He Said, Son Said

What happens when college athletes have the talent, discipline, and determination to succeed beyond their sport, but don't always have access to the opportunities that could help them get there? College athletes spend years developing skills that employers value: leadership, resilience, accountability, teamwork, strategic thinking, and the ability to perform under pressure. They're accustomed to d...

Four minutes. That's all that separated David Williams from continuing his race at IRONMAN 70.3 Augusta. David is a husband, father, and endurance athlete living with Parkinson's disease. After his diagnosis, he began transforming his health, fitness, and outlook on life, eventually setting his sights on completing a half-Ironman. In this final installment of our three-part series, David returns t...

What does success look like when you've already built a career, raised a family, and accomplished many of the things you set out to do? For Fraser “Fray” Van Asch, the answer looks a little different today than it did 27 years ago. Fray spent 34 years helping shape the media industry, including being part of the early digital revolution at Raleigh's News & Observer and Nando Media. Long before...

For Episode 28, Matt and Nash go On Their Turf at Millbrook High School to spend a Friday night with senior sports broadcaster Nathan Kretchmer — not just talking about broadcasting, but seeing the place where Nathan has been learning how to do it. They walk the field, climb the stairs to the booth, see the view Nathan sees on game nights, and hear what goes into being ready when the mic goes live...

What happens when you put two fathers, two sons, and one larger-than-life personality in the same room? You get laughter, a little chaos, unexpected stories, and a conversation about love that stays with you long after it's over. In Episode 27 of He Said, Son Said , Matt and Nash sit down with Larry Long Jr. and his son, Trey, for a conversation about sports, fatherhood, family, and the lessons we...

For every kid running onto a field or court, there’s usually a parent somewhere behind them — driving, scheduling, paying, cheering, worrying, and trying to figure out whether they’re doing any of it right. In this On Their Turf episode, Matt sits down at the Hayes Barton Baptist Church gym with longtime friend and fellow sports parent Kathryn Youngs. Kathryn’s son Austin started with soccer, foun...

David Williams is four weeks away from attempting an Ironman 70.3. And he has Parkinson’s. In Part Two of our conversation, David talks about what that actually means. What happens when his right leg stops working in the water. Why he swims almost entirely with his upper body. What Parkinson’s feels like when he runs. And then there was the day he got into open water and couldn't do it. He got out...

At 51, David Williams weighed 284 pounds. He had type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure and high cholesterol, and was sleeping with a CPAP machine. At first, David started making small changes. Then came the moment when enough was enough. He changed the way he ate. He started walking. Then running. A first 5K turned into more miles. Eventually, David ran a marathon. Then he decided to become a triat...

What happens when sports stop being something you do and start becoming part of how you measure your own value? In Episode 23 of He Said, Son Said , Matt sits down with KJ Hill at ReCity in Durham, North Carolina, for a conversation about sports, identity, youth athletics, fatherhood, coaching, leadership, trust, and what it really means to win. KJ grew up immersed in sports: soccer, basketball, b...

What happens when the sport you grew up in, the place your parents built, and the thing you once considered walking away from becomes the thing you choose for yourself? For Episode 22, Matt and Nash go On Their Turf at Triangle’s Best Karate with Stephen Robinson and his son, JJ. Karate has been part of the Robinson family for decades. Stephen and his wife, Cyndy, met as competitors, built the doj...

James Davis lost his sight later in life. A few years ago, he found golf. It started with one good shot. Then another. Before long, once a month wasn’t enough. But James doesn’t play alone. His coach, Kevin, helps line him up, reads the course and gives James information he can’t see for himself. And that raises a bigger question: How can you accept help and still own the outcome? It’s a question...

In Part One of our conversation with Hassan Pinto, we talked about where sports took him. In Part Two, the conversation shifts. This time, we talk about family, parenting, sacrifice, and what happens when the kids you’ve spent years raising start becoming adults. Hassan shares how soccer became a meeting point for his family, why he tried to be intentional about the environment his kids grew up in...

