Sage-Based Wisdom

Jana and Bobby are joined by Rachel Crowl (Between Two Knees, The Lowdown) to talk about stealing scenes in Romeo & Juliet, meeting Madonna, and the magic of live theater. Rachel shares how she stumbled into acting, why challenging directors can make you a better artist, and what it means to return to the stage after a 12-year hiatus. Meanwhile, Bobby is painting a massive mural in St. Paul, n...

Jana and Bobby catch up on Bobby’s Minnesota mural adventures, Jana’s mysterious stomach troubles, and a missed Santa Fe film festival before getting fired up about ICE and the hypocrisy of Americans crossing into Mexico for affordable healthcare. Plus, they help a bakery worker stay optimistic through workplace changes and negative coworker. FOR MORE OF US IN YOUR LIFE, BECOME AN OFFICIAL WISE AS...

Jana and Bobby celebrate the aunties and culture keepers doing the work in Indian Country, revisit their childhood Disney obsessions, and dream up Indigenous fairy tales. Plus, they get real about accountability in our communities and help a Māori listener navigate the heartbreak of falling for a best friend. FOR MORE OF US IN YOUR LIFE, BECOME AN OFFICIAL WISE ASS: sagebasedwisdom.supercast.com H...

CW: This episode discusses sexual assault, domestic violence, violence against Indigenous women and Two-Spirit relatives, MMIP/MMIW, child abuse, murder, and other forms of gender-based violence. In response to the ongoing #Cornell7 / #Cornell57 conversation, Jana and Bobby are joined by attorney, educator, and playwright Mary Kathryn Nagle for a rage-fueled breakdown about the violence Native wom...

Jana and Bobby talk about the chaos of working in the arts, old-school YouTube, awkward social interactions, and the questionable things they once did for free. They get into how to welcome someone into a conversation, what to do when you forget a name, embracing awkwardness instead of spiraling, and learning from kids who simply ask for what they need. Plus: Bobby gets ghosted by a park dad, peni...

Jana and Bobby are joined by Mary Hollis Inboden (Kevin Can F**k Himself, The Righteous Gemstones) for a conversation about Arkansas and learning a Boston accent. Then, naturally, things spiral into Boyz II Men fart allegations, sharting at the Mall of America, whether kids still think farts are funny, and what it means if they don’t. Mary, Jana, and Bobby talk about trusting the people whose feed...

Jana and Bobby are joined by Beth Stelling (Rutherford Falls, Girl Daddy), getting sacred, silly, and deeply real as they remember Georgina Lightning, swap stories from their Rutherford Falls days, and somehow spiral into cat surgery, TIFF styling, Dayton tattoos, machetes, and the state of stand-up comedy. They also get into criticism, narcissism, learning how to take a note, and figuring out who...

Jana and Bobby are back, getting sacred, silly, and wildly off track as they ponder what happened when someone broke an ankle in the old days, talk Indigenous approaches to disability and community, mourn the emo poems lost to colonization, and somehow end up on birch bark porn. They also dive deep into dreams, premonitions, alternate dimensions, and the ways dreams can guide us through change. Th...

Jana welcomes friend Bobby Dues Wilson as Sage-Based Wisdom’s new interim co-host, and the two waste no time getting sacred, silly, and deeply off track. They swap stories from Tacoma, unpack Bobby’s adventures as an Indian stage dad, expose Brian’s questionable skateboarding skills, investigate Adam Driver’s alleged Native roots, and react to some truly unhinged Johnny Depp advice. Then, they ans...

Jana and Brian unpack people-pleasing, older-sibling dynamics, and the comfort of knowing the women in your life will never let you go missing. They also debate manifestation versus actual goal-setting, explore improv and play as tools for imagining a bigger life, and discuss the emotional labor women often carry for the men around them. A listener asks how to go from “cute” to “hot.” FOR MORE OF...

Jana and Brian catch up from Tacoma and San Diego, unpack Jana’s new role, and celebrate the power of tribal investment, creative momentum, and little-brother energy. They also roast an awkward consent video, debate whether social media actually helps a career, and answer a listener’s question about outgrowing a longtime friendship, offering advice on recognizing when a relationship has run its co...

Jana and Brian are joined by drag performer Bohenne Arrow to discuss drag origins, shaved eyebrows, astrology, and becoming comfortable taking up space. Along the way, they debate affirmations, personality tests, red light therapy, and whether Brian should become Professor Hopscotch. A listener calls struggling with stage fright advice about trying improv, embracing vulnerability, and practicing b...

