With Amira and Ibrahim
Unapologetic: The Third Narrative
UTTN is an independent podcast created and hosted by Palestinian activists Amira Mohammed (‘67) and Ibrahim Abu Ahmad (‘48). For decades, narratives on Palestine and Israel have been deeply polarized, fueling division and sustaining inequalities that block justice and peace. A Third Narrative is essential to break this cycle. It fosters an inclusive community for those seeking real solutions and committed to nonviolence. It envisions a future that doesn’t just mediate between sides but transforms the conversation—paving the way for meaningful change.
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Necessity Fuels Innovation 17.05.2026 1:02:23
In this episode of UTTN: The Podcast , we speak with Nisreen, founder and CEO of Makers Tech for Good — a Palestinian initiative reimagining what innovation can look like when it is driven by community, necessity, and care. Based in Ramallah, Makers brings together engineers, therapists, designers, volunteers, and families to develop practical solutions for people often overlooked by traditional...
ALBI, there for you 29.03.2026 1:48:06
In this episode, we sit with Libby Lenkinski, Founder and President of Albi , a fund, institute, and lab built on one belief: that art is not an accessory to change, it is the spark. After years in movement spaces, Libby turned toward culture as the ground where possibility is first imagined. What she is building with Albi is not just support for artists, but an infrastructure for imagination. A c...
Clean Shelter 01.03.2026 54:25
What began as a conversation did not stay there. It turned into persistence. Into urgency. Into late-night phone calls and constant coordination. Into people refusing to sit still. At the center of it was a question: What do the people of Gaza need right now, and how do we get it to them? Clean Shelter was born from that question, and from two women who refused to be bystanders. In this episode, w...
Disruptive Education 08.02.2026 1:37:53
Stories are how we learn who we are, who belongs, and who we’re taught to fear. Some stories are inherited so early they feel like truth. Others begin to fracture only when lived reality no longer matches what we were told. In this episode we're joined by Becca Strober , an educator and organizer whose life has been shaped by the slow, painful unraveling of the stories they grew up with. From...
Objection Overruled 25.01.2026 1:16:58
Laws are meant to protect people, maintain order, and define what’s fair. But what happens when the law is applied only to some, while denying rights to others? For Palestinian citizens of Israel, this is a daily reality. Laws meant to safeguard freedom of speech, movement, and expression are often used as tools of control, punishment, and exclusion, rights that exist on paper but are routinely de...
Palestinian Poetic Justice 18.01.2026 1:35:50
For more than 26 years, Tamer Nafar has bent language into a weapon, a mirror, and the airplane’s black box. In his words: "The world is a crashing plane. I'm not Captain Sully; I cannot save the day. I'm that black box. I'm nothing but that black box. I document, eject seat, then cash out." From the birth of Palestinian hip-hop to today, his voice has never separated art fro...
Let's Reflect 11.01.2026 1:06:12
In this episode, we strip things back and sit down for an honest one-on-one. Amira and Ibrahim reflect on Season 2 so far—what it’s stirred up, what they’ve learned, and how the conversations are evolving. They unpack newly introduced terminology, respond to audience feedback, and unpack their personal feelings. Be sure to listen until the end of the episode, where we introduce HUMAN EYES - a proj...
From Grassroots to Purple Skies 21.12.2025 1:27:34
In Episode 8, we sit down with Sally Abed — socialist organizer, new mother, and the first Palestinian woman to lead a joint Jewish-Arab slate and be elected to Haifa’s municipal council with Haifa Majority . As a leader in the purple grassroots movement , Standing Together , she works to turn joint struggle into political impact. Sally reflects on her path from neighborhood activism to municipal...
Changing Minds, One Post At a Time 14.12.2025 1:55:43
Eran Nissan calls himself “a juggler,” and for good reason. He moves between multiple initiatives focused on peace, reconciliation, and co-resistance between Israelis and Palestinians, all while leading Mehazkim as its CEO. Mehazkim — whose name in Hebrew means “to strengthen” or “to empower” — is a left-wing digital movement advancing equality, ending the occupation, defending democracy and human...
Existence is Resistance 23.11.2025 1:07:35
In this powerful episode, we sit down with Nimala Kharoufeh — an inspirational teacher, women's circle trainer, group facilitator, and the first Samara Yoga teacher in the Middle East. She holds over 14 accredited certificates in self-development and well-being. With 15 years of experience in local and international peacebuilding organizations, she specializes in youth and women’s development, le...
Allow us to Demonstrate: Solidarity 16.11.2025 1:10:25
In this episode, Danielle Cantor — co-mother and community organizer with Culture of Solidarity , a grassroots mutual aid collective — opens up on what it means to live and act from a place of radical care in unbearable times. Culture of Solidarity builds networks of care, resistance, and justice from the ground up, bringing together activists, organizers, and neighbors to meet urgent needs while...
Harmony in the Midst of Chaos 26.10.2025 1:12:25
From a young age, Mahdi refused to let judgment or limitation define him. Where others saw barriers, he instinctively looked for ways forward, creating solutions in the spaces that needed them most. That same determination drives his work today as Co-founder of Harmony Network , a platform uniting the Arab minority in Israel to cultivate a powerful community of skilled professionals. The network p...
