Andrew Michael
CHURN FM
CHURN FM is the podcast for subscription economy pros. Every Wednesday we hear how the world’s fastest growing companies are tackling churn and using retention & engagement to fuel their growth.
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E304 | Why Product Delight Is No Longer Optional | Nesrine Changuel (Skype, Google, Spotify) 17.06.2026 41:09
Today on the show, we have Dr. Nesrine Changuel, founder of Product Excellence and Product Management Career Lab Director at ESSEC Business School. Prior to Product Excellence, Nesrine held senior product roles at Google, Spotify, and Microsoft. In this episode, we dig into why the technical barrier to building products has dropped so dramatically that functional quality alone can no longer diffe...
E303 | Customer Success Is Dead. Meet the Growth Department. 08.04.2026 33:45
Today on the show, we have Alex Raymond, founder of AMplify and author of The Growth Department, a book reframing how post-sales teams think about their role inside B2B companies. In this episode, we dig into why customer success and account management are in an identity crisis — and why the answer lies in orienting the entire function around one core purpose: helping the company win. We explore...
E302 | Why 51% of Subscribers Cancel Each Year—and How to Reduce Voluntary Churn 25.02.2026 31:34
Today on the show, we have Priya Lakshminarayanan , CPO of Recurly , a subscription management platform empowering brands like Twitch, PupBox, Sprout Social, and Pipedrive to launch, scale, and optimize subscription experiences. In this episode, we dive deep into Recurly's 2026 State of Subscriptions report , uncovering surprising trends that challenge conventional wisdom about churn. We exp...
E301 | Smarter Dunning: How Data and Intent Change Payment Recovery with Charles Rosenblatt of Butter Payments 04.02.2026 36:14
Today on the show, we have Charles Rosenblatt, CEO of Butter Payments, providing ML AI-driven payment recovery for subscription merchants and recurring payments. Previously, Charles was CSO of Payoneer, CRO at Velo Payments, and ran treasury at D.E. Shaw during the late 90s—where managing a financial crisis taught him that outside factors can derail even the best strategies and smartest teams. In...
E300 | Building Retention into Your DNA: Matthew Tharp on Churn Signals, ICP & Cold Email 23.01.2026 37:02
Today on the show, we have Matthew Tharp, CEO of Hunter.io, the all-in-one email outreach platform used by over 4 million people to identify prospects and run cold email campaigns. Previously, Matthew was VP of Worldwide Retention at LogMeIn, where he owned NRR across nine products—giving him a rare masterclass in retention challenges at different stages and scales. In this episode, we uncover why...
EP299 | How to Build a Brand That Speaks to Robots and Humans with Susan Keplinger | Force of Nature 05.12.2025 39:17
Today on the show, we have Susan Keplinger, CEO of Force of Nature, a boutique performance marketing shop behind the growth of brands like Ring, Oofos, and other category leaders. With experience building data-driven growth engines across e-commerce and DTC, Suzanne has helped companies shift from chaotic marketing to orchestrated, scalable systems. In this episode, we uncover why the future of pe...
E298 | Why LLM Agents Are Now your VIP Visitors and How to Optimize for Them 14.11.2025 33:05
Today on the show, we have Kevin White, Head of Marketing at Scrunch AI, a platform helping brands stay discoverable in the era of AI-powered search. Kevin brings experience from leading go-to-market and marketing teams at Segment, Retool, and Common Room, as well as advising fast-growing startups like Ashby, Deepnote, and Gretel.ai. In this episode, we explore how the rise of answer engines like...
EP297 | How Freemius Aligns Pricing With Growth to Reduce Graduation Churn 05.11.2025 30:08
Today on the show we have Vova Feldman, the Founder and CEO of Freemius. In this episode, Vova shares his experience in launching Freemius from a side project into a platform powering thousands of indie software businesses. We then discussed how Freemius is repositioning itself from its WordPress roots to become the go-to solution for small SaaS and desktop software businesses. We wrapped up by di...
