John Gillam
Thinking Class
Thinking Class is a weekly long-form interview podcast exploring the cultural, historical, and civilisational forces shaping England, Britain, and the Western world. Hosted by John Gillam, the show brings together historians, philosophers, theologians, economists, and public intellectuals for conversations that go beyond the news cycle by examining the deep roots of the West's present predicament and asking what genuine recovery might require. Guests have included David Starkey, Lord Jonathan Sumption, Lord Nigel Biggar, Robert Tombs, Peter Hitchens, Lionel Shriver, Roy Baumeister, Kathleen St...
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#135 - Pierre d'Alancaisez - 'I Helped Build The Cult Of Contemporary Art And Then I Walked Away' 09.07.2026 1:05:00
Pierre d’Alancaisez is a writer, curator, and researcher working with the multiple politics of the arts. He is the resident art critic for the English magazine The Critic , and his writing has appeared in outlets such as ArtReview , The Spectator , and Compact . *NOTE: If you downloaded this before 11th July, there are sync issues on the audio, therefore please re-download for a better listening...
#134 - Frank Furedi — The West Is Crushing Democracy In The Name Of Defending It 02.07.2026 1:02:37
Frank is Emeritus Professor of Sociology at the University of Kent and the author of twenty-eight books on the cultural forces shaping Western societies, including his most recent, In Defence of Populism. Frank is also a Senior Fellow at the Mathias Corvinus Collegium in Brussels. In this conversation Frank and I think out loud about: the spirit of populism, why the credentialized class fears it...
#133 - Max Klinger - The British Establishment Re-Racialised Britain And Now It Can't Control What It Created 25.06.2026 1:02:51
Max Klinger is a lawyer and political analyst. He writes at Max Klinger's Newsletter on Substack and his work has appeared in The Spectator . Britain's progressive establishment spent a decade re-racialising public life. It racialised Brexit, policing, and every institution in the name of anti-racism. Now the wider British public has adopted the same lens and applied it in the opposite d...
#132 - Andrew Hussey - France Is Fracturing Along Ethnic And Religious Lines 18.06.2026 57:50
Professor Andrew Hussey OBE is Dean of the University of London Institute in Paris and Director of the Centre for Post-Colonial Studies at the University of London's School of Advanced Study . Born in Liverpool, educated at the University of Manchester and Jean Moulin University Lyon 3 , he is the author of The French Intifada (Faber, 2014), Paris: The Secret History (Penguin, 2006), The Game...
#131 - Gregory Clark - Why Everything The West Believes About Social Mobility Is Wrong 11.06.2026 58:16
Professor Gregory Clark is a British-born economic historian at the University of California, Davis and holds a DNRF Chair at the Danish National Research Foundation and a professor at the Historical Economics and Development Group (HEDG) at the Department of Economics, SDU. Furthermore, he is a Visiting Professor at London School of Economics (LSE) and a Distinguished Professor Emeritus at UC Dav...
#130 - Iain McGilchrist - The Industrialisation Of Man, The Loss Of Faith, And What The Western Mind Has Done To Itself 04.06.2026 1:27:37
Dr Iain McGilchrist is a former Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford , an associate Fellow of Green Templeton College, Oxford , a Fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists , a Consultant Emeritus of the Bethlem and Maudsley Hospital , London, a former research Fellow in neuroimaging at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, and since September 2025 the Chancellor of Ralston College . He lives...
#129 - William Clouston & Firas Modad - The Iran War Is Breaking The Global Economy And Britain Has No Plan 28.05.2026 1:08:55
William Clouston is the leader of the Social Democratic Party (SDP) in the United Kingdom and a member of the advisory board for Restore Britain . Firas Modad is an analyst and political economist focused on the Middle East and global geopolitics. He runs his own consultancy, Modad Geopolitics , helping companies and investors understand the commercial impact of political, economic, and security...
#128 - Lord Tony Sewell - Life At The Bottom In Broken Britain - The White Working Class, The Road Man Culture, And The Collapse Of England 21.05.2026 1:08:59
Lord Tony Sewell CBE is a British educational consultant, author, and life peer. Born in Brixton to Jamaican parents, he trained as a teacher and worked in some of London's most challenging schools, during which time he completed his PhD on black masculinities and schooling at the University of Nottingham . He helped transform education in Hackney as part of the team that established the Lear...
