The Great Security Debate
Great Security Debate
Two CISOs and a security-minded friend discuss and debate topics of security and privacy, with a focus on looking at the topic from various angles, both that they support and those they don't. Sign up for our newsletter to be notified when new episodes drop, or when new projects are announced https://newsletter.greatsecuritydebate.net
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Doorbells Ring Hollow 23.02.2026 46:49
What on earth were Ring and Amazon thinking when they aired their Super Bowl advert that previewed a “there’s nowhere you can hide” type of dystopian future masked as a way to find your lost dog? With cameras everywhere, are we safer or just more exposed? When camera data is deleted, is it really gone (spoiler alert: not necessarily), and more. Are we approaching the new location of the “creepy li...
Complacency in the Loop 09.02.2026 43:34
AI is growing in use within information security, but are we ready to trust it to do all the things we hope it can, and do so automatically without doing harm? Context is king, and training to that level is only possible when you give all your experience to the AI. What are the tradeoffs to doing so? What happens when we depend on AI and forget (or worse, never learn) the underpinnings of what mak...
WOPR Was Right 12.01.2026 44:41
Recently and over the past few years, world events may have included cybersecurity components in their enactment. So, Brian, Erik, and Dan started talking about the role of security in critical infrastructure protection, asking questions about the ethics and thresholds for government and corporate roles in cyber retaliation, whether we as security practitioners have a role (or an obligation, or ev...
Signs, Signs. Everywhere A Sign. 29.12.2025 54:14
Rules are made and policies are established. But the “how” of implementing and meeting those regulations or policies will be very context specific. In this episode of the Great Security Debate, Dan, Erik, and Brian cover a number of key policies and requirements and some different ways to think about implementing them and how the specific situation, company, risk will affect the way you meet the r...
Agentic Dan 15.12.2025 48:51
We are back for another Great Security Debate. In this episode: we discuss the potential role of agentic AI in security, from true “copilot” to automated decider of things, and whether LLMs are just a really cool search engine. Brian, Erik, and Dan also debate the means and extent to which we could replace ourselves with agents and what the inhibitors and risks are (spoiler alert: trust and surviv...
Give a Sh!t Posture Management 17.11.2025 54:51
On this weeks’ Debate, Brian brings a truckload of acronyms for more single panes of glass to help us consolidate our various single panes of glass, Erik may actually be Brian (or maybe Brian is Erik), and Dan confirms he still (and likely always will) spend the rest of his days living in the house he just built deep in the Trough of Disillusionment. What started out as a chat about some new techn...
The 100 Years AI Flood 03.11.2025 47:26
The Great Security Debate is *back*! It’s been a busy year, but it’s time to get this show back on the air (and maybe on the road). Dan takes a break from the rat race, Erik took over the world, and Brian uses Elmer’s Glue to splice his network cables. Topics in the show this week: AWS and Microsoft make the best cases for business continuity plans, the AI Is public cloud reliable enough? Should w...
Risky Risks: Live from the GTS Security Summit 12.05.2025 47:30
The Great Security Debate crew recorded a live episode at the GTS Security Summit in Detroit, Michigan with special guest, Zah Gonzalvo, SVP of Financial, Climate, and Operational Risk at Banco Popular. Tune in for a great discussion on risk, risk mitigation, risk prioritisation, and risk in context. Yep, it's all about risk! Takeaways: The evolution of security has shifted from a binary perspecti...
Fantasy Hacker League 21.10.2024 1:02:08
In this episode of The Great Security Debate, Dan, Brian and Erik invent (and copyright) the idea of a Fantasy Hacker League then dig into more serious discussions on deception technology, asset discovery challenges, and resource management. The conversation also delves into the impact of budget constraints on security projects, the mental toll on cybersecurity professionals, and the evolving role...
Free Disaster Recovery Tests! 03.09.2024 53:17
Welcome to the Great Security Debate! In this episode, experts take on a multifaceted discussion about the intricacies of technology and cybersecurity. The debate navigates through the recent incident involving CrowdStrike and Microsoft, dissecting the layers of technology, processes, and the roles of different entities in maintaining security. Emphasizing the lessons learned, the debate also expl...
To Insure or Not To Insure: It’s Not Even a Question 01.07.2024 1:01:42
This episode of 'The Great Security Debate' delves into the complexities surrounding cyber insurance, discussing its impact on minimising business risks and ensuring compliance. Erik, Brian, and Dan talk about how connected systems and automation increase risks and integrates AI reliance concerns. Insurance policies, force majeure, and government regulations get some quality discussion and debate...
Wear a Stop Sign On Your Shirt 06.06.2024 48:12
In this episode of the Great Security Debate, Brian, Erik, and Dan dive into the latest trends in ransomware including an uptick in attacks against the hypervisor. Speaking of VMWare, we also "discuss" the way that Broadcom has handled the VMWare acquisition and why it both make sense (to them) and doesn't (to many customers). The debate also heads into the impact of AI in cyber threats, and compa...
