So...What Else?

Shannon Popkin is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and host of the Live Like It’s True podcast. Shannon has spent years helping people engage Scripture in practical ways, and her latest work explores one of the habits that quietly damages our relationships more than we realize: judgment. In this conversation, we talk about why judgment feels so unavoidable. Why do we feel judged so often? Why ar...

Kaitlin opens up about having a full-blown menty B, the joys (and horrors) of potty training, and addresses the hairstylist haters that weighed in on last week's SWEpisode. Meanwhile, Scott learns what might be the most shocking fact he's ever discovered about his own wife (and somehow this information has never come up before?). Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram...

Allison Byxbe is a writer, speaker, and advocate for honest conversations about grief, healing, and faith in the midst of life’s hardest realities. Allison shares her story of walking through profound loss and heartbreak, including her sister’s stillbirth, her own miscarriage, a difficult genetic diagnosis for her son, and seasons of struggle within her marriage. She opens up about the questions,...

Emily and Matt are vindicated about the existance of water table fountains. Is Ariana Grande okay? Is it okay for society to be commenting on women’s bodies if they’re underweight? The 1 tillion different terms for women’s haircuts and styles that hairstylists are absolutely making up. How long is too long to wear an item of clothing before deciding to return it? Kaitlin has a ruin with a libraria...

Hanna Seymour is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and a passionate advocate for helping people experience God in everyday life. Hanna encourages women to let go of perfectionism and embrace simple, sustainable rhythms that deepen their relationship with Jesus. In this conversation, we talk about why so many Christians carry shame around the idea of having a “quiet time” and how that shame can ac...

Kaitlin’s relationship with ChatGPT has become her greatest source of encouragement. Matt and Emily don’t quite understand the workings of a child’s water table toy. Kaitlin is experiencing a slight identity crisis as she’s starting to transition out of the early years of motherhood. Scott and Kaitlin go to their nephew’s wedding in Minnesota..congrats Grant and Lily! New Jersey’s fast-paced hustl...

Erica Ligenza Gwynn is an author, speaker, and writer of That’s Just Not True: How to Replace the Lies You Didn’t Know You Believed with God’s Unchanging Truth. In this conversation, Erica unpacks the cultural lies that often disguise themselves as empowerment but quietly leave us exhausted, anxious, and stuck. We dive into phrases we hear all the time—“God won’t give me more than I can handle,” “...

Happy Mother’s Day SWEople! OLIPOP is a life changer. Caroline helps Kaitlin navigate a grocery store. Is Taco Bell like sort of healthy now? Fast food is staring to grow on Kaitlin. Scott has exactly no functioning legs, oh and may also have a parasite. Emily is the slowest walker of all time. Kaitlin decides to be the fun parent for a night. Parenting when your spouse is traveling is hard. For t...

Jennifer Dukes Lee is an author, speaker, and expert in helping people create rhythms that actually work in real life, not just in theory. In this episode, Jennifer makes the bold claim that everyone is a morning person, you just haven’t discovered your style yet. We talk about identifying your unique “archetype” and how understanding it can completely change the way you start your day. She also b...

Scott has not one, but two, pulled hamstrings. Norah walks for the first time, but like sort of. The saga of Donald The Cat continues. Kaitlin's Spotify is unhinged. If men have good personalities but aren’t attractive women are still attracted to them, but the same isn’t necessarily true for women. Kaitlin's worst nightmare comes true at the library. Matt tries to make an intelluctual point, but...

It's an Elliotts only episoooddeeeee! Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Scott hates backwards hats and potentially gets questionable LASIK surgery. Kaitlin overcomes an addiction to allergy medication. Emily and Kaitlin double down on their moon landing skepticism, which spirals into flat earth theories and, somehow, glitter company conspiracies. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com...

Kaitlin finds her perfect pair of sunglasses despite everyone else's opinion. Minivans are elite. Keanu Reeves might be the nicest human alive. We casually dip our toes into conspiracy theories. Does worship music actually manipulate your emotions? Everyone shares their green flags (for once, some positive self-talk). Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitling...

