The Media Copilot
The Media Copilot
Hosted by journalist Pete Pachal, The Media Copilot is a weekly conversation with smart people on how AI is changing media, journalism, and the news.
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How People Inc. Turned Bot Blocking Into a Business, With Jonathan Roberts 15.10.2026 51:24
Blocking the bots is step one. People Inc.'s Jonathan Roberts on what comes next: the companies reselling publisher content, who sets the price, and why AI is spending its money in the wrong place. Pete Pachal talks with Jonathan Roberts, chief innovation officer at People Inc. (People, InStyle, Investopedia), about blocking every bot by default and allowing 38 through, the disguises blocked bots...
What Publishers Should Get From AI Besides Money, With Bombora's Jaime Schultheis 01.10.2026 44:34
When AI answers the question, publishers lose more than the click. Bombora's Jaime Schultheis on why AI referrals convert, why Google is a shaky foundation, and what AI companies should give publishers besides a check. Pete Pachal talks with Jaime Schultheis, head of global data partnerships at Bombora, about what Bombora's publisher data shows (steeper referral declines, more bots, niche B2B titl...
What 99 AI Licensing Deals Reveal About the Future of Publishing, With Rob Kelly 24.09.2026 43:03
Rob Kelly tracks 99 AI licensing deals. What publishers are really selling now, and why OpenAI may settle with the Times. Kelly, the creator and host of Media & the Machine, keeps a spreadsheet of 99 AI content licensing deals, from The New York Times' little-discussed $100 million Google arrangement to Yelp's new deal with OpenAI. He ran the content licensing business at CMP Media, so he know...
Can Publishers Sell Ads to Bots? Oasy's Choy Travers Is Betting On It 17.09.2026 37:17
Bot traffic has already passed human traffic on the web. Oasy co-founder Choy Travers thinks publishers should stop blocking the bots and start selling them ads. Pete Pachal talks with Choy Travers, co-founder of Amsterdam-based Oasy, about a new kind of advertising: sponsored content served to AI crawlers on a publisher's site, on the bet that the AI will use it when answering a user's question....
What TIME Learned From a Month of Selling Ads to Bots, With COO Mark Howard 10.09.2026 52:05
Bot traffic passed human traffic on the web this year. TIME decided to sell the bots ads. One month in, COO Mark Howard explains what advertisers are buying, why the AI seems to remember what it scrapes, and what Perplexity got wrong. Pete Pachal talks with Mark Howard, chief operating officer of TIME, about agent ads: brand-verified facts, labeled as sponsored, placed on the machine-readable vers...
Who Owns Your Expertise in the Age of AI? Onix Wants to Give It Back to You 27.08.2026 37:23
On this episode of The Media Copilot , Pete Pachal sits down with Onix co-founders David Bennahum and Nicholas Nadeau to explore a very different model for AI: one where experts own specialized AI systems built around their knowledge, voice, judgment and point of view. They discuss why smaller, domain-specific models may sometimes outperform general-purpose AI, how Onix incorporates knowledge that...
The future of AI content licensing, featuring Michael Ellis 13.08.2026 45:55
As AI reshapes the internet, the future of journalism may depend on how publishers license, distribute, and protect their content. On this episode of The Media Copilot , host Pete Pachal sits down with Michael Ellis , President of Newstex, to explore one of the most important and least understood battlegrounds in artificial intelligence: content licensing. As AI companies race to build smarter mod...
AI won't replace Creators. It will replace the work they hate. 08.08.2026 40:19
What if the future of AI in media isn't replacing storytellers, but giving them better tools to tell better stories? This episode is sponsored by Descript.com In this episode of The Media Copilot , host Pete Pachal sits down with Laura Burkhauser , CEO of Descript, to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping media production without sacrificing creativity, editorial judgment, or human st...
When bots become the audience 23.07.2026 45:19
Bots now make up about half of all web traffic. Are they a threat to block or an audience to win? For most of the web's history, the deal was simple. Search engines pointed people to websites, and those visits paid for the content through advertising and subscriptions. AI is rewriting that arrangement, and the clearest place to see it is in who, or what, is showing up at the door. Akamai says it...
AI didn’t kill Local News. Could it actually save it? 09.07.2026 41:04
Local journalism has spent the last two decades fighting for survival. First came the internet. Then Craigslist. Then Google and social media. Advertising disappeared, newsrooms shrank, and communities across the country became news deserts. Now comes AI. For many journalists and publishers, artificial intelligence feels like the next existential threat...a technology capable of flooding the inter...
The future of journalism is personal: How The Journal is building AI for readers, not robots 25.06.2026 42:57
As AI transforms the way news is created and consumed, The Wall Street Journal is reimagining storytelling around trust, personalization, and audience experience. This episode is sponsored by: Adobe Acrobat This week on The Media Copilot , Pete Pachal sits down with Taneth Evans , Head of Digital at The Wall Street Journal , to explore how one of the world's leading news organizations is navigatin...
AI's reality check: Why Sharon Goldman is looking beyond the hype 18.06.2026 46:10
This episode is sponsored by: Adobe Acrobat This week on The Media Copilot , Pete Pachal sits down with veteran AI journalist and former Fortune reporter Sharon Goldman to discuss the growing disconnect between AI's promise and public perception. As Sharon launches her new Substack, Ground Level AI , she shares why she's shifting her focus away from model releases and Silicon Valley headlines to e...