Jana and Brian celebrate the arrival of "Hot Mess Summer," swap stories about Pride parties, cat chaos, and the horror-comedy obsession that is Widow's Bay , all while making the case for embracing cellulite, imperfections, and a little more joyful messiness. They also answer a listener's question about why asking for help can feel so impossible, unpacking the myths of radical...

Jana and Brian compare notes on embracing their "dumb bitch era," from Peloton workouts and UCLA writing classes to recovering from the flu and rediscovering the joy of summer. They unpack why climbing Mount Everest might be humanity's most unnecessary hobby, debate the ethics of adventure tourism, and answer a listener's plea for help getting her partner to finally do the dish...

Jana and Brian discuss neighborhood weed diplomacy after Jana's flight attendant neighbor confronts her about balcony smoking, debate the merits of cigarettes versus vape pens, and unpack why billionaires with too much time on their hands might be humanity's greatest threat. They also weigh in on a listener's quest to become the breakout star of an Indigenous joy panel, offering adv...

This week Jana and Brian are joined by Indigenous creators Kairyn Potts and Scott Wabano for a chaotic conversation about Indigenous dating, toxic masculinity, gay gossip networks, crack-smoking politicians, chest plates, and their new reality series Reservations for Two—the first Indigenous blind dating show in Canada. Plus, the crew tackles listener gossip, debates why men want children, and off...

Jana and Brian are joined by environmental strategist Jade Begay (JADED) to talk climate justice, Standing Rock, Native politics, and the very real possibility of launching a queer medical tourism empire. They also advise a listener worried about being a stoner parent by exploring weed stigma, bad girl eras, whimsical living, and whether taking a gummy might actually make you a better mom. FOR MOR...

Jana and Brian are joined by comedian Dylan Adler to discuss Wasian drama, Japanese and Native wisdom stereotypes, and, of course, gay stuff. Along the way, they discuss the ol' Pledge of Allegiance and Brian's Palm Springs orgy schedule. They give a listener trying to build community with their neighbors some advice about how to even do that. FOR MORE OF US IN YOUR LIFE, BECOME AN OFFIC...

Jana and Brian discuss the emotional manipulation of dog TikTok, the terrifying freedom of being single with no responsibilities, and why getting canceled on feels better than receiving flowers. Along the way, they spiral through Beyoncé concert economics, the “burnt toast theory,” gay men motorboating Jana in New York, and the psychological depths of bimbofication via Brian Noem’s alleged balloon...

Jana and Brian are joined by comedian and filmmaker Blake Pickens to discuss Seattle, Native comedy crowds, sleep schedules that signal either wellness or unemployment, and whether couples actually need to live together to be in love. Along the way, they debate Pearl Jam, eagle feather etiquette, Oklahoma rivalries, and relationship fart milestones. They give  listener with suspiciously dramatic f...

Jana and Brian discuss Botox, secret nice apartments, fry bread innovation, and whether human composting is actually the most ethical way to die. Along the way, they unpack whale intelligence, tramp stamp aspirations, and why powdered sugar might secretly be a lethal topping. A listener writes in wondering if they’re too emotionally attached to their cat, and the hosts deliver deeply conflicting a...

Jana and Brian are back in their ménage à trois era (you, them, and the listener) and covering everything from Jana’s mysterious upcoming hockey movie to Brian’s road life revelations and questionable wellness choices. They break down a chaotic Instagram reel full of woo-woo advice, debate gratitude lists, and spiral into stories about road rage, touring struggles, and stomach issues. A listener w...

Jana and Brian discuss Brian's travels to NYC for shows and his feelings about being back in the city they both love. Jana spills the tea about basement shows and how every comedian should be grateful for any performance venues. Jana plays an Instagram reel about applying for a job whilst on the rag, and the two give out scholarly advice to a caller.  FOR MORE OF US IN YOUR LIFE, BECOME AN OF...

Jana, Brian, and special guest Marcella Arguello (Bitch, Grow Up, Abbott Elementary) get into everything from the chaos of comedy touring to the very real question of whether LA is still “the place” to be. Marcella shares why she left California for Chicago and how stepping away from the industry grind created space for clarity, growth, and better comedy, while the group spirals (productively) thr...

Jana and Brian are back in their internet episode era (no guest today!) as they spiral from pandemic nostalgia and saxophone karaoke lore into TikTok discourse, pajama teens, and why straight men should maybe… just kiss. A listener question about getting soaked while doing dishes leads to surprisingly real advice: you might just be doing everything too fast. The takeaway? Not everything needs to b...