Britt Frank is a licensed neuropsychotherapist, speaker, and author known for making complex mental health concepts actually make sense. Through her work, Britt helps people understand their minds and nervous systems in a way that’s practical, empowering, and free of shame. In this episode, we cover a lot of ground. Britt reframes anxiety as a potential superpower, breaks down how trauma shapes us...

Emily finds months’ worth of missing lip products buried deep in the couch. Mysterious glowing orbs set off the alarms at Matt’s work, completely derail Kaitlin’s week, and leave the entire SWE team questioning reality (ghosts? government? the afterlife? all of the above?). Kaitlin’s face-brushing journey fails, Matt and Emily’s dishwasher and oven both die, and  the comforting reality that all of...

Dr. Mikala Albertson is a board-certified family practice physician, author, and passionate advocate for women’s health. She’s known for helping women care for the imperfect bodies we actually live in while navigating the ordinary lives we’re actually living. In her new book, Everything I Wish I Could Tell You About Midlife: A Woman’s Guide to Health in the Body You Actually Have, Mikala shares bo...

Kaitlin turns 37. Parker turns 3. Kaitlin goes to the spa and her foot falls off. She’s also considering a mushroom coffee journey and would like reviews before committing. Lifetime Fitness is incredible. Kaitlin starts doing Peloton workouts. Scott starts working out...and is considering snowboarding for the first time in forever. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagr...

Natalie Runion is the founder of Raised to Stay, author, worship leader, and pastor’s kid turned pastor. After watching people she loved walk away from the church, Natalie began writing about her own wrestling with faith and church hurt. What started as personal reflection grew into a global community committed to staying with Jesus while pursuing healing and restoration within the Church. In this...

Kaitlin and Scott, Emily and Matt share their couple origin stories in honor of Valentine's Day. It’s v cute. We unpack the Olympic cheater. Lindsey Vonn (is not the Olympic cheater). The human grass during Bad Bunny’s halftime show. Matt turns another year older. We realize we now relate more to the parents of professional athletes than the athletes themselves. Organized sports? Apparently bad no...

The one, the only, Ginna Claire Mason Moffet joins the pod this week. Ginna Claire is a dear friend and actress. You may know her as Glinda from Broadway's Wicked or as a Hallmark movie favorite. We talk about how her early love of performing shaped the path that led her to Broadway, and what it’s like stepping into such an iconic role. She also shares behind-the-scenes insight from her work in Ha...

Kaitlin gets reprimanded by a referee. Lindsey Vonn is so old. A new "fan" requests more bare feet on the pod. Scott buys a smart humidifier to heal his cracked lips in the morning. We debate cuss vs. curse vs. swear. Kaitlin’s miraculous dermatologist appointment. RIP Catherine O'Hara...an icon.  Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://...

Hannah and Caroline make their B-Team on-camera debut and recap their harrowing journey to recover Caroline's repossessed (cough...stolen...cough) car. Also, Scott and Kaitlin are on a home redecorating adventure and Caroline is launching a Twitch account. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Scott ruins Kaitlin’s post Christmas joy by trying to be helpful. Emily thinks she’s gotten “lenient” about her home standards. Kaitlin is on a fluoride-free journey, but probably not for the reasons you think. Scott survives a life-altering procedure while Kaitlin heroically assumes the role of “caretaker” and makes sure everyone knows it. Jag-wire. Kaitlin and Scott narrowly miss a pileup caused...

Kaitlin and Scott chat alone this week and they absolutely, 100%, definitely do not talk about New Year’s resolutions. It’s no secret, Kaitlin hates New Year’s resolutions…she publicly denounces them. So they most definitely do not come up....or do they? Welcome to 2026 SWEople! Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott....

Catherine Renfro is an author, pastor’s wife, mom, and the National Director of Women’s Evangelism at the North American Mission Board. Catherine is the author of Hope, Hurt, and Healing: Experiencing Jesus in the Wake of Suicide, a book born out of profound loss. Catherine shares the story of losing her brother to suicide and invites us into the aftermath—the grief and the questions she wrestled...