Ben J. Abbey
Don't Sell Forever
Don't Sell Forever is a no-nonsense podcast for B2B founders who want predictable revenue but haven't been in (or led) sales before. If sales feels chaotic, inconsistent, or overly dependent on you, this show breaks down why. More importantly, it shows you how to fix the problems. Each episode focuses on the mechanics of building a real sales system, through solo breakdowns and conversations with founders, operators, and sales leaders who have built and scaled revenue the hard way. This isn't just motivation and it’s not tactics of the week. Expect practical breakdowns, strong opinions, and re...
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Episode 008: Roger Hau (PayerPrice): Building A Machine To Sell Into The Hardest Industry 08.04.2026 23:56
In this episode of Don't Sell Forever , Ben J. Abbey sits down with Roger Hau, co-founder and CEO of PayerPrice, a healthcare price transparency platform turning trillions of data points into tools that help physicians, patients, and payers finally see what care actually costs. Roger shares what it took to build a company in one of the most complex, resistant markets in the US, from the early grin...
Episode 007: Care, But Not Too Much 08.04.2026 6:28
In this episode of Don't Sell Forever , Ben J. Abbey breaks down one of the most overlooked dynamics in founder-led sales: why desperation kills deals and equality closes them. Drawing from over two decades in B2B sales, Ben makes the case that debasing yourself in front of a buyer by saying yes to everything, chasing ghosts, and bending the product to fit don't just lose deals. They lose respect,...
Episode 006: Nael El Shawwa (Sequel Labs): From Recruiting AI To Sales AI And The Future Of Work 31.03.2026 27:43
In this episode of Don't Sell Forever , Ben J. Abbey sits down with Nael El Shawwa, founder of Sequel Labs and creator of Cliff, an AI sales coaching platform built to help teams train, ramp, and improve performance through conversational AI. Nael shares how Cliff emerged from an earlier recruiting concept, why he pivoted quickly into sales, and what he learned by testing the product through dire...
Episode 005: Data Wins, Not Anecdotes 31.03.2026 9:16
In this episode of Don't Sell Forever , Ben J. Abbey breaks down one of the most common mistakes founders make in sales: relying on anecdotes instead of proof. Drawing from his work helping founders build repeatable sales systems, Ben explains why stories alone rarely close deals and how pairing them with specific, relevant data dramatically increases credibility and conversion. He walks throug...
Episode 004: Greg Rusnell (Profit Logic): Growing Up, Finding Your Voice And Your Sales Methods 31.03.2026 29:23
In this episode of Don't Sell Forever , Ben J. Abbey sits down with Greg Rusnell, longtime enterprise sales leader and founder of ProfitLogic, a firm helping manufacturers uncover and reclaim capital hidden inside underperforming contracts and vendor spend. Greg shares the path from early dot-com ventures and corporate leadership to returning to founder life with a clear lens on value creation, p...
Episode 003: Stop Selling, Start Making People Want To Buy (Because They Love To Do It) 30.03.2026 8:19
What if the problem isn’t that you can’t sell, but that you’re trying to sell at all? In this episode of Don't Sell Forever , Ben J. Abbey breaks down a core philosophy behind The Founder’s Sales Engine™ and the principle that shaped his decades of B2B sales excellence: stop pushing people to buy and start helping them realize they want to. Ben walks through the experiences that transformed his a...
Episode 002: Jordan Brooks (GreenPaths): From Grinding in Ads To A SaaS CRM Founder 30.03.2026 38:23
In the second episode of Don't Sell Forever, Ben J. Abbey sits down with Jordan Brooks, founder of GreenPaths, a mobile CRM for field sales in regulated industries. Jordan shares the real journey from agency life to consulting, the COVID wall, and the decision to build a scalable SaaS company under family, financial, and mental pressure. They unpack the parts founders rarely discuss: rebuilding...
Episode 001: Origin Story and Why The Founder's Sales Engine™ Exists 30.03.2026 11:01
In the first episode of Don't Sell Forever , Ben J. Abbey lays out the full backstory. Where he came from, how he spent over 20 years in tech sales, and why he built The Founder's Sales Engine. If you are a founder who hates selling, a founder who is stuck selling everything themselves, or a leader trying to build a real go-to-market engine, this episode sets the context for everything he believe...
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