The Real Future

My guest today is Host, MC, Dancer, and Las Vegas community voice M.P. Art. If you want to know what is happening in Las Vegas, you want to follow Art and the There’s Nothing To Do In Vegas media channels he curates with Coco Jenkins. I met Art in L.A. where he often comes out to host dance events and participate in the community. Since then I’ve been to several events he’s MC’d in Vegas, includin...

This is the second half of Episode 24 with Dread. This episode was recorded in Las Vegas and it’s the first I’ve recorded outside of my Los Angeles studio. Dread is part of the CCFFK Krump fam, a member of the Outlaws of Havoc freestyle crew, and is one of his generation’s best Krumpers. He is one of the best Krumpers on the planet, period, and in case there was any doubt, on May 9 2026 he took th...

My guest today is Dread, aka Ultra, aka Violent Crush. Dread is part of the CCFFK Krump fam, a member of the Outlaws of Havoc freestyle crew, and is one of his generation’s best Krumpers. He is one of the best Krumpers on the planet, period, and in case there was any doubt, on May 9 2026 he took the crown at the  KCS Kill Krump battle in Las Vegas.  We met several years ago in Los Angeles at Battl...

My guest today is Seji Gaerlan. Seji is a founding member of the Syde Project dance crew and the Producer of the Orange County based Bridge The Gap jams. I’ve photographed two of these events and was impressed by the spirit and quality of the jams. I invited him in to ask about his personal story and the motivation behind Bridge The Gap. He’s a really thoughtful observer of the Southern California...

My guest today is Cassandra Tsolis. I first asked Cassie about being a guest last summer at Unimate 2025.  We were talking and she said she’d only been dancing for 6 years. I had to know more! How did she become such an explosive krumper in such a short period of time? We get into that story and how it relates to her writing a book and the development her somatic therapy program called Echo Moveme...

My guest today is Ernesto Galarza aka Precise. Precise is the Artistic Director for Versa-Style Legacy, and the Digital Content and Marketing Director for Versa-Style Dance Co. He’s also a member of the Soulbotics crew and one of L.A.’s best known dancers.  I’ve photographed him going back to 2017 and it was great to sit down and learn about his background. And because he has been a part of Versa-...

I brought my Nord drum synthesizer to Unimate, the international robot and animation dance convention, for a series and drum and dance improvisations. If you are listening to an audio-only platform I really encourage you to change it up watch this on YouTube or Spotify - I’ll put a link in the show notes. This music and movement exchange features Australian animation and waving dancer Mitchell Tro...

I started this podcast to share the stories, history, and styles behind street dance culture. However, my guest today is visual artist and children’s book author Fuzz Garden. I was contacted by the public relations wing of pH Collective, a socially-conscious women-owned creative agency that is working with United Artists San Pedro, the organization that funded the soon-to-be released Mimi and The...

My guest today is James Jimenez aka Animated J. I’ve always admired J for his category-defying style of movement, so I was eager to ask him about the evolution of his dance. We talk about his beginning steps in New York, to his developmental years in Allentown PA, to the present in L.A.. He’s also the first interviewer that I’ve interviewed, and we talked about the motivation behind his podcast Cr...

My guest today is Lily Frias. The dance world– a lot of it, at least–knows Lily as one third of the street styles-based professional dance crew Femme Fatale. With that trio, and as an individual artist, Lily’s CV includes work with Cirque du Soleil, Marc Jacobs, and Red Bull, and she’s appeared on So You Think You Can Dance and America’s Best Dance Crew. We talk about Femme Fatale’s story–how 3 wo...

My guest today is Boogie Frantick. Born and raised in L.A., Frantick is an original member of the GR818ers, and also represents the Funny Bones and Mighty Zulu Kings crews. His foundation is popping, and his trademark style has made him a sought-after dancer including work with Snoop Dogg, Talib Kweli, and Egyptian Lover, and appearances on Dancing With The Stars, So You Think You Can Dance, and t...

I paused the conversations for a couple of months because my studio is just too damn hot in the middle of summer, but fall is now in full swing and I’m back in action! My guest today is Lisa Bauford, aka L-Boogie. L-Boogie is a dancer, MC, educator, and the creative force behind the apparel brand Blame Boogie. She’s also the type of person who, whenever and wherever you might meet, makes you feel...