E296 | What thousands of A/B tests reveal about websites that convert and retain with Casey Hill | DoWhatWorks 19.09.2025 43:09
Today on the show we have Casey Hill, CMO of DoWhatWorks, a patented growth experiment tracking engine that reveals which website changes actually drive results. Casey brings experience from ActiveCampaign, his work as a Stanford instructor and advisor, and years of research into how leading companies like Slack, Shopify, and Asana run experiments. In this episode, Casey breaks down why most A/B...
E295 | The Future of SEO in an AI-First world with Kevin Indig | HyperGrowth Partners 10.07.2025 39:58
Today on the show we have Kevin Indig, Growth Advisor and Partner at HyperGrowth Partners, a stage accelerator that invests time into early-stage startups to help them achieve and sustain rapid growth post-Series A. Kevin is also the former Director of SEO at Shopify and VP of SEO & Content at G2, with a rich background advising top startups like Glean, Toast, and Reddit. In this episode, Kevi...
E294 | SaaS isn’t dead, it’s just different: Alexander Theuma from SaaStock on the industry’s turning point 25.06.2025 40:19
Today on the show, we welcome Alexander Theuma, founder of SaaStock and general partner at BackFuture VC. In this episode, Alexander dives deep into the shifting SaaS landscape, exploring how AI is redefining capital efficiency, company structure, and startup strategy. We discuss how VC trends are evolving, the rise of M&A and SaaS consolidation, and how lean, AI-powered startups are replacing...
EP293 | The Hidden Friction Killing Your Growth: Ramli John's Playbook for B2B Onboarding Success 19.06.2025 37:14
Today on the show we have Ramli John, founder of Delight Path and author of Product-Led Onboarding and the upcoming book Eureka. In this episode, Ramli shares why activation and onboarding are some of the most overlooked yet impactful levers for reducing churn, and how early-stage friction, especially emotional and social, can silently kill growth. We dive deep into what he calls the “Hierarchy of...
E292 | How AI Is Rewriting the Customer Success Playbook: Lessons from 600+ CS Teams 11.06.2025 43:45
Today on the show we have Jamie Davidson, the CEO and Co-Founder, and Kelley Turner, the SVP of Global Customer Success at Vitally. In this episode, Jamie and Kelley share their experience in helping over 600 companies scale customer success operations through Vitally’s platform. We then discussed how AI is reshaping CS workflows—from reducing manual data entry to enriching conversations with acti...
E291 | From Champagne Problems to Category Creation: The Rise of Paddle’s Merchant of Record Play with Andrew Davies 28.05.2025 42:15
Today on the show we have Andrew Davies, the CMO of Paddle. In this episode, Andrew shares his experience tackling the "champagne problems" that SaaS companies face as they scale globally. We then discussed how Paddle repositioned itself through the merchant of record model and brought a legacy concept back into the spotlight. We wrapped up by discussing the company's strategic phas...
E290 | From PLG Pains to AI Gains: Rethinking Retention with Ryan Seams of AssemblyAI 15.05.2025 35:15
Today on the show we have Ryan Seams, the Head of Customer Success at AssemblyAI. In this episode, Ryan shares his experience transitioning from Deloitte to the fast-paced world of startups, where he spent nearly a decade at Mixpanel scaling customer success and navigating product analytics. We then discussed the evolution of pricing models — from events-based to monthly tracked users and back ag...
E289 | How AppsFlyer Uses AI to Build Superhuman CS Teams with Ziv Peled 02.05.2025 41:16
Today on the show we have Ziv Peled, the Chief Customer Officer of AppsFlyer. In this episode, Ziv shares his experience using AI to radically improve customer success performance. We then discussed the shift from product expertise to growth partnership and wrapped up by exploring how AI is changing internal team dynamics and go-to-market strategies. Mentioned Resources AppsFlyer Matik.io
E288 | How AI Is Transforming Customer Success with Sivan More of HiBob 25.04.2025 43:25
Today on the show we have Sivan More, the VP of Customer Success at HiBob, an HR tech company driving company culture and employee engagement. In this episode, Sivan shares her experience in the evolution of customer success and how it has transformed over the years. We then discussed the role of AI and personalization in enhancing customer journeys, and we wrapped up by diving into how to build s...
