD 2 29.09.2026 47:25
In this episode, we are discussing again the rapidly evolving landscape of fraud in the payment industry. This time with Richard Harris, EVP Head of Strategy & Advisory at Feedzai, who is explaining the shift from card-based to account-to-account (A2A) fraud, the organization of cybercrime, and strategies for defense.
TPT #53 TOKENISATION OF MONEY 15.09.2026 42:15
This episode explores the future of digital money, focusing on tokenisation, trust, regulation, and the evolving landscape of central bank digital currencies, commercial bank money tokens and stablecoins. The 3 authors of the book "Tokenisation of Money", Selim Yazıcı, C. Coşkun Küçüközmen, and Michael Salmony, who are experts from academia, central banking, and industry share insights o...
TPT #52 RATINGS & PAYMENTS 01.09.2026 39:40
In this episode, Sophia Furber from S&P Global's FinTech and Payments research practice, shares insights on the evolving landscape of payments, stablecoins, open banking, and Europe's payment sovereignty. Discover how this relates to their ratings business (or not) and what their research activities are showing.
TPT #51 NORDICS 18.08.2026 44:35
In this episode, we discuss payments in the Nordics with Ville Sointu, Chief Strategist, Transaction Banking at Nordea. The Nordics are traditionally ahead of other regions and we discover why that is and what we can learn from their innovations in relation to retail payments, blockchain projects, open banking, electronic identity, and the digital euro. Fintech Daydreaming Podcast: https://fintech...
TPT #50 UK PAYMENTS INITIATIVE 04.08.2026 41:21
In this episode, Charles Damen, Non-Executive Director of the UK Payments Initiative, explains this new venture, and we discuss its impact on open banking and the future of payments in Europe. Discover how the UK's open banking approach is shaping the industry, the regulatory enforcement and competition policy behind it, what it changes for merchants and retail payments, and what European paym...
TPT #49 DEBUNKING BLOCKCHAIN 21.07.2026 35:15
In this episode, we host Lars Hupel, Chief Evangelist at Giesecke+Devrient, to discuss the realities and myths of blockchain, DLT and smart contract technologies in finance. We explore programmability, consensus mechanisms, legal limitations, offline CBDC and the future of digital currencies.
TPT #48 GIROCARD 07.07.2026 36:32
In this episode, we discuss the success of the Girocard in Germany with Matthias Hönisch, Head of Card Business Department at BVR, and how it will fit into the future of European payment schemes, especially in relation to Wero and the digital euro. We also explore local schemes more generally, as well as standardization efforts such as CPACE, and strategic visions for payment sovereignty.
TPT #47 GOOD, BAD & UGLY 23.06.2026 45:05
In this episode, Olivier Denecker, a former McKinsey payments expert, shares insights on Europe's payment innovations, regulatory impacts, and the future of European payment systems. With what he calls the good, the bad and the ugly, we explore Europe's strengths, challenges, and the path to creating a competitive, sovereign payment landscape.
TPT #46 PREMIUM APIs 09.06.2026 42:28
This episode features Ortwin Scheja, who is the Lead Architect of the Berlin Group and a leading expert in open banking and API standards. We are discussing the evolution of premium APIs, open finance, and the future of banking standards in Europe. Gain insights into the differences between compliance and premium APIs, and how standardization can drive innovation and reduce costs.
TPT #45 BERLIN GROUP 26.05.2026 50:18
In this episode, we host Wijnand Machielse from Berlin Group to discuss the evolution of open banking standards and premium APIs, the challenges of harmonization across Europe, and their future in relation to open finance, digital euro, and AI in payments.
TPT #44 AGENTIC COMMERCE 12.05.2026 43:02
In this episode, we host Chris Jones, MD of PSE Consulting, to discuss the prospects of agentic commerce, its practical implications, consumer and merchant readiness, regulatory challenges, and the evolving role of AI and liability in payment transactions.
TPT #43 PAYPAL 28.04.2026 41:38
In this episode, we host Mathilde Bonneau and Matti Salakari from PayPal to discuss their current position in the European payments ecosystem. We cover regulation, digital innovation, and global competitiveness, and we also explore their view on European payments sovereignty, PSD3/PSR, fraud prevention, and how to make wallet-based account-to-account (A2A) payments successful at the physical point...