Palestine's Big Sis 19.10.2025 1:22:51
From the hills of Dura to the heart of Gaza, Yara moves with conviction, turning care into action. Shaped by loss and love, she leads by example — creating spaces where children can learn, play, and hold onto hope amid uncertainty. As the Deputy Executive Director of The Gaza Children’s Village and a volunteer with Wallah We Can , she dedicates herself to nurturing the next generation and opening...
From Louisiana to Jerusalem 28.09.2025 1:16:29
In Episode 2, we sit down with Lana Ikelan —Co-Educational Director at Kids4Peace , alum of Tomorrow’s Women , and a speaker with Solutions Not Sides . Lana shares her experiences as an East Jerusalemite and reflects on her complex Palestinian identity, navigating a city full of unseen boundaries and hidden challenges. She opens up about her path into activism, the work she does to empower young p...
Season 2: Action! 21.09.2025 41:02
After Season 1 wrapped last November, we didn’t stop. We released a bonus episode in February, hosted four international events, led countless workshops and speaking engagements, recorded three episodes abroad, and sat down with policymakers around the world—all alongside our on-the-ground activism. While we’ve always been Unapologetic: The Third Narrative , we’ve now shortened our name to UTTN...
International Series - MENA Initiative 17.08.2025 43:00
In the final episode of our international mini-series, we spotlight the student perspective through a powerful conversation with Reine and Leo—outgoing and incoming board members of the MENA Initiative at the Graduate Institute in Geneva . They share their experiences, the successes of organizing student-led events, and the realities of balancing activism with academic life—perspectives we believe...
International Series - Bekend maakt Bemind 27.07.2025 59:17
Though this is the second episode of our international series, Amsterdam was actually the very first stop on this trip. At the Joods Museum , we sat down with city council members Sheher Khan (DENK) and Itay Garmy (Volt) — two leaders whose politics and identities often place them on opposite sides: Sheher, a Muslim and pro-Palestinian voice; Itay, a Jewish Israeli representative. And yet, in the...
International Series - B8 of Hope 06.07.2025 1:16:06
We know it's been a while, and we've missed you! So much has happened since our last release, but we have great news to share soon. In the meantime, we’re thrilled to return with the first of three new episodes in our international series! In this episode, Amira sits down with our lovely guest, Mehra Rimer , in the heart of B8 of Hope to get to know both the person and the powerful work behind the...
Bonus Episode (Ceasefire) 26.01.2025 37:46
After a long hiatus, co-hosts Ibrahim and Amira return with a heartfelt bonus episode, sharing their mixed emotions about the recent hostage release and ceasefire agreement. They unpack the bittersweet reality of this moment and share exciting news about their upcoming event in London on February 6th—a fundraiser dedicated to making Season 2 of the podcast a reality. Tune in for an honest conversa...
Season 1 Finale! 10.11.2024 1:38:05
In our season finale, Ibrahim and Amira reflect on a year marked by loss, resilience, and the ongoing struggle in Palestine and Israel. Joined by our Unapologetic producer Evelyn, they take a moment to look back on the stories we've shared, the complexities we've navigated, and the road ahead. This episode marks not just the end of a season, but a pivotal moment of reflection for all of us at the...
Keeping the Legacy Alive 04.10.2024 1:28:29
As the one-year mark since October 7th approaches, we sat down with Yonatan Zeigen—father, social worker, and mediator. Yonatan is the son of the late Vivian Silver, a renowned Israeli peace advocate who dedicated her life to bridging the divide between Israelis and Palestinians. Tragically, Vivian was killed in the Hamas attack on Kibbutz Be'eri last year. In the aftermath of her death, Yonatan h...
The Spiritual Journey of a Palestinian Woman 19.09.2024 58:38
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Miriam Abd El Hay, a remarkable Palestinian woman from Tira. She shares her unique journey of navigating life, identity, and spirituality. Miriam opens up about her multicultural upbringing, the challenges she faced in that complex cultural landscape, and how she has maintained her sense of self through it all. Initially pursuing a career in dentistry, a shift...
It Starts in the Classroom 05.09.2024 1:12:25
In this compelling episode, Ibrahim sits down with Sabrin Masarweh, a Palestinian educator whose commitment to teaching and fostering dialogue in Jewish schools encountered an unexpected and painful challenge. Masarweh's journey took a dramatic turn when she was suspended from a prominent Jewish school in Israel. Her story is not just about one individual but serves as a lens to better understand...
You Asked, Amira Answered 15.08.2024 1:20:31
In this episode, we celebrate Amira's birthday by asking her questions from our audience. Some were personal, while others were more lighthearted to give you a break from our usual conversations. Here's a question for our audience - How has this podcast affected your life? Let us know in the comments. Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrative For more i...
Ibrahim in the Hot Seat! 08.08.2024 1:00:32
In this episode, we celebrate Ibrahim's birthday by asking him questions from our audience. Some were very challenging, and others made him blush. Listen till the end to see which ones did what and let us know your thoughts in the comments! Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrative For more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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