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CNLP 837 | The Overcorrection Against Church Growth: Andrew Hopper on Why We Shouldn’t Celebrate Church Decline 19.10.2026 1:09:47
Andrew Hopper saw his church plant grow to 1000 in two years, and almost nobody understood how hard that actually was. Especially when you planted at 28 years-old. In this conversation, he tackles church growth critics, and opens up about the tightrope of leading crazy growth in public. 🔗 Show Notes 🤖 AI and the...
CNLP 836 | The Strengths, Weaknesses and Moral Failures of the Mega-Church Movement: Jimmy Mellado on Healthy Growth, Scale, and Lessons from an Olympian 14.10.2026 1:40:50
Jimmy Mellado unpacks what the church growth movement got right and wrong from the 90s through 2010s, why concentrated power without governance breaks leaders, the ingredients that go into moral failure, and what scale costs a pastor. Plus, he shares lessons from his time as an Olympian. This one’s for leaders who’ve mistaken growth for...
CNLP 835 | How to Trust God When You Don’t Understand: John Ortberg, Ann Voskamp, and Toni Nieuwhof on Wanting to Give Up and What They Would Believe If They Weren’t Christians 12.10.2026 1:45:51
John Ortberg, Ann Voskamp, and Toni Nieuwhof get personal about the questions faith doesn’t answer easily: what they’d believe if they weren’t Christians, why suffering isolates us, wanting to quit, and what Dallas Willard told John about painful seasons. Plus, all proceeds from HonestToGodBook.com go to empowering youth education in developing nations through Convoy of...
The Wreckage of a Wrong Scorecard 12.10.2026 28:57
Pre-Order Pete Scazzero's forthcoming book, Emotionally Healthy Success, at http://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/success and get a free chapter. When I finished the first chapter of this book, I was ready to move on to the hopeful part. My editor sent it back with a hard word: “Pete, you can't get to the cure until you've told the truth...
CNLP 834 | Everything You Know About Multisite Church is Wrong! What the Largest Multisite Study Ever Done Actually Found with Warren Bird and Sean Morgan 05.10.2026 1:20:14
Warren Bird and Sean Morgan bust the “8,000 multisite churches” myth with real numbers from the largest multisite study ever done (there are only 1800). Multisite churches are just 0.5% of all churches, yet they reach 10% of churchgoers, and that share is growing. Tune in for an hour of the most detailed data on...
CNLP 833 | The Problem with Going Viral: Seth Godin on the Truth About Influencers, Status and Affiliation and Why You Should Avoid The Race to the Bottom in AI 28.09.2026 58:04
Seth Godin returns to explore the problem with going viral, the truth about influencers, why you don’t want to play the game of gaining more and more influence online, how status and affiliation drive everything, and why you should avoid the race to the bottom in AI. 🔗 Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future...
The Lies We Call Success Part 1 28.09.2026 29:13
Pre-Order Pete Scazzero's forthcoming book, Emotionally Healthy Success, at http://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/success and get a free chapter. This is Part 1, and we're starting where the book starts: the lies we call success. For years I measured my ministry the way most of us do. Attendance. Budget. Baptisms. Conferences that promised the next strategy for growth. It...
CNLP 832 | Building Your Personal Board of Directors: Annie F. Downs on AI Friendship vs. Real Friends and Why Christians Need to Stay in the Secular World 23.09.2026 1:34:40
Annie F. Downs joins the show to talk about why every leader needs a personal board of directors and who actually belongs there. Carey and Annie discuss why AI friendship can never replace the real thing and why Christians need to stay in the secular world instead of retreating from it. Plus, we get a...
CNLP 831 | Is AI Worse for Mental Health Than Social Media? Andy Stanley and Holly Goddard Interview Carey Nieuwhof 21.09.2026 1:06:04
We missed what social media would do to human flourishing. We can’t afford to miss what AI is about to do, especially to the next generation. Andy Stanley and Holly Goddard sat down with Carey Nieuwhof on AI, mental health, employment, and the isolation it’s accelerating, and why the church might be the one place...
CNLP 830 | AI Parenting Advice: James Kelly on Whether AI Is Sinful in Nature and the Killer App Trap 14.09.2026 1:18:50
Faith Tech’s James Kelly sits in rooms with the people building AI companies and models, and he’s blunt about what that means for your kids. He unpacks the Killer App Trap, why he won’t let his own kids use AI companions yet, and reflects on how AI itself is subject to the fall. 🔗 Show...
Why I Wrote Emotionally Healthy Success 14.09.2026 28:51
Pre-Order Pete Scazzero's forthcoming book, Emotionally Healthy Success, at http://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/success and get a free chapter. What if you could succeed brilliantly at something God never asked you to do? Is it possible to succeed at the wrong thing? I spent a good part of my ministry answering yes to that question without knowing it. I...
CNLP 829 | The Race To Replace Humans Is Already On: Will Jones’ Fight To Ban Superintelligent AI and What Most Leaders Have No Idea Is Coming 09.09.2026 1:12:39
The AI Frontier labs are building AI to do what YOU do, only faster and cheaper. And most leaders have no idea what’s coming. Will Jones of the Future of Life Institute says this is the part nobody tells you: the more you lean on it to keep up, the more replaceable you make yourself....
CNLP 828 | The Giving Disruption Coming for the Church: Pat Gelsinger on AI and Mental Health 07.09.2026 1:30:19
Former Intel and VMware CEO Pat Gelsinger talks about what AI is doing to us and our churches. He unpacks the mental health toll of social media (and what’s coming next), the job loss scenarios leaders aren’t ready for, how AI will reshape giving in the church, and why engaging high-net-worth individuals matters now. Plus:...