E287 | From CAC Recovery to Higher ACVs: The Power of Upfront Payments with Miguel Fernandez Larrea 16.04.2025 30:46
Today on the show we have Miguel Fernandez Larrea, the CEO and Co-founder of Capchase. In this episode, Miguel shares his experience helping B2B vendors recover customer acquisition costs faster and increase deal sizes through flexible payment terms. We then discussed the enterprise sales motion behind Capchase Pay, how Miguel’s team drives adoption across sales, finance, and rev ops, and how thei...
E286 | Humanizing Feedback: Hark’s Vision for Customer-Generated Content with Fran Brzyski 03.04.2025 37:55
Today on the show, we have Fran Brzyski, CEO and co-founder of Hark, a platform that helps brands build loyalty and achieve efficient growth through customer-generated content. In this episode, Fran shares insights into transforming customer feedback by leveraging the power of video and audio. He discusses the importance of capturing customer intent, the challenges of shifting from traditional fee...
E285 | Betting on Yourself: Wistia’s Bold Pivot From Video Hosting to a Multi-product Platform with Chris Savage 27.03.2025 45:02
Today on the show, we have Chris Savage, CEO and co-founder of Wistia, a leading video marketing platform. In this episode, Chris shares insights from Wistia’s journey—from a video hosting platform to a comprehensive suite of video tools. He discusses the impact of COVID on video adoption, how Wistia navigated major strategic shifts, and why betting on yourself is often the best investment. We als...
E284 | Optimizing Payments for Growth and Retention with Paddle's Lucas Lovell 21.03.2025 38:33
Today on the show, we have Lucas Lovell, VP of Product at Paddle, a comprehensive payments and billing platform that helps businesses streamline transactions, reduce churn, and scale globally. In this episode, Lucas shares his insights on the critical role payments play in churn reduction and strategies like smart payment retries, network tokenization, and local payment methods to maximize revenue...
E283 | AI Powered Growth: How Reddit and Ramp Are Winning with Guillaume Cabane 12.03.2025 37:26
Today on the show, we have Guillaume Cabane, Co-Founder and General Partner at Hypergrowth Partners. G has helped scale some of the fastest-growing B2B companies, including Ramp, Retool, Vercel, Reddit, and more. In this episode, we dive deep into how AI is fundamentally changing growth strategies, making outbound sales more efficient, and reshaping how companies think about customer acquisition....
E282 | Navigating Early-Stage Growth: Churn, Retention, & Customer Success at Pylon 26.02.2025 33:19
Today on the show we have Advith Chelikani, the Co-founder and CTO of Pylon. In this episode, Advith shares his journey from engineer to co-founder and how Pylon is redefining B2B customer support. We then discussed the role of product velocity in driving retention, the challenges of scaling customer success at an early-stage startup, and why founders should stay close to customers for as long as...
E281 | The Foundational Laws of Retention That Haven’t Changed in the AI Era with Brian Balfour 12.02.2025 44:07
Today on the show, we have Brian Balfour, the Founder and CEO of Reforge and former VP of Growth at HubSpot. In this episode, Brian shares his perspective on the foundational laws of retention that remain unchanged, even as AI continues to transform the way we build and grow products. We then discussed why many AI products are struggling with high churn, the role of natural usage frequency in prod...
E280 | Reinventing Go-To-Market: Lessons from Agorapulse’s Upmarket Expansion with Emeric Ernoult 05.02.2025 47:50
Today on the show we have Emeric Ernoult, the Founder and CEO of Agorapulse. In this episode, Emeric shares his experience navigating Agorapulse’s bold pivot from serving SMBs to targeting mid-market and enterprise clients. We then discussed the challenges of combating endemic churn, why moving upmarket was critical for growth, and the lessons learned from multiple pivots along the way. We wrapped...
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