That Relationship Show

Psychologist Clare Rosomon joins us to discuss healing after relationship loss. Her new book uses an attachment lens to explore and bring healing from anger, pain and grief.

Dr. Laurie Watson takes a break from co-hosting the popular podcast Foreplay to talk with us about the intersection of sexual and emotional connection for couples. With her frank and engaging style, she shares what she's learned over three decades to help build empathy even for those couples who feel miles apart when talking about sex.

Psychologist, author and religious trauma expert Marlene Winell joins us to discuss the impact of fundamentalist religiosity on individuals and relationships. She offers hope for healing and finding joy in this life.

Internationally renowned EMDR trainer and therapist Deany Laliotis, LICSW joins Deb & Nao to talk about the powerful healing that EMDR can provide. We talk about the intersection of EMDR and EFT, the importance of attachment and the value of paying it forward.

Drs. Nancy & Paul Aiken share their programs designed to help repair and strengthen the bonds between parents and kids. With warmth & humor, they share clips from an actual family, offering hope for anyone struggling to reach their teen.

Deb & Nao discuss what makes a relationship healthy, unhealthy or toxic. Whether it's a romantic, friendship or parent/adult child duo, they offer tips for knowing when it's time to to dig in and work harder, set boundaries or just say "goodbye."

Psychologist and sexuality expert Dr Aline Zoldbrod joins us to explain why mercy sex should be kicked to the curb, how body mapping can help us and our partner find what we like, and why setting a date for sex can keep us connected even through the toughest of times.

EFT Trainer and Psychologist Sharon Chatkupt Lee joins us to talk about the world we find ourselves in--as individuals, couples, and EFT therapists struggling to be better and do better. She offers suggestions for navigating our way in these challenging times.

EFT Trainer and author Dr. Paul Guillory joins us to discuss his new book: EFT With African American Couples: Love Heals . He explains the many factors that go into racial identity, and how they can leave us "primed for negative" or more flexible. He emphasizes the importance of practicing cultural humility.

Dr. Nicole Kosanke, researcher and Director of Family Services at The Center for Motivation and Change joins us to discuss cutting edge research on the treatment of addiction. She shares what she's learned about how brains change, and offers help for family members who want to be supportive yet still take care of themselves.

Sexologist, author, educator and therapist Dr. Lexx Brown-James joins us for a lively discussion about sex, identity and healing from sexual shame to get back to pleasure in our physical relationships.

Dating Coach extraordinaire Cora Boyd joins us to offer tips on everything from putting your authentic foot forward on dating apps to the art of flirting. Based on her years as a matchmaker and thousands of interviews, she offers a fun and hopeful lens to those who are looking for a great relationship or just a great date.

Therapist, author and researcher Deirdre Fay joins us to offer practical advice for helping yourself through life's most difficult and painful moments. With decades of experience she guides us with tangible tips to organize our minds, bodies and hearts, and move more securely in the world--no matter what comes our way.

EFT Trainer Dr. Lisa Palmer-Olsen shares her expertise in helping couples who want to heal after a betrayal. She names some blocks to repair, and explains how she learned the importance of therapist self-awareness in developing her remarkable skills.

Stanford Professor & Forgiveness researcher Fred Luskin joins us to offer practical tips for achieving peace of mind after we've been deeply wounded. From Monica Lewinsky to Northern Ireland, he shares his own journey that led to creating the most comprehensive research project on the process of forgiveness.

For couples who have experienced breaches of trust or other injuries, repair, reconciliation and forgiveness can seem out of reach. Psychologist and EFT Trainer Dr. Sam Jinich joins Deb & Nao to offer pathways to healing, even when it means leaving a relationship.

Reproductive Psychologist Dr. Janet Jaffe joins Deb & Nao to talk about the tremendous impact that miscarriages and infertility have on couples. She explains the power of our reproductive stories, and offers ideas for meaning making and support during what for many couples is the most difficult issue they have ever faced together.

We welcome Workplace Success Group CEO Karen Hinds and professor of psychology Dr. Feion Villodas to talk about the two Americas. From overt to implicit racism, and the positions of privilege that have rendered them invisible to many, we explore what well-meaning folks in the majority can do to affect change.

Renowned EFT Trainer Dr. Leanne Campbell joins us to explain how Emotionally Focused Individual Therapy helps build resilience and increase self-awareness and self-compassion. With her warmth & wisdom, she helps us see the enormous impact these things have on our relationships.

Attachment figures are those we turn to for comfort and support; including family members, mentors and spiritual or religious notables. But they can be found in other places as well. EFT therapist Monica McDonald describes how an introduction to the music of Prince in childhood led to his place as her cherished Attachment figure, even after his death.  

Having an emotionally immature parent or partner can wreak havoc on our sense of self-yet we are often unaware of what exactly is causing our pain in these relationships. Psychologist and ground-breaking author Dr. Lindsay Gibson joins us for an illuminating and clarifying conversation on EI. 

Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT joins Deb & Nao for a fascinating mix of personal stories and neuroscience. She helps us understand how the strategies we develop as infants continue to serve us throughout our lives---and how we can change the bits that are no longer helping.

When you add social media to the list of dopamine-inducing options that beckon us, it's hard to find anyone who hasn't experienced the pull of addiction. Therapist and film producer Hope Payson, LICSW joins us to unpack the complexities of addiction, and offers a path to recovery through a modern lens.

In this lively conversation, Dr. Suzanne Iasenza explains why we shouldn't let a theory developed by researchers in 1957 define our sexuality today. She offers hope to couples who want to transform their sexual relationships whilst working on or maintaining their emotional connection. 

Award winning filmmaker Bao Nguyen joins us to talk about his inspiration for the Bruce Lee biopic Be Water. From his own experience as the child of Vietnamese refugees to the blatant racism of the 1960's, Bao helps us understand the many factors that contribute to our views of self and others. Deb and Nao explain the impact this has on our relationships, and how awareness can help us avoid the ne...