CNLP 827 | The Questions About AI Leaders Never Ask: AI Girlfriends, Truth and Deepfakes, and Best and Worst Case Scenarios 31.08.2026 1:35:53
You use AI. Have you thought about what it’s doing to your church, the people you’re reaching, or your soul? James (JP) Poulter flips the mic to interview Carey! They discuss AI girlfriends, deepfakes, and the best and worst case scenarios nobody’s naming. There’s a shift happening in your church and your community right now,...
Reversal #4: From Critical Mass to Critical Yeast 31.08.2026 30:24
Pre-Order Pete Scazzero's forthcoming book, Emotionally Healthy Success, at http://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/success and get a free chapter. For years, I measured ministry impact by one word: bigger. I remember walking into one of the largest churches in America, watching thousands of people fill the room, and thinking, this is it, this is critical mass. A staff member...
CNLP 816 | The Brutal Reality of Pastoring: John Ortberg on Leadership Pain, the Introvert’s Ministry Dilemma, and Dealing With the Job You Didn’t Sign Up For 08.07.2026 1:18:23
John Ortberg has spent decades leading churches, writing books, and teaching leaders. But every leader has parts of the job they’re not naturally good at. In this conversation, John opens up about pain in leadership, what it’s like to be an introvert in ministry, and how to handle the work you’d rather avoid. 🔗 Show...
CNLP 815 | The Death of Secularism: Matt Chandler on Why Pastors Shouldn’t Wear Capes and When the Church Is All Wood and No Fire 06.07.2026 1:01:11
Matt Chandler doesn’t pull punches. The lead pastor of The Village Church joins Carey to talk about why wearing a cape doesn’t help anyone, the death of secularism, and why the church is all wood and no fire. Matt also opens up about the moment he almost quit, what Spurgeon taught him about suffering, and...
Stillness Under Siege: Finding Rest Under Impossible Pressure 06.07.2026 32:29
Free Resource: Craft a Rule of Life for Emotionally Healthy Leaders → emotionallyhealthy.org/rule In 2004, I stood in front of a building we couldn't afford to renovate, a staff team with the wrong people in the wrong seats, and a list of problems that all traced back to my own failures as a leader. I...
CNLP 814 | Networking Without the Awkward: Michael Bungay Stanier on Better 1:1s and Building a Path No One Else Is Walking 29.06.2026 1:23:08
Networking feels fake because most people do it wrong. Michael Bungay Stanier has a better way. In this conversation, MBS breaks down how to connect without the cringe, the seven questions you need to ask to run 1:1s that actually matter, and build a career path nobody handed you. Plus: a deep dive into self-publishing...
CNLP 813 | Church Trends Update: Your Congregation Is Being Discipled 49 Hours a Week (And Not By You), The Wrong Convo About AI, Women Leaving, and the Anti-Celebrity Pastor 24.06.2026 34:47
Six months into 2026, four church trends deserve a closer look. Algorithms are discipling your congregation 49 hours a week. AI’s biggest threat isn’t prompts—it’s disruption on a scale the church isn’t ready for. Women are still leaving, and now we know why. And a new kind of megachurch pastor is quietly emerging. Here’s what’s...
CNLP 812 | Creativity Is the Church’s Lost Superpower: Al Gordon on How Stress and Algorithms Are Killing Your Imagination and How to Unlock Creativity in Your Team 22.06.2026 1:15:33
Most leaders don’t think of themselves as creative. Al Gordon says that’s the lie keeping you stuck. Al, founder of Renaissance, lead pastor of SAINT in East London, talks about why creativity is the church’s lost superpower, how stress and algorithms are quietly killing your imagination, and what it actually takes to unlock creativity in...
You Are Not God: Experience the Freedom of Stopping 22.06.2026 33:18
Free Resource: Rule of Life for Emotionally Healthy Leaders → emotionallyhealthy.org You were made for glorious work. But you were also made to stop. Most of us know how to produce, build, plan, and push through. What we struggle with is the hidden life. The stopping. The surrendering. The trusting when no one can see...
CNLP 811 | The Myth of 10,000 Hours: David Epstein on How Creativity Actually Works and Why Constraints Set You Free 15.06.2026 1:22:12
New York Times bestselling author David Epstein talks about why Malcolm Gladwell’s 10000-hour rule isn’t accurate, how he and Malcolm became friends, how creativity actually works (what you can learn from Dr. Seuss), and why constraints and limits set you free. 🔗 Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church – NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching...
CNLP 810 | The End of Anxiety? Joshua Becker on Spiritual Minimalism and When Enough is Enough 10.06.2026 1:18:36
Former pastor, minimalist, and New York Times bestselling author Joshua Becker returns to the podcast. He discusses why he left ministry to pursue a fresh calling, how minimalism can usher in an end to anxiety, when enough is enough, and how decluttering can be good for your soul. 🔗 Show Notes 🤖 AI and the...
CNLP 809 | Get Past Broke Thinking In Your Church: The Lean Startup’s Eric Reis on When To Take A Risk and Why Harder is Easier 08.06.2026 56:47
New York Times bestselling author Eric Ries applies his startup philosophy to churches. Carey and Eric cover how to know when to take a risk, how to get past broke thinking in your church, and why the harder path is often easier. 🔗 Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church – NEW BOOK! 🗣️...
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