Dan Geller & Vanessa Chang
Will Work. For Food.
Two industry friends talk about AI from the perspective of folks who prioritize humanity.
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"Human in the Loop" to "Human in the Lead" 26.02.2026 30:03
In this conversation, Vanessa and Dan explore the evolving concepts of 'human in the lead' versus 'human in the loop' in the context of AI and automation. They discuss the implications of these shifts for agency, autonomy, and job security, emphasizing the need for individuals to take responsibility and lead in their interactions with AI technologies. The conversation also touches on the challenge...
The Reality of Building AI Solutions 25.02.2026 37:29
In this conversation, Dan and Vanessa explore the complexities and realities of working with AI technology. They discuss the excitement surrounding AI, the challenges of building effective solutions, the importance of data ownership, and the iterative nature of AI development. They emphasize the need for realistic expectations and the transformative potential of AI while acknowledging that it is n...
Putting A Pause on OpenClaw 25.02.2026 33:27
Everyone's talking about OpenClaw — but what if you're not using it yet? Should you jump on the bandwagon? In this episode, Vanessa and Dan take a contrarian (or maybe just honest) look at the open-source personal agent that's taken AI feeds by storm. They're not here to hype it or dismiss it. They're here to normalize the question: Do I actually need this right now? From the promises of persisten...
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