Center for a New American Security
Derisky Business
“Derisky Business” is a show that explores economic security issues within the broader national security and foreign policy landscape. Hosts Emily Kilcrease and Geoffrey Gertz dive into the weeds on issues like export controls, tariffs, and trade, linking these issues to broader debates on how to advance U.S. global economic leadership during times of geopolitical turbulence. Listen for new episodes bi-weekly, and check out other podcasts from the Center for a New American Security at cnas.org/connect/podcasts. This podcast is supported in part by Amazon and by general support to the CNAS Ener...
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Careers in Economic Security with Michèle Flournoy and John Hughes 31.10.2024 40:45
Emily and Geoff tackle some of the most common questions on starting and building a career in the field of economic security, with the help of Michèle Flournoy, former Under Secretary of Defense as well as the co-founder and current Chair of the Board of the Center for a New American Security, and John Hughes, a partner at the strategic advisory firm DGA Group and a CNAS Adjunct Senior Fellow. Che...
BONUS: Comparing China Sanctions Under Trump and Biden 24.10.2024 17:43
Join Emily Kilcrease and researcher Eleanor Hume to discuss the latest edition of CNAS's Sanctions by the Numbers series, examining how the U.S.'s sanctions policy on China has shifted under the Biden administration. Find the full report and its findings here: Sanctions by the Numbers: Comparing the Trump and Biden Administrations’ Sanctions and Export Controls on China
U.S. Chip Controls and the Future of AI Compute 17.10.2024 1:07:08
That escalated quickly! Emily and Geoff discuss why the U.S. aim to deny China access to the computing power necessary for frontier AI capabilities has led to an ever expanding set of new export controls. They are joined by Reed Albergotti of Semafor to talk about what this means for the Middle East's tech ambitions and by Pablo Chavez to share his analysis on the drive for sovereign AI around the...
Europe’s Take on Economic Security with EU Ambassador to the U.S. Jovita Neliupšienė 03.10.2024 41:45
Ambassador Jovita Neliupšienė, the European Union's Ambassador to the United States, joins Emily and Geoff for a wide-ranging conversation on Europe's growing role as a economic statecraft power, the importance of the transatlantic alliance in addressing the strategic challenges posed by Russia and China, and why all Americans should drink champagne Ambassador Neliupšienė recommends listeners tune...
How ASML Came to Dominate Chipmaking 19.09.2024 1:01:10
NRC Media reporter Marc Hijink joined co-host Emily Kilcrease at a CNAS event to discuss his book, Focus: The ASML Way. For decades, ASML - the most valuable technology company in Europe - operated in the shadows, despite the fact that roughly 90 percent of all chips worldwide are made with ASML’s machines. In recent years, the Dutch manufacturing company has found itself at the center of a geopol...
Geopolitical doomscrolling 05.09.2024 1:02:36
Geoff and Emily talk about the tensions between social media platforms and governments around the world, including Telegram’s troubles in France and X’s spats with Brazil and Europe. Carrie Cordero, CNAS General Counsel and Robert M. Gates Senior Fellow, joins to talk TikTok and why it’s so complicated to ban the app in the United States. Carrie Cordero is the Robert M. Gates Senior Fellow and G...
Economic Security in Asia Part 3: The View From Australia with Mike Green 22.08.2024 53:39
On this international episode of Derisky Business, recorded at the United States Studies Center in Sydney, Australia, Dr. Mike Green joins the podcast to discuss how Australia and other Pacific countries view economic security issues, what countries in the region think about the U.S. presidential election, and how he is preparing for armageddon. Mike’s Recommended Reading/Listening: Planning Armag...
Economic Security in Asia Part 2: The Pivot to Asia with Richard Fontaine 08.08.2024 47:00
Richard Fontaine, CEO of the Center for a New American Security, joins Emily and Geoff to discuss his new book, co-authored with Robert Blackwill, Lost Decade: The US Pivot to Asia and the Rise of Chinese Power, and his fever dreams for a trade agreement in Asia. Richard Fontaine is the Chief Executive Officer of the Center for a New American Security. Prior to coming to CNAS, he was foreign pol...
Economic Security in Asia Part 1: China's growing pains with Dan Rosen 25.07.2024 56:49
Dan Rosen, leading expert on China's economy and head of the Rhodium Group's China practice, joins Emily and Geoff to talk about the recently concluded third plenum meetings in China, what China's economy wants to be when it grows up, and the impacts of China's economic downturn on U.S.-China relations. Emily Kilcrease is senior fellow and program director in the Energy, Economics, & Security...
What a Bunch of Malarkey! 11.07.2024 1:01:03
Emily and Geoff discuss the U.S. presidential election and what that might mean for economic security policy. They get into trade policy, what both candidates would do to compete with China, and where U.S. partners and allies fit in to both candidates' vision. Emily Kilcrease is senior fellow and program director in the Energy, Economics, & Security Program at the CNAS. Her research focuses...
BONUS | How U.S.-China Competition Upended the International Economic Order and What the United States Can Do to Fix It 03.07.2024 1:00:09
On June 26, CNAS hosted an event to discuss a new report, Disorderly Conduct: How U.S.-China Competition Upended the International Economic Order and What the United States Can Do to Fix It. Report authors shared key findings and recommendations on how to delineate a new economic strategic framework toward China that serves both the security and commercial interests of the United States. The conve...
How to regulate smart, not dumb, with Alan Estevez. 27.06.2024 1:00:00
This week, Under Secretary of Commerce Alan Estevez joins Derisky Business to talk tech competition with China, how Russia can still get western chips, and why our cars might all be spying on us. Emily Kilcrease is senior fellow and program director in the Energy, Economics, & Security Program at the CNAS. Her research focuses on economic statecraft and economic security. Geoff Gertz is seni...
The Biden Administration's Economic Security Agenda with Daleep Singh 13.06.2024 41:13
On this special live-recorded episode from the 2024 CNAS National Security Conference, Emily Kilcrease talks with Daleep Singh, Deputy National Security Advisor for International Economics, about what to expect from the G7 leaders' summit, using frozen Russian assets to finance Ukraine's resistance, the role of sanctions in targeting China's material support to Russia, and China's broader geoecono...
Everyone Loves Tariffs! 30.05.2024 38:16
Welcome to Derisky Business! On this episode, we discuss the Biden Administration’s recent tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, batteries, solar panels, and other goods. Diving into the arguments for and against tariffs, the episode explores the reasoning behind targeting these specific goods and the implications on domestic and international markets. Looking ahead, we analyze what new and old ta...
Welcome to Derisky Business 26.05.2024 1:21
This is Derisky Business, a new podcast from the Center for a New American Security that explores economic security issues within the broader national security and foreign policy. Hosts Emily Kilcrease, director of the energy, economics and security program at CNAS, and Geoff Gertz, senior fellow on the energy, economics and security team, will answer questions like: Do sanctions against Russia w...
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