Mine Everything 05.06.2024 44:58
Sorry about the audio on this one. We have got the tech back on track for the next episode. I promise! Join the Great Security Debate as Brian, Erik, and Dan delve into 'pig slaughtering,' a scam involving rapport building to swindle victims out of money. The discussion explores the intersections of security awareness, blockchain technology, and the ethical implications of digital tracking tools l...
Spoiler Alert: Leave the World Behind 04.06.2024 58:31
Join Dan, Brian, and Erik in the latest episode of The Great Security Debate as they explore the impact and implications of the movie 'Leave the World Behind.' Delving into cyber security, societal impacts of technology, and philosophical elements, this discussion touches upon vulnerability management, risk management, and the effect of constant connectivity on modern life. Tune in to hear not onl...
Potpourri of Debate... Now with AI 08.01.2024 1:04:58
It's an "all rounder" episode of The Great Security Debate. Brian watched a movie, Erik watched an advertisement, and Dan was overtly cynical. Just another day in the podcast booth for these three. A variety pack of topics ranging from recent security attacks, to AI in technology, to automotive manufacturing (go figure), to privacy, to sponsorship and vendor models at live events, and more. Links...
The Downfall of All Security (Sales) 27.11.2023 55:09
It's not easy to sell things. It's even harder to sell to security practitioners and leaders. The Great Security Debate this week covers some angles in security tools (and selling those tools to security teams) that have taken their toll on the trust that needs to exist between those who buy and those who make the products that we use. From the software providers to the VAR (resellers) in the midd...
Less LLM, More Piano 21.08.2023 51:33
This week we are debating modern AI systems, especially the commercial ones on just about everyone's lips when talking about CVs, high school term papers, and interview answers. Large Language Models (LLMs), of which ChatGPT and Bard are two examples, are growing in prominence, but will they disrupt the technology world, or are they nothing more than just another blockchain fizzle? In this episode...
Security *is* Business! 05.07.2023 46:16
It's been a minute, but we are back with another Great Security Debate! Whether it is compliance, trust, questionnaires, we all sell something to someone and security is core to that process. In this episode, the focus is on how security integrates into the core of each of our businesses or organisations. From being part of strategic planning, the reminder that perfect being the enemy of progress,...
Jess and Jeff Invade 24.04.2023 54:04
Welcome to a very special Great Security Debate. If it is spring, it means that the annual Forrester “Top Recommendations For Your Security Program” report has come out, and we get to visit with one of the authors, Jess Burn. But this year, we get an added extra voice in that of Jess’ Forrester colleague Jeff Pollard. Both Jess and Jeff share a ton of insight on topics from that report and a few o...
Bankplosion! 13.03.2023 1:02:18
This week, Brian, Erik, and Dan look into the security impacts of last week’s Silicon Valley Bank closure, both from a direct security risk, but also what we can learn about risk from the events leading up to the incident that we can apply to our information security responsibilities. Brian kicks it off with a great description of how Silicon Valley Bank got here (based on what we knew on 12 March...
Back to Normal? 27.02.2023 54:12
The Great Security Debate Book Club is in FULL force this week as we talk about life after you’ve gotten the job in information security and are looking for the growth and promotion that come as you grow your career. Check out the show notes on our website www.greatsecuritydebate.net/48 to get links to all the books, articles, and references we discuss up through the show. A mere appetiser sized s...
Uninsurable! 16.01.2023 1:02:32
Insurance for information security is changing. Recently some reports came out that there were moves by insurance companies to leave the cybersecurity insurance market - that it was uninsurable. Dan, Brian, and Erik discuss on this week's Great Security Debate: What happens now that cybersecurity insurance is built into contracts and requirements by customers doing business with other companies? A...
A Niche Inside a Niche Is Really Just a Quiche 27.12.2022 56:49
Welcome to the year-end 2022 episode of The Great Security Debate. In this hour, Brian, Erik, and Dan cover myriad ways hiring processes are failing job seekers and hiring organisations. It all kicked off with the impersonal nature of automated 1-way video interviews. It quickly jumped into the myriad of other ways we can do better on both sides, including (but not limited to): Do video interviews...
Live From the Big House 30.10.2022 45:05
Recorded on Saturday 29 October 2022, at the tailgate before the University of Michigan vs Michigan State University (American) football game, Brian, Erik and Dan chat about the news of the day, with more than a few correlations back to football. And we had a special guest join us, too: Zah Gonzalvo Rodriguez There was an upcoming OpenSSL vulnerability hitting the world this week. How would Softwa...
No More Ads, No More Privacy Problem? 03.10.2022 55:35
This week’s debate comes amid a combo platter of increased analytics leading to near-immediate contact when visiting a product’s website, along with more clarity from enforcement bodies about how they will approach their respective privacy legislation. One such fine was the Sephora CCPA matter in which California Attorney General levied a $1.2M fine on the company ([ https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-...
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