#127 - Jonathan Rose - Literacy Is At Record Lows But It Wasn't Always. What The British Working Class Built And How It Was Destroyed 14.05.2026 1:01:13
Jonathan Rose is William R. Kenan Professor of History at Drew University in New Jersey. He edits the journal Book History and was founding president of the Society for the History of Authorship, Reading, and Publishing . He is the author of several books including The Literary Churchill and The Intellectual Life of the British Working Classes . For the better part of two centuries, the British wo...
#126 - Gary Gerstle - The Iran War Is Ending The Global Economy As We Know It & What Comes Next 08.05.2026 1:11:58
Gary Gerstle is Paul Mellon Professor of American History Emeritus at the University of Cambridge and the author of The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal Order — one of the most clarifying accounts written of how a set of economic assumptions came to dominate Western politics, and how they are now collapsing. He is currently Kluge Chair of American Law and Governance at the Library of Congress , wor...
#125 - Theodore Dalrymple & Rob Henderson - The Ideas That Claimed To Help Britain & America's Poor And Made Everything Worse 01.05.2026 1:15:25
Theodore Dalrymple is the pen name of Dr. Anthony Daniels — physician, psychiatrist, and social diagnostician. He spent years working in the hospitals and prisons of Birmingham before his essays for City Journal established him as the foremost chronicler of what he called the culture of the British underclass. His writing has also appeared in The British Medical Journal, The Times, New Statesman,...
#124 - Michael Lind - Why Britain And America Keep Betraying Their Working Class 24.04.2026 1:28:08
Michael Lind is a political theorist, historian, and one of America's most rigorous independent analysts of class, democracy, and political economy. He is a Professor at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin, a co-founder of the New America think tank, and a visiting professor at the University of Austin . He has taught at Harvard and Johns Hopkin...
#123 - Carl Trueman - The West Killed God. Then It Killed Man. Now Something Darker Is Coming. 17.04.2026 58:08
Dr. Carl R. Trueman is Professor of Biblical and Religious Studies at Grove City College in Grove City, Pennsylvania and currently a visiting Professor at the University of Notre Dame, Indiana. His most recent books are The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Expressive Individualism, Cultural Amnesia, and the Road to Sexual Revolution, (with Bruce Gordon) The Oxford Handbook to Calvin and, and T...
#122 - Richard IV - Britain Stopped Giving Men Heroes And This Is What Fills The Vacuum 10.04.2026 1:04:36
Richard IV is a writer, cultural commentator and men's mentor whose work has helped thousands of men in Britain and across the West understand what has gone wrong and what can still be recovered. In this episode of Thinking Class, John Gillam speaks with Richard about the invisible order that once gave men a path through life — the initiatory traditions, the moral codes, the religious inherit...
#121 - Kathleen Stock - The West Is Offering Death As A Solution — Do Not Go Gentle 03.04.2026 59:01
Kathleen Stock is a Contributing Editor to UnHerd , a philosopher, author of Material Girls and Do Not Go Gentle , and one of the most forensically precise thinkers in British public life. A bill is moving through the British Parliament right now that would allow doctors to help their patients die. Its proponents call it assisted dying. Its opponents call it assisted suicide. In Canada, five perce...
#120 - Lord Nigel Biggar & Tirthankar Roy: Britain's Empire Was Not What You Were Taught — An Indian Historian Has The Evidence 27.03.2026 1:05:07
For decades, the British Empire in India has been reduced to a simple moral claim: that it was an extractive, exploitative system which left only damage behind. But is that really the full story? In this episode of Thinking Class , John Gillam is joined by Lord Nigel Biggar and Professor Tirthankar Roy to examine what the British Empire — and the East India Company before it — actually did in Indi...
#119 - John Waters - Ireland's Moral Revolution And The Crisis Of Authority 13.03.2026 1:06:19
John Waters is an Irish journalist, author, and columnist known for his work with Hot Press , The Irish Times , and The Irish Independent . He has written on social and political issues, specialising in father's rights and cultural critiques. Ireland changed faster than almost any country in the West. The question now is whether the Irish still recognise the nation they live in. In this epis...
