Say This Not That

This episode dives deep into the unconventional journey of Yael Gavish, a former technologist and startup leader who walked away from a “dream” career in tech to pursue a life rooted in creativity and purpose. After years working in high-powered roles at major companies and launching startups, Yael found herself deeply unfulfilled—despite outward success. Her story explores what happens when you r...

In this episode of Say This, Not That , workplace wellbeing expert and keynote speaker Dilan Gomih shares powerful insights on the connection between movement, mindset, and performance. Drawing from her experience on a high-pressure Wall Street trading floor, Dilan explains how shifting her perspective on fitness—from a “nice-to-have” to a “must-have”—completely transformed how she showed up in he...

When someone you care about is suffering, grieving, or facing the end of life, finding the “right” words can feel impossible. In this episode of Say This, Not That , palliative care nurse practitioner Regan Marooney shares what she has learned from years spent sitting beside patients and families during life’s hardest moments—and why sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is simply be presen...

Difficult conversations are something most of us try to avoid—but according to negotiation expert Bob Bordone , avoiding conflict often creates even bigger problems. In this episode, Bob shares the concept of conflict resilience : the ability to stay present during uncomfortable disagreements while still communicating effectively and listening with curiosity. Drawing on decades of experience teach...

What do you say when someone you care about is going through something painful, and you have no idea how to respond? In this inaugural episode, Kristen Leone sits down with her close friend Katie O’Malley to unpack one of life’s most uncomfortable but important challenges: showing up for others in difficult moments. From losing a loved one to illness, job loss, and everyday struggles, this convers...