Off the Clock (Legal Value Network)

In this episode, Justin Ergler and Keith Maziarek sat down with Zach Posner, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of The Legal Tech Fund — the largest dedicated investor in legal technology globally, with 80+ portfolio companies spanning software sold into law firms, corporate legal departments, and consumers. Zach also leads the Fund's annual summit, widely considered the "Davos" of legal tech, and is...

In the latest episode of Off the Clock from the Legal Value Network, hosts Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler sit down with Mark Wasserman, CEO Emeritus of Eversheds Sutherland, for a candid, unscripted look at the realities of modern legal leadership. Mark pulls back the curtain on the industry's biggest shifts, from managing massive global mergers to navigating the next frontier of business. Here...

On this episode, we're sitting down with Richard Burcher — a true pioneer in legal pricing and profitability. Richard is a New Zealand-born lawyer who spent nearly 30 years in private practice, including seven as a managing partner, before founding  Validatum — a consultancy dedicated to helping law firms price smarter and manage profitability with intention. Most recently, Richard has joined Ader...

Join Justin Ergler and Keith Maziarek as they sit down with Jae Um, Chief Growth Officer and Head of Knowledge at Lumio, for a wide-ranging conversation about the seismic shifts reshaping the legal industry. From law firm mergers to AI adoption, this episode cuts through the noise to explore what really matters: people, strategy, and the courage to change. Key Topics: The Great Consolidation: Why...

In this special edition of Legal Value Network's "Off the Clock" podcast, hosts Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler welcome their co-founders and original Board member counterparts Toby Brown, Purvi Sanghvi, Stuart Dodds, Chris Ende and Kristina Lambright. The group shares stories from the early days when the idea of forming LVN was first explored, with a lot of behind the scenes anecdotes and experi...

In this episode, LVN Board Members  Keith Maziarek  and  Justin Ergler   sit down with  Andrew Bayman ,   Partner at King and Spalding, for a wide-ranging discussion about what it means to think like an owner in the modern legal marketplace. This conversation reveals how law firms are transforming the business of law—replacing the billable hour with data-driven models that balance client outcomes...

On this episode, LVN board members Justin Ergler and Keith Maziarek talk to Zach Abramowitz, founder of Killer Whale Strategies. They examine the impact of the artificial intelligence on the law. The trio discuss whether it's a paradigm shift or is it just incremental change in technology. They explore how lawyers are secretly using AI and why the technology might be better at creative, high level...

LVN Board Members Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler host Patrick Fuller, Chief Strategist for ALM. The trio discuss Patrick's role in analyzing law firm data, market trends, and client challenges. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding indirect market impacts, such as talent supply and operating costs in emerging markets. Patrick emphasizes the need for law firms to raise ra...

LVN Board members Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler sit down with Stephen Poor, Chair Emeritus at Seyfarth Shaw. The trio discuss the inevitable changes impacting law firms, from the integration of non-legal professionals to the ongoing debate around the billable hour in the age of AI. They also examine why forward-thinking leaders found early resistance to now-common ideas, and give their perspect...

In this episode Legal Value Network board members Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler discuss innovation in the legal industry with David Cunningham, Chief Innovation Officer at Reed Smith. They explore the challenges and benefits of adopting AI and technology, emphasizing the importance of a holistic approach that integrates various tools and processes. Cunningham highlights Reed Smith's strategy of...

LVN Board Members Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler discuss the integration of generative AI in legal services with Conan Hines, Director of Legal Technology at Fried Frank. They explore the challenges and ethical considerations of billing for AI-enhanced legal work, comparing it to traditional legal research costs. Hines highlights the potential for AI to streamline tasks, reduce costs, and improv...

In this special episode of Off the Clock, recorded live at the 2024 LVNx conference in Chicago, Legal Value Network Board Members Justin Ergler and Keith Maziarek engage in a dynamic discussion with three esteemed guests: Jennifer Leonard (founder of  Creative Lawyers and Professor at University of Pennsylvania Law School), Laura Terrell (Executive Coach and host of the BigLaw Life Podcast) and Pr...