#118 - Michael Reiners - The Laws That Quietly Abolished England: Blair's Constitutional Settlement And What Can Be Done About It 06.03.2026 1:04:09
Michael Reiners is a writer, lawyer, and architectural historian. Michael is the founder of the Reiners Project , which publishes essays, draft legislation and commentary on English constitutional law and the art and architectural landscape. Britain’s constitutional settlement has changed more in the last few decades than most people realise — and the consequences now reach into identity, speech,...
#117 - Lord Nigel Biggar - The New Dark Age: How Britain's Institutions Became Afraid Of The Truth 27.02.2026 58:50
Lord Nigel Biggar is an Anglican priest, theologian, and moral philosopher, a member of the House of Lords, and Professor Emeritus of Moral Theology at the University of Oxford. His most recent books are The New Dark Age: Why Liberals Must Win The Culture War, Colonialism: A Moral Reckoning (2023), What’s Wrong with Rights? , In Defence of War , and Between Kin and Cosmopolis: An Ethic of the Nat...
#116 - Lionel Shriver - A Better Life? Immigration, Demography, and Belonging In The West 20.02.2026 1:02:00
Lionel Shriver is a novelist and columnist at The Spectator, and the author of We Need to Talk About Kevin, Mania, and A Better Life among many other books. Lionel Shriver returns to Thinking Class to discuss mass immigration in the West—not as an abstract moral debate, but as a lived experience reshaping belonging, institutions, and politics. We start with Lionel’s new novel A Better Life, which...
#115 - Lord Jonathan Sumption - Can Democracy Survive the Britain We’re Becoming? 13.02.2026 58:02
Lord Jonathan Sumption is a British judge and historian, who served as a Supreme Court Justice from 2012 – 2018. He is the author of The Challenges of Democracy And The Rule Of Law , the Sunday Times bestseller Trials of the State , Law in a Time of Crisis , and Divided Houses , which won the 2009 Wolfson History Prize. Across Britain and the wider West democratic decision-making is increasingly b...
#114 - Dr Carrie Gress - How Feminism Became the West’s New Moral Authority 06.02.2026 1:00:20
Dr Carrie Gress has a doctorate in philosophy from the Catholic University of America and is the editor at the online women’s magazine Theology of Home . Carrie’s work has appeared in numerous publications, including National Review, Daily Caller, Daily Wire, First Things, Newsweek, The American Spectator, The Catholic Thing, The Federalist, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Examiner. Sh...
#113 - Bijan Omrani & Alka Sehgal-Cuthbert - Britain’s Cultural Inheritance Is Being Squandered And We’re Living With the Consequences 30.01.2026 1:07:31
Dr. Bijan Omrani is a classicist, historian, and Oxford-educated barrister. His research explores questions of religious history and cultural identity, spanning from ancient Roman Greece to Afghanistan and the Silk Road. He has taught Classics at Eton College and Westminster School, is a former editor of Asian Affairs, and currently serves as a Research Fellow at the University of Exeter. He is al...
#112 - Firas Modad - Britain Is Losing Control At Home and Abroad: Demographics, Sovereignty, And Power 23.01.2026 1:21:30
Firas Modad is an analyst and political economist focused on the Middle East and global geopolitics. He runs his own consultancy, Modad Geopolitics , helping companies and investors understand the commercial impact of political, economic, and security risks they face. Firas Modad is a host on Podcast of the LotusEaters. Firas examines how Britain’s security is being quietly undermined at home and...
#111 - Prof. Azar Gat - Why Ethnicity Is Inescapably Political And Nationalism Endures: Lessons For Britain & The West 16.01.2026 1:07:27
Professor Azar Gat, one of the world’s leading scholars of nationalism, war, and political identity. Professor Gat is Professor Emeritus at Tel Aviv University and the author of several major works on conflict and political order, including War in Human Civilization and, most notably for this conversation, Nations: The Long History and Deep Roots of Political Ethnicity and Nationalism . In that bo...
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