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Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, July 11 14.07.2025 1:47:14
In a live conversation on July 11, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Scott Anderson, Anna Bower and Roger Parloff to discuss the Supreme Court’s ruling in Trump v. AFGE, which allows for the mass terminations of federal employees, what happened in the multiple hearings in the criminal and civil cases involvi...
Lawfare Archive: Julian Mortenson on 'The Executive Power' 13.07.2025 50:40
From April 12, 2019: Julian Mortenson, Professor of Law at the University of Michigan, is the author of a remarkable new article entitled "Article II Vests Executive Power, Not the Royal Prerogative," forthcoming in the Columbia Law Review and available on SSRN. Recently, Benjamin Wittes spoke with the professor about the article, which Mortenson has been working on for years—as long a...
Lawfare Archive: Juliette Kayyem on the Baltimore Bridge Collapse and Crisis Management 12.07.2025 41:56
From April 9, 2024: In the early morning on March 26, a Singapore-flagged cargo ship crashed into Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge. The bridge collapsed, resulting in the death of six of the eight individuals conducting maintenance on the bridge. The incident has disrupted commuter traffic and the transport of hazardous materials, and it has halted shipping traffic at the Port of Baltimore, am...
Lawfare Daily: Bribery and the Second Trump Administration with John Keller 11.07.2025 58:43
John Keller, now a partner at Walden, Macht, Haran, & Williams, channeled his experience as the former chief of the Public Integrity Section at the Department of Justice to talk about bribery with James Pearce, Lawfare Legal Fellow. After explaining the basics of bribery law and whether a current or former president could face a bribery prosecution, Keller analyzed whether three episodes...
Lawfare Daily, Bonus Edition: Unpacking the July 7 Hearing for Kilmar Abrego Garcia 10.07.2025 39:02
On July 8, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down for a bonus edition of Lawfare Live with Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower and Roger Parloff to discuss Kilmar Abrego Garcia's July 7 hearing in federal court in Greenbelt, Maryland. To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at www.patreon.com/lawfare . You can also support Lawfare ...
Scaling Laws: Ethan Mollick: Navigating the Uncertainty of AI Development 10.07.2025 1:06:21
Ethan Mollick, Professor of Management and author of the “One Useful Thing” Substack , joins Kevin Frazier, the AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare , and Alan Rozenshtein, Associate Professor at Minnesota Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare , to analyze the latest research in AI adoption, specifically its use by professionals an...
Rational Security: The “Game Changers” Edition 09.07.2025 1:15:30
This week, Scott sat down with fellow Senior Editors Molly Reynolds and Alan Rozenshtein to talk through the week’s big national security news, including: “One Bill to rule them all, One Bill to find them, One Bill to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.” Republicans in Congress narrowly enacted President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill” last week, just in advance of the July 4 deadline h...
Lawfare Daily: The Double Black Box: Ashley Deeks on National Security AI 09.07.2025 55:44
Lawfare Senior Editor Alan Rozenshtein sits down with Ashley Deeks, the Class of 1948 Professor of Scholarly Research in Law at the University of Virginia School of Law, to discuss her new book, “ The Double Black Box: National Security, Artificial Intelligence, and the Struggle for Democratic Accountability .” They talk about the core metaphor of the book: the idea that the use of artif...
Lawfare Daily: Michael Feinberg on Leaving the FBI 08.07.2025 53:22
Until late May, Michael Feinberg was a senior FBI counterintelligence agent focused on China. All that changed one weekend, when the Deputy FBI Director found out that he was still friends with a former FBI official who had been fired years ago. In his first interview following his essay, “ Goodbye to All That ,” in Lawfare last week. Feinberg sat down with Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes...
Lawfare Daily: The Offensive Cyber Industry and U.S.-China Relations with Winnona Bernsen 07.07.2025 40:19
Winnona Bernsen, nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Cyber Statecraft Initiative and founder of DistrictCon , joins Lawfare Contributing Editor Justin Sherman to discuss her recently released report " Crash (Exploit) and Burn: Securing the Offensive Cyber Supply Chain to Counter China in Cyberspace ." They discuss the offensive cyber industry, the private sector and indiv...
Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, July 5 06.07.2025 1:40:22
In a live conversation on July 3, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Legal Fellow James Pearce and Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower and Roger Parloff to discuss updates in the civil and criminal cases of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a D.C. district court judge's injunction against the Trump administration’s invasion proclamation, attacks on...
Lawfare Archive: Itsiq Benizri on the EU AI Act 05.07.2025 43:54
From February 16, 2024: The EU has finally agreed to its AI Act. Despite the political agreement reached in December 2023, some nations maintained some reservations about the text, making it uncertain whether there was a final agreement or not. They recently reached an agreement on the technical text, moving the process closer to a successful conclusion. The challenge now will be effective impleme...
Lawfare Archive: Mike Johnson’s National Security Agenda 04.07.2025 49:42
From November 7, 2023: You probably already know that Rep. Mike Johnson is the new Speaker of the House. What you may not know is that every single one of the issues on his plate is a national security issue, at least in the short term. Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editor and Brookings Senior Fellow Molly Reynolds to talk it all throu...
Lawfare Daily: Teun Janssen on Ukraine and a Big Europe 03.07.2025 51:41
Teun Jansenn is a staff member at the European Parliament who works on issues of EU expansion and support for Ukraine. He joined Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes to talk about the prospects of Europe's stepping up for Ukraine as the United States backs away. He also talked about why EU enlargement is essential to getting EU governance under control and the role that Ukraine might play in that proce...
Lawfare Daily: Civil-Military Relations in the Trump Administration 02.07.2025 43:10
For today's episode, Lawfare Foreign Policy Editor Daniel Byman interviews Lindsay Cohn, an associate professor at the Naval War College and Columbia University, to discuss the Trump administration's handling of the U.S. military. Cohn discusses the firings of senior military officials, military parades, and the use of the U.S. military at the U.S-Mexico border and in Los Angeles....
Lawfare Daily: Prosecuting the Sahel's War Influencers with Lindsay Freeman 01.07.2025 43:38
On today’s episode, Lawfare Managing Editor Tyler McBrien sits down with Lindsay Freeman, Director of Technology, Law & Policy at the Human Rights Center, UC Berkeley School of Law, to discuss her recent Lawfare article, “War Crimes for Fun and Profit. ” They talk about how and why so-called war influencers linked to private military companies such as the Wag...
Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, June 27 30.06.2025 1:51:09
In a live conversation on June 27, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Legal Fellow James Pearce and Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower and Roger Parloff to discuss the Supreme Court’s ruling on nationwide injunctions in the birthright citizenship case, the whistleblower complaint about Emil Bove’s actions as deputy attorney...
Lawfare Archive: Steve Vladeck on Emergency Powers and Coronavirus 29.06.2025 54:35
From March 19, 2020: What can the president do in a national emergency? What limits what the president can do? What authorizes the president to do all those things he can do in a national emergency? Is the president abusing, misusing, using appropriately, or under-using emergency powers during the coronavirus crisis? And what are the logical end points for how far this could go? For this bonus edi...
Lawfare Archive: Natan Sachs on Israeli Anti-solutionism 28.06.2025 27:09
From December 5, 2015: The show this week features Natan Sachs , a Fellow in Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution, who recently published an article in Foreign Affairs on anti-solutionism as strategy in the Israel-Palestine conflict. During his conversation with Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Ben Wittes, Sachs argues that the apparent absence of a long-term...
Lawfare Daily: Ukraine-Russia Negotiations with Eric Ciaramella and Samuel Charap 27.06.2025 1:08:15
Lawfare Legal Fellow Mykhailo Soldatenko sits down with Eric Ciaramella, Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Samuel Charap, Senior Political Scientist at Rand Corporation, to discuss the