I brought my Nord drum synthesizer to Unimate 2025, the weeklong international convention for robot and animation dance, for a series and drum and dance improvisations This particular music and movement exchange features the amazing French street performer Kévin Théagène.  Kevin has come to L.A. pretty regularly in recent years, and I’m always happy to see him. He is a talented dancer and saxophon...

This Quick Hit episode is part of a series of drum and dance improvisations I recorded at Unimate 2025. I brought my drum synthesizer to the weeklong international convention focused on robot and animation dance. This music and movement exchange features Clocks, one of the world’s premier animation dancers, and one of the most amazing performers to come out of the street dance universe. He was als...

I brought my Nord drum synthesizer to Unimate 2025, the weeklong international convention for robot and animation dance, for a series and drum and dance improvisations This music and movement exchange features Tiger Lily, a versatile and talented dancer who has experienced incredible artistic growth since moving to L.A. She is also part of the Unimate production team. Enjoy! CREDITS Production, Wr...

My guest today is dancer, choreographer, and model G’bari Gilliam, aka GQ . G’bari is one of the most talented dancers I’ve ever seen, and he absolutely lights up a room whenever he takes the stage. This is why he’s always in demand and has an impressive list of credits that includes work with Billy Porter, Bad Bunny, Disney, and Tyler Perry. I was really excited that he found the time to stop in...

In this Quick Hit short-form episode I explain why I photograph street dance. During my Episode 12 conversation, BeastBoi asked me how I got connected to the dance community. This gave me an opportunity to answer that question and to thoroughly explain the motivation behind my work.

This episode is the start of a new short-form series I’m calling Quick Hits. It's a drum and dance improvisation similar to those that conclude most of The Real Future conversations. These non-verbal exchanges are popular, so I decided to bring my drum synthesizer to Unimate, a weeklong international convention focused on robot and animation dance styles. Thank You to Jaja Vankova and Slim Boo...

My guest today is Sheopatra Jones, aka She Street aka She. I am really excited to share this conversation, and the drum/dance improvisation that follows. She has been mentioned by multiple guests as an influence and mentor, and following these connections is what this podcast is all about.  As a dancer, videographer, director, and choreographer, She Street has worked with a long list of artists in...

My guest today is dancer and visual artist Jon Jimenez, aka Jon Gifted. As a dancer, Jon is a member of the pioneering Wave Gang, the  Newz Fam trump family , and the Rock Solid crew out of Dallas. He also works behind the scenes as a videographer and film maker. Gifted has a welcoming personality and a calm presence, and beneath all of that is someone intensely dedicated to his craft. When you se...

My guest today is Brandon Juezan, aka BeastBoi . Brandon is the Creative Director of Touring and Events for Versa-Style Dance Co., a Hip Hop dance instructor for Steezy Studio , and a member of the international Krump family Beast Camp. This is a unique episode. Before our conversation, I took a dance lesson with Beastboi and in the intro you will see some footage of my attempts at hip hop foundat...

My guest today is Randi Freitas aka Rascal Randi. Randi is best known as a B-girl but she’s built a career that goes beyond breaking.  She’s a choreographer whose work has been on prominent stages including the Lincoln Center. As an educator, Randi developed Omega Flow, a floorwork training method, and launched Dancers U, an artist education program that provides creative space along with an entre...

My guest today is Malik Bannister aka Gvmby. Gumby is a professional dancer, fluent in multiple styles with a natural gift for showmanship. He’s also a creative director for film, and a a dance educator, including a role as a teaching artist with Heidi Duckler dance. Malik brought a lot of energy to the studio–and an extra set of bunny ears–for our conversation that touched on everything from his...

My guest today is Jaylin Sanders. Jaylin moved to LA from Nashville in 2021 to both attend college and pursue his dance career. He had been working as a professional dancer since the age of 15, has a level-headed approach to the entertainment industry that belies his years. He’s worked with Dolly Parton, Wayne Brady, and got a lot of exposure in the 18th season of So You Think You Can Dance when h...

My guest today is Saleh Simpson aka Robozilla . Since moving to L.A. in the middle of pandemic lockdowns, he’s been winning battles all over California and his reputation has really started to grow, as evidenced by his travels to Paris and Singapore. Choreographers are catching on as well, leading to recent work with Snoop Dog and Bad Bunny. We had a wide-ranging conversation including a story abo...