TPT #42 ClearBank 14.04.2026 39:06
In this episode, Ezequiel Canestrari, COO of ClearBank Europe explains the role of infrastructure banks, the impact of SEPA Instant payments, and their strategic move into stablecoins and cross-border payments. We discuss how fintechs can profit from working with sponsor banks, and the future of embedded banking in Europe.
TPT #41 EPSG 31.03.2026 26:19
In this episode, we discuss the purpose of the European Payments Stakeholders Group (EPSG) with its chairman Torbjörn Furubjelke. We cover the role it played in harmonizing European card payments (when it was still called ECSG), and how it is now expanding this to mobile instant payments to allow consumers an easy and fair choice between all the options for making retail payments in ecommerce and...
TPT #40 INTEROPERABILITY 17.03.2026 27:59
In this episode, we explore the complexities of interoperability in European payments, comparing greenfield solutions versus combining and leveraging existing infrastructure. We cover technical, legal, and commercial challenges, and the current status of payments interoperability in Europe.
TPT #39 PAYMENTS INFRASTRUCTURE vs. SERVICES 03.03.2026 33:08
In this episode, we have a lively discussion about the state of payments in Europe, focusing on the balance between infrastructure and service innovation. We explore cultural perspectives, the role of fintechs, and the impact of regulation on the development of payment solutions. The conversation highlights the need for a shift towards user-oriented services and the challenges of creating a single...
TPT #38 PAYMENTS REGULATION 17.02.2026 1:01:57
In this episode, we welcome Eric Ducoulombier, who is in charge of payments regulation at the European Commission. He reflects on the successes and challenges of these regulations, particularly in the areas of open banking and fraud prevention, while acknowledging the complexities of enforcement and the role of national authorities in ensuring compliance. We discuss the balance between regulation...
TPT #37 NEXUS 03.02.2026 40:26
In this episode, we engage with Mark Munne from Nexus Global Payments (NGP) to discuss the innovative Project Nexus, which grew out of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) and is aimed at enhancing instant cross-border payment systems. We discuss the challenges of interoperability, the governance structure of Nexus, and the importance of transparency and cost reduction in international tra...
TPT #36 E-INVOICING 20.01.2026 42:23
In this episode, we discuss the critical topic of e-invoicing. Charles Bryant, a well-known expert in the field, shares insights on the evolution of e-invoicing, its importance in the payment process, and the global landscape of e-invoicing adoption. The conversation covers the distinction between invoices and payments, the role of standards like PEPPOL, and that of VAT and ERPs, the impact of AI,...
TPT #35 B2B PAYMENTS 06.01.2026 44:40
In this episode, we explore the often-overlooked topic of B2B payments with Erin McCune, a well-known expert on this subject. We discuss the significant market size of B2B transactions, the interests of buyers and suppliers, the challenges faced by SMEs, the role of fintech in transforming payment processes, and the impact of regulatory frameworks. The conversation explores the unique needs of bus...
TPT #34 XMAS SPECIAL 2025 23.12.2025 41:32
In this festive episode, we reflect on our previous year's wishes regarding the payments landscape, discuss what has come to fruition and what remains unfulfilled. We explore the challenges posed by regulations, the importance of accountability in public institutions, and the potential of innovations like the digital euro, stablecoins and EUDI wallet. Our conversation also touches on the disap...
TPT #33 LEI 09.12.2025 39:31
In this episode, we discuss the critical role of identity in payments, focusing on the Legal Entity Identifier (LEI) and its verifiable version (vLEI). Alexandre Kech, CEO of GLEIF, explains how LEIs serve as a passport for organizations, facilitating cross-border payments and trade. The conversation covers the challenges of LEI adoption, the importance of organizational identity, and the need for...
TPT #32 CROSS-BORDER 25.11.2025 35:38
In this episode, we discuss the complexities and advancements in cross-border instant payments, focusing on OLO, the European One-Leg-Out scheme, its implications for the SEPA area, and the challenges of adoption. We also explore global initiatives, like SWIFT's GPI and BIS' Nexus project, how these relate to the G20 roadmap for cross-border payments, and how everything could fit together...
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