Block & Order

Eric Swartz, Founding General Partner and General Counsel at Panther Hollow Ventures, joins Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz to break down the future of institutional finance on-chain. Eric reveals how Panther Hollow’s unique “closed loop” investment strategy is reshaping the market, and discusses the upcoming Canton accelerator designed to foster the next wave of blockchain innovation. The conversat...

Adam Sternbach, VP of Legal at Yuma AI, joins Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz to explore the rapidly evolving intersection of AI, blockchain infrastructure, and decentralized systems. Adam explains how Yuma AI and the Bittensor network are building decentralized systems for AI training, inference, and autonomous applications, while exploring why crypto and AI are becoming increasingly connected tech...

Wei Chen, Chief Legal Officer at Infoblox and Founder of the Atticus Project, joins hosts Kyle and Moish to explore agentic systems and how AI is transforming legal workflows, internet infrastructure, and global regulation. She breaks down how AI is evolving from prompt-based tools to autonomous agents, and why foundational systems like DNS are key to maintaining an open, scalable digital ecosyste...

How can businesses effectively manage compliance and risk as digital asset adoption accelerates? Adrian Wall of Digital Sovereignty Alliance joins Block & Order hosts Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz to provide a comprehensive overview of the regulatory landscape and its implications for organizations operating in crypto. With a focus on scalability and long-term resilience, Adrian explains how c...

What does it really take for businesses to add Bitcoin to their balance sheets, and why does it matter now more than ever? Brandon Karpeles, CEO of Sovereign, sits down with Block & Order hosts Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz to unpack the practical realities of adopting Bitcoin in the world of business. Brandon discusses why Bitcoin should become a staple on company balance sheets and how busin...

In this insightful episode, Lee Schneider, General Counsel at Ava Labs (the company behind Avalanche), joins hosts Kyle and Moish to explore how blockchain companies balance innovation with compliance, global regulatory alignment, the importance of token classification, and the future of financial infrastructure. Lee shares insights from his work bridging regulators and builders, the role of custo...

In this insightful episode, Zack Shapiro, Founder of Raines LLP and recognized thought leader in AI and law, joins hosts Kyle and Moish for a revealing discussion on how artificial intelligence is transforming the legal profession. They explore how new AI tools are transforming workflows, the rise of "cloud-native" law practices, and why judgment and decision-making skills remain crucial...

In this episode of Block & Order, Kyle and Moish welcome Mark DiMichael, Partner at Citrin Cooperman in the Valuation and Forensic Services Group and founder of the firm’s Digital Assets practice, for a conversation on crypto forensics and blockchain investigations. Mark explains how forensic accountants trace cryptocurrency across wallets, exchanges, and the blockchain to uncover hidden asset...

In this episode of Block & Order, Kyle and Moish welcome Ben Gray, Chief Legal Officer at Kraken, for a deep dive into the legal, regulatory, and technological challenges facing major crypto exchanges today. Ben shares insights on how Kraken navigates global regulatory frameworks, adapting to new legislation like the Clarity Act and GENIUS Act, and how Kraken embraces AI to optimize legal and...

In this episode of Block & Order, Kyle and Moish are joined by Steven Baum, Managing Director at CBIZ and co-leader of its Digital Assets & Blockchain practice, to unpack crypto auditing and financial reporting. Steven explains why blockchain assets may actually be easier to audit than cash and how crypto companies are maturing into IPO-ready businesses. The conversation covers regulatory...

In this episode, Kyle and Moish sit down with Carlo D'Angelo, defense attorney turned stablecoin consultant, to explore stablecoins and how the GENIUS Act is reshaping payments, banking, and U.S. financial leadership. Carlo explains why stablecoins may succeed where crypto previously stalled, how treasury-backed digital dollars could strengthen the dollar globally, and why banks must adapt—or...

In this episode, Kyle and Moish talk with Jennie Levin, the Chief Legal and Operating Officer of the Algorand Foundation, about the evolving regulatory climate that is reshaping tokenization, stablecoins, and institutional adoption. Jennie explains how Algorand’s architecture supports real-world assets and global payments, why the foundation is re-embracing the U.S. market, and how builders can na...

In this Election Day edition of Block and Order, Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz kick off with SEC Chair Atkins’ proposed “innovation exemption,” a sandbox-style framework meant to move crypto oversight from ad hoc enforcement to formal rulemaking—now stalled amid the government shutdown. They unpack Kalshi’s lawsuit against New York’s Gaming Commission and what it reveals about the ongoing tension...

In this episode of Block and Order, Kyle and Moish chat with valuation expert Neil Thakur of Teknos Associates to unpack the art—and science—of figuring out crypto value. Neil shares what it’s like helping projects all over the world figure out what their digital assets are worth, from the early days with Ripple to the rise of big institutions in the space, and how things like regulation, tax, and...

Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz kick off this episode of Block and Order with a look at the growing rivalry between the SEC and CFTC, and what their latest moves could mean for the crypto industry and everyone building in it. They dig into NASDAQ’s headline-making push for tokenized stocks, unpack what tokenization really means, and discuss whether it’s the next big thing or just the latest buzzword...

We're back! Hosts Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz break down the SEC’s bold Project Crypto speech and what it means for U.S. blockchain leadership, examine the surprising end of the SEC vs. Ripple case, and discuss what’s next now that legal clarity is (sort of) here. The duo also unpacks the latest court decision on NFT trademarks (Yuga Labs v. Ryder Ripps), debates Trump’s push to allow crypt...

Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz kick off this episode of Block and Order by discussing Bitcoin’s historic run to new highs and the persistent “it’s too expensive” sentiment. They also tackle Robinhood’s controversial tokenized stocks and OpenAI’s denial of association with its stock tokens, highlighting the challenges of clear labeling in digital asset markets and its importance for investors. The c...

In this episode of Block & Order, hosts Kyle and Moish sit down with Bill Barhydt, CEO of Abra, for a wide-ranging conversation about the future of crypto. They dive into how individuals and companies are thinking about Bitcoin custody, what it means to treat Bitcoin as a balance sheet asset, and the latest around regulation. Bill shares his take on why fiduciary-grade custody matters, how sta...

In this episode of Block & Order, hosts Kyle and Moish sit down with Kristin Smith, president of the Solana Policy Institute, to talk about what’s really happening with crypto policy in Washington, D.C. Kristen shares behind-the-scenes insights on bipartisan efforts to shape upcoming legislation, the challenges of getting lawmakers up to speed on digital assets, and how SPI is championing Sola...

In this episode of Block and Order, hosts Kyle and Moish chat with Matt McClintock, founder of Bespoke Group, about estate planning, wealth preservation, and asset protection in the world of Bitcoin and digital assets. Drawing from his experience with ultra-high-net-worth clients, Matt offers a blend of practical insights and philosophical reflections on topics like digital custody, shifting regul...

In this episode of Block and Order, hosts Kyle and Moish dive into their experience at the massive Bitcoin 2025 conference in Las Vegas and break down the latest shakeups in the crypto legal world. They unpack major stories like the Coinbase customer data breach, the Ripple vs. SEC settlement controversy, and the surprising sale of CryptoPunks IP to a nonprofit. The conversation also covers class...

In this episode of Block and Order, hosts Kyle and Moish chat with professors Kara Bruce, Chris Odinet, and Andrea Tosato about how bankruptcy law fits into the world of crypto and DAOs. They break down the unique legal challenges these decentralized groups face when things go south financially, why legal structure really matters, and how traditional bankruptcy rules do—or don’t—apply in the Web3...

In this episode of Block and Order, hosts Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz break down major developments in the crypto space, including a proposed bill that could shift regulatory oversight from the SEC to the CFTC, New Hampshire’s move to allow state crypto investments, and a court ruling that challenges Apple’s control over NFT and crypto payments in the App Store. They also cover recent legal acti...

On this episode of Block and Order, Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz chat with Kelley Weaver, the CEO of Melrose PR, about all things crypto, PR, and how the media landscape is shifting. Kelley talks about how she got into crypto public relations, what it’s like working with both crypto-native and traditional reporters, and why strong relationships are everything in this fast-paced industry. They als...

In this episode of Block and Order, Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz share their takeaways from a whirlwind trip to Washington D.C. for the Digital Chamber Blockchain Summit. They talk about the growing bipartisan push to bring clearer rules to the crypto world—and what that could mean moving forward. The conversation heats up with Rippling’s wild corporate espionage lawsuit against Deel, plus a look...