Tech companies are becoming Media companies. What happens next? 12.06.2026 37:39
As AI transforms how people discover information, the relationship between technology, media, and audience trust is evolving rapidly. This episode is sponsored by: Adobe Acrobat What happens when technology companies stop advertising in media and start owning it? In this episode of The Media Copilot podcast, host Pete Pachal speaks with Jonathan Hunt , VP of Media & Content at HubSpot and Head...
Local news, AI, and the fight for accountability 04.06.2026 37:35
How veteran editor Rick Hirsch sees AI helping journalists do more with less, while protecting the trust that investigative reporting depends on. This episode is sponsored by: Adobe Acrobat What happens when artificial intelligence meets one of journalism's most important missions: holding power accountable? In this episode of The Media Copilot podcast, host Pete Pachal speaks with Rick Hirsch , d...
The Scraper Economy is already here. Publishers just aren’t getting paid. 28.05.2026 43:25
As AI systems increasingly rely on publisher content to answer questions, a new marketplace for information has quietly emerged. The problem? Publishers are barely part of it. This episode is sponsored by: Adobe Acrobat On this episode of The Media Copilot podcast, host Pete Pachal sits down with Jonathan Woahn to zero in on a part of the AI content ecosystem that’s just out of sight. The conversa...
AI won’t save Local News. But it might reinvent it. 14.05.2026 46:32
Local journalism is collapsing under old business models. The next version may be more dependent on AI than most newsrooms are ready to admit. By The Copilot Can AI help rebuild local journalism before the economics of the industry completely break? Axios does. On this episode of The Media Copilot podcast, Pete Pachal speaks to Allison Murphy , COO of Axios , to explore how Axios Local is experim...
How AI is changing B2B media 24.04.2026 33:37
In a world of fewer clicks and higher stakes, B2B media is being rebuilt around outcomes, not impressions. The media industry has spent years optimizing for clicks, traffic, and scale. But in B2B, the stakes are different. A single decision can involve millions of dollars and require input from 5 to 15 stakeholders. That changes everything about how content is created, distributed, and measured. A...
The Real Battle in AI Isn’t Capability. It’s Trust. 08.04.2026 36:41
Why the future of generative media may hinge on who owns the data and who gets paid for it. Generative AI can now create high-quality images and videos in seconds. But as the technology accelerates, a more fundamental question is emerging: Can AI-generated media ever be trusted at scale? In this episode of The Media Copilot , Pete Pachal speaks with Dr. Yair Adato , founder and CEO of Bria , about...
Can You Certify Good AI use? This Organization Thinks So 26.03.2026 46:23
As AI reshapes journalism and media, Richard Murphy of the Alliance for Audited Media explains why the industry needs actual standards. AI is no longer experimental in media. It is operational. From drafting articles to generating images to influencing distribution, artificial intelligence is now embedded across the entire content pipeline in many organizations. But as adoption accelerates, trust...
When AI changes discovery, who still gets paid? 19.03.2026 49:56
AI is reshaping how people search, shop, and consume information and that shift is starting to challenge the business models that have supported media for decades. In this episode of The Media Copilot , host Pete Pachal sits down with Colin Jeavons, Founder and Chairman of Nomix Group, to explore what happens when AI becomes the middle layer between publishers and their audiences. From the collaps...
Search is Changing Fast. Is Your Brand Ready for the Answer Engine Era? 12.03.2026 46:39
Search is changing fast, and AI is at the center of it. Search is no longer just about blue links and ranking on Google. More and more, people are getting their answers directly from AI tools like ChatGPT, Google AI Overviews, and other answer engines that summarize information, pull citations, and decide what gets surfaced in real time. That means visibility is changing, and so is the value of co...
Building the Newsroom AI Playbook Without Turning Journalism into Slop 05.03.2026 50:42
AI is rapidly becoming part of how news is produced, distributed, and discovered. But what does that actually look like inside a newsroom? In this episode of The Media Copilot , host Pete Pachal speaks with Gina Chua , Executive Editor at Large at Semafor and Executive Director of the Tow-Knight Center for Journalism Futures at the CUNY Graduate School of Journalism. Chua shares how Semafor is exp...
She’s Building the AI Agent That Could Replace Your News Feed 26.02.2026 43:21
What if instead of scrolling headlines, you had a personal intelligence agent that understood what matters to you and delivered only signal, not noise? In this episode of The Media Copilot , Pete Pachal talks with Eva Cicinyte , co-founder and CEO of Gnomi , an AI-powered real-time news agent designed to synthesize global information into actionable insight. The goal isn’t summaries or more feeds....
Fake News at Machine Speed: Inside AI’s Impact on Media Trust 19.02.2026 51:21
Poynter’s Alex Mahadevan explains how newsrooms can use AI without losing the fundamentals of verification, context, and accountability. By The Copilot AI is already embedded in how people discover and consume news, from search to chat interfaces to automated summaries. So the question is no longer whether journalism will be shaped by AI. It’s how newsrooms maintain trust while experimenting respo...
AI, and copyright: How media can decide between litigation or negotiation 05.02.2026 50:50
Lawsuits set public rules; contracts set private ones. A media attorney on how leverage, timing, and context decide the path. In this episode, Pete Pachal sits down with corporate and transactional attorney Jason Henderson , a streaming and licensing specialist who also happens to be a creative with real skin in the game. Jason breaks down why the popular “AI learns like humans” analogy only goes...
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