Out of Beta

With team members taking more and more off of his plate, Matt is able to spend more time on high-level thinking, such as the mission of Summit. Meanwhile, Peter is planning to roll out a free plan for Reform.

Peter is wrestling with two big problems at Reform: The stability (or lack thereof) of their hosting provider and how to dramatically increase the top-of-funnel. Matt is recruiting founders to build startups on top of Summit, using the Summit API as a modeling layer.

Matt and Peter update the listeners on how things are going with Summit and Reform. Reform had its second-best month of trials, and Summit is adding engineering capacity behind the Summit API. Peter also shares his idea for an updated version of Reform's pricing, and Matt has an idea for how to put the "Re" in Reform.

Peter has found his groove at the new coworking space and is working on marketing for Reform. Meanwhile, Matt is working on some big changes to the Summit frontend that will give users more powerful query and charting capabilities.

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Matt is riding a local high at Summit where he just onboarded his new engineering teammate, Pieter. At Reform, Peter is trying to find out where the next stream of customers will be coming from. Vote for Reform in the Product Hunt Golde Kitty Awards: https://www.producthunt.com/golden-kitty-awards-2021/no-code

Matt and Peter are mentally already in 2022 as they're tying up all their loose ends from 2021.

Matt and Peter share a quick update from their lives and businesses and ponder the next phase of Out of Beta.

Matt shares his 15-month roadmap for Summit, including some big infrastructure changes he has in mind for Q4. Meanwhile, Peter is thinking through the tradeoffs of losing short-term momentum by focusing on long-term scalability for Reform.

Matt wants to let other people build apps and calculators on top of Summit. Peter is heads down thinking about growth.

Matt and the Summit team just pushed out a big update to improve user activation. Peter is struggling to find time to think strategic about the business with all the noise of a successful Product Hunt launch and life in general. Summit Reform Matt on Twitter Peter on Twitter

Peter is sharing his experience of being number one on Product Hunt with Reform, before heading off for a short personal retreat in his cabin. Matt is doubling down on activation for Summit, while he plans out the next phase of the business.

Peter has sold two of his products, WP Pusher and Branch, to focus 100% on Reform. Matt is mapping out the first few personas for Summit, as he thinks about growth.

Matt is in planning mode pondering what the next steps for Summit are. Peter is continuing to feel momentum with Reform, even though the road to profitability still feels long.

Matt and Peter are both feeling some momentum with their new products. The two have a conversation about upcoming plans for product and marketing, and how they think about what's core in their products.

Matt and Peter both had big launches in the past week - Matt launched templates and a few other Summit updates and Peter launched Reform, which is now out of early access.

This episode begins with a quick 101 for new listeners of the show. Peter is still working on launching Reform and Matt is almost ready to start charging for the new Summit.

While Matt and Peter completely forgot to acknowledge it on the episode, this one marks the 100th episode of Out of Beta. Tune in for a regular updates episode, maker/manager style.

Matt and Peter are back on the mics to update listeners on their two early access products, Summit and Reform. Matt considers all the ways to educate new Summit users, while Peter develops his product prioritization practice. Referenced in the show: Inspiring with a Product Vision by Netflix Director of Product, Ebi Atawodi

Derrick Reimer is back for another on-air mastermind session with Matt and Peter.

Matt is dropping Loom videos on Twitter and his followers are starting to really grok what he's building with the new Summit. Peter is excited about a new customer he brought on and is getting ready to launch Reform.

Is launching always just around the corner? Development on Reform continues, as Peter and Bjørn win a new customer for a brand new use-case: customer onboarding. Matt and the Summit team make steady progress and shorten their list of must-haves. The two discuss pricing and feature prioritization.

Matt has a new way of describing Summit as the product keeps evolving. Peter is noticing some differences between Branch and Reform that are making him optimistic about the future.

Matt has been sharing screenshots of the new Summit on Twitter and the reactions have him optimistic about the new product. Peter is tired and wanting to launch Reform to more customers - yesterday.

Matt and Peter are joined by their mastermind buddy, Derrick Reimer of SavvyCal. Matt is working on Summit's SEL language, Derrick just shipped an Outlook integration for SavvyCal, and Peter is trying to balance customer development with shipping product.