On this episode, LVN board members Justin Ergler and Keith Maziarek welcome Jennifer Leonard, LVnX 2024 Keynote Speaker and founder of Creative Lawyers, for a candid discussion about the  challenges and opportunities facing  the  modern legal profession. The trio delve into  the  potential disruption of AI, evolving client expectations, and  the future of legal education. Jennifer also offers her...

In this episode, LVN Board Members Justin Ergler and  Keith  Maziarek have a chat with  Jessica Lim, National Director, Practice Management, Disputes at Borden Ladner Gervais, located in Toronto. In typical fashion the conversation covers a number of topics, this time including the process of making career transitions, how to coach law firm partners to more effectively pitch clients for new busine...

In this episode, LVN Board member Keith Maziarek catches up with Ken Callander from Value Strategies, a consultancy advising law firms, legal departments, and legal operations on pricing, relationship management, and client service delivery, among other areas. Keith and Ken discuss: The evolution and growth of the role of a legal operations professional and the role of younger, fast-growing tech c...

In the latest episode of Legal Value Network's "Off the Clock" podcast, Keith Maziarek sits down with longtime friend and client legal ops veteran Reese Arrowsmith, VP and Head of Legal Operations at Campbell Soup Company to chat about a variety of topics. In particular, they discussed how the client/firm relationship will be impacted by the recent developments in technology. They also talk a bit...

In this episode, Keith Maziarek, an LVN board member and Director of Pricing and Legal Project Management at Katten, has an insightful conversation with Melissa Gyure, Director of Pricing at Paul Hastings. The pair discuss in-house legal operations and relationships with law firms. The duo discuss everything from pricing dynamics and risk mitigation to cost control.

LVN Board Members Justin Ergler (GSK) and Keith Maziarek (Katten), have a conversation with Shawn Gross, Director of Pricing and Legal Project Management at Constangy, about the evolution of pricing and legal project management roles and how they now intersect with marketing and finance. The trio also examine the importance of making financial and pricing concepts easy to understand and why showin...

This is a special episode recorded at the LVNx conference in Chicago and includes a conversation LVN board members Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler had with LVNx keynote speaker Gina Passarella, SVP of Content from ALM Global, as well as Greg Lambert, one of the three original geeks from the Three Geeks and a Law Blog and host of "The Geek in Review Podcast" as well as being Chief Knowledge Servic...

Founding LVN Board Member Justin Ergler has a wide-ranging conversation with Matthew Beekhuizen, Chief Pricing and Innovation Officer at Greenberg Traurig. The duo discuss the importance of developing strong relationships with legal clients and the need to "translate" business to legal. They also discuss hiring the right people for the right job, how to best build credibility within an organizatio...

In this episode, LVN Board Members Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler are in conversation with Stefanie Marrone, who serves as a fractional and outsourced marketing director for law firms and professional services companies. The trio discuss the importance of a client-centered approach to differentiate law firms in a crowded market. Stefanie also explains the need for law firms to understand their c...

LVN board members Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler talk to Nathan Cemenska, Director, Legal Operations and Industry Insights at Wolters Kluwer. The trio discuss pricing and negotiation dynamics between law firms and clients, with a focus on the use of data and alternative solutions such as insourcing and utilizing ALSPs. They also also touch on the factors driving legal rate increases.

Founding LVN board members Justin Ergler and Keith Maziarek reunite with Laura Terrell, a long-time lawyer turned executive coach. They discuss the history of their somewhat uncommon relationship and how it underscores the importance of collaboration and communication between legal teams and finance personnel. The trio also shares their experience working together on a fast-moving portfolio of mat...

This episode was recorded live at the LVNx Conference in Chicago and is a conversation with LVN Board Members Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler with multiple guests from across the legal ecosystem including Aaron Boersma, Mikhail Makarovsky and Jae Um. This dynamic conversation touched on a variety of provocative and timely topics such as the untapped potential benefits of client feedback, whether...

LVN Board member and Katten's Director of Pricing and Legal Project Management, Keith Maziarek, has a wide ranging conversation with Angela Floessel, Director of Pricing and  Legal Project Management at Morrison & Foerster  Discussion topics include why Angela made the jump to legal from private equity, why law firms need to be disciplined about legal pricing strategies, the importance of project...