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Politics with Michelle Grattan
The Conversation's Chief Political Correspondent Michelle Grattan talks politics with politicians and experts, from Capital Hill.
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Alan Kohler says Labor's tax changes probably won't lower house prices 05.05.2026 22:50
The finance journalist says changes to capital gains tax concessions and negative gearing are only likely to have a 'symbolic effect' on housing affordability. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly. The Making of One Nation Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
Antony Green on how Farrer's 'breakout' by-election will make history 29.04.2026 39:26
One of the frontrunners in the historic by-election, independent Michelle Milthorpe, as well as One Nation MP Barnaby Joyce, also joined us on the podcast. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly. The Making of One Nation
Former minister Ed Husic on why Labor must 'stare down' gas companies over tax 21.04.2026 29:43
The former cabinet minister said Australians have been 'sold short' by not taxing gas exports enough. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
Economist Chris Richardson on next steps in fuel crisis 16.04.2026 24:34
We speak to independent economist Chris Richardson on the fuel crisis and the Australian economy. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly. The Making of One Nation
The Making of One Nation: enter the outside 01.04.2026 26:03
Nearly thirty years on, Hanson's infamous maiden speech — warning that Australia was "being swamped by Asians" — still echoes through Australian political life. But who was Pauline Hanson before she became a phenomenon, and what did she actually represent? Was she a cause of a new kind of politics, or a symptom of one already forming? Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-pro...
Rory Medcalf on Australians' growing national security fears 23.03.2026 29:44
The security expert says there's been a 'disturbing' rise in Australians' anxiety about national security over the past two years. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation
Farrer by-election tests One Nation 16.03.2026 1:03:32
Ahead of the May 9 by-election, hear from candidates and locals about the early frontrunners to win Farrer – long held by former Liberal leader Sussan Ley. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation
RBA Deputy's inflation warning 10.03.2026 33:55
The Reserve Bank's Andrew Hauser told The Conversation's podcast inflation is likely to be higher than projected before the war in the Middle East broke out. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
South Australian election special 05.03.2026 45:38
Labor is expected to be returned in power in a landslide. But the election is also the first test of One Nation's ability to turn its surging popularity into seats. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
Geoffrey Watson backs calls for royal commission on CFMEU scandal 25.02.2026 31:32
The anti-corruption expert says Victoria's Labor government was willing to 'deal with the devil' on its Big Build projects – at the cost of 'bad governing'. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation
New Liberal deputy Jane Hume on industrial relations, child care and a decade in politics 19.02.2026 36:14
The newly installed Liberal deputy leader talks about the turnaround in her fortunes, the spectre of WorkChoices, and why she doesn't believe in quotas for women. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation
Tony Barry on why a new Liberal leader isn't a quick fix 10.02.2026 25:27
What do Australians in focus groups say about the Liberal Party right now? "They just kind of laugh," the former Liberal staffer turned pollster says. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation
Barnaby Joyce on getting on with Pauline Hanson and One Nation's rise 04.02.2026 36:15
Joyce says 'I'm not going to be wearing a burqa' like the One Nation leader – but his relationship with her is stronger than his 'bitter' end with the Nationals. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
Jonno Duniam on the 'frenzy' over hate speech laws and the Coalition split 28.01.2026 34:25
The Liberal senator says 'social media influencers' have falsely 'whipped up a frenzy' of misinformation about new hate speech laws limiting freedom of speech. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
The Making of an Autocrat: co-opt the military 04.01.2026 19:48
In November, six Democratic lawmakers recorded a video directed at members of the US military and intelligence agencies. In it, they issued a blunt reminder: "The laws are clear: you can refuse illegal orders. […] You must refuse illegal orders." The lawmakers were issuing the warning against the backdrop of US airstrikes on boats off the coast of Latin America the Trump administration claims are...
The Making of an Autocrat: suppress the people 04.01.2026 16:25
The list of people Donald Trump has punished or threatened to punish since returning to office is long. It includes the likes of James Comey, Letitia James, John Bolton, as well as members of the opposition, such as Adam Schiff, Mark Kelly and Kamala Harris. In fact, he has gone so far as to call Democrats “the enemy from within”, saying they are more dangerous than US adversaries like Russia and...
The Making of an Autocrat: beat the courts 28.12.2025 18:30
In democratic systems, the courts are a vital check on a leader’s power. They have the ability to overturn laws and, in Donald Trump’s case, the executive orders he has relied on to achieve his goals. Since taking office, Trump has targeted the judiciary with a vengeance. He has attacked what he has called “radical left judges” and is accused of ignoring or evading court orders. The Supreme Court...
The Making of an Autocrat: manufacture a crisis 28.12.2025 15:45
Donald Trump has sounded the alarm, over and over again, that the United States is facing an “invasion” by dangerous gang members. He blames immigrants for the country’s economic problems and claims protesters are destroying US cities. Trump is not the first would-be autocrat to manufacture a crisis to seize extraordinary powers. As Natasha Lindstaedt, an expert in authoritarian regimes at the Uni...
The Making of an Autocrat: recruit an architect 28.12.2025 17:30
Every autocrat needs a clan of loyalists, strategists, masterminds – these are the figures behind the scenes pulling the strings. They’re unelected and unaccountable, yet they wield a huge amount of power. This is the role Stephen Miller has played for Donald Trump – he is the architect in chief for the second Trump administration. He has so much power, in fact, he’s reportedly referred to as the...
The Making of an Autocrat: hijack a party 28.12.2025 18:31
We used to have a pretty clear idea of what an autocrat was. History is full of examples: Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, along with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping today. The list goes on. So, where does Donald Trump fit in? In this six-part podcast series, The Making of an Autocrat, we are asking six experts on authoritarianism and US politics to explain how exactly an autocrat is made –...
The Making of an Autocrat, coming soon 21.12.2025 1:45
We used to have a pretty clear idea of what an autocrat was. History is full of examples: Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, along with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping today. The list goes on. So, where does Donald Trump fit in? In this six-part podcast series, The Making of an Autocrat, we ask six experts on authoritarianism and US politics to explain how exactly an autocrat is made – and whe...
Politics with Michelle Grattan: Jim Chalmers on the Bondi terror attack and the mid-year budget update 17.12.2025 24:43
The treasurer says the government needs to do more on several fronts: from fighting antisemitism after Sunday's deadly attack, to cracking down on illegal tobacco. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
Sarah Hanson-Young on the social media ban as a risky 'fake silver bullet' 08.12.2025 37:20
The Greens' senator says she's worried kids will end up 'in other online spaces that are even darker and more dangerous' – and Australia should act on other options. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of an Autocrat Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s...
Tim Ayres on the AI rollout's looming 'bumps and glitches' 03.12.2025 24:19
The industry minister denied Australia's adopting a 'light-touch' approach on AI – and says he's working to make sure data centres are 'not a drain on resources'. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of an Autocrat Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre...
Sussan Ley on Barnaby's defection and how the environment law deal 'fell apart' 27.11.2025 24:16
Ley says the Opposition was negotiating on the new environment laws with the government into early Thursday – just before Labor announced a deal with the Greens. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of an Autocrat Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-...
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