Former NFL offensive lineman Mike McGlynn and former collegiate volleyball player and coach Sam Amaral sit down with Matt for a conversation that starts with sports — and quickly becomes about everything sports can teach us about life. Mike takes us from growing up in Youngstown, Ohio, through setbacks in high school, college football and the NFL, before sharing what happened when the game he had...

What if one small moment could change the direction of your entire life? For Hassan Pinto, it started in a backyard. He and his older brother were kicking around a basketball because they didn't own a soccer ball. Their dad came home, saw what they were doing, tossed a soccer ball over the fence and said: “Kick that.” Neither of them could have known where that ball would eventually take him. In P...

What happens when the child you've spent years teaching becomes someone you begin learning from? For Tim and Marisa Ridgeway, sports became the language that shaped a lifetime of conversations. What started with a father coaching his daughter grew into golf rounds, long car rides, spirited football debates, and eventually Marisa launching her own sports podcast. But somewhere along the way, someth...

When does helping become holding on too tightly? In this episode of He Said, Son Said , Matt and Nash sit down with Rex and Sadie Miller for a conversation that begins with tennis but quickly becomes something much bigger. Together, they explore what it means to parent, coach, and support someone you love without trying to control their journey. It's an honest discussion about trust, communication...

What does it really mean to build confidence? In the premiere episode of On Their Turf , a new documentary-style series from He Said, Son Said , Matt and Nash step into the gym with coach and trainer Ashanti Robinson , expecting to talk about fitness. Instead, they discover a powerful conversation about confidence, coaching, fatherhood, leadership, and the legacy we leave through the lives we infl...

When we started He Said, Son Said , we thought we were creating a sports podcast. Fourteen episodes later, we've realized it's become something much bigger. In this special episode, we take you behind the scenes to share what we've learned, reflect on the conversations that have shaped us, and explain why the show is evolving. Along the way, we talk about our favorite guests, what goes into produc...

He left home at 15 to chase his dream. What he found was a calling far greater than the game. When Matt and Nash sat down with Pedro Henrique Verissimo , they expected a conversation about soccer. What they discovered was a story about courage, purpose, family, faith, and the unexpected paths that shape our lives. Pedro shares what it was like growing up in Brazil as the son of a professional socc...

In Episode 12 of He Said, Son Said , Matt sits down with Tommy Jones—former University of Michigan football player, mentor, coach, and founder of Growth4Life—for a conversation that starts with football but quickly becomes about something much bigger. Tommy shares the journey that shaped his life, from relentlessly pursuing his dream of playing at Michigan to dedicating his career to helping young...

Father's Day gave us a reason to hit pause and reflect on something bigger than scores, standings, and championships. In this special episode of He Said, Son Said , Matt and Nash talk about the sports memories that shaped their relationship—from meeting sports heroes and attending unforgettable games to the lessons learned through winning, losing, and growing up together. They discuss: Their favor...

After a two-month hiatus and a quick turnaround from Episode 9, Matt and Nash are back behind the mic for a father-son catch-up session. The duo reflects on the last 90 days, including Matt's knee replacement recovery, Nash's journey through basketball, driving, and finding joy in the things that matter most. They also share key takeaways from their recent conversation with Brayleigh and Christiaa...

After a two-month hiatus, He Said, Son Said is back with one of our favorite conversations yet. This week, we sit down with 8th-grade multi-sport athlete Brayleigh and her dad, Christiaan, to talk about sports, faith, leadership, pressure, and the lessons that shape young athletes both on and off the field. Brayleigh shares her journey from basketball manager to team captain, how she balances bask...

In this episode of He Said, Son Said , Matt and Nash are joined by George and William Linney for a conversation centered around growth, discipline, and the unique bond between a father and son through sports. William shares his journey of becoming a scratch golfer during COVID—what started as extra time turned into a relentless pursuit of improvement. From daily routines to breakthrough moments, h...

The brackets are about to drop and the madness is in the air. In this episode of He Said, Son Said , Matt and Nash break down the excitement of Selection Sunday and dive into some classic tournament debates. 🏀 Two Takes, Five Picks – The greatest Cinderella runs in March Madness history 🎯 Shots in the Dark – Teams that could win it all 🔥 Start • Bench • Cut – Tough tournament decisions 👨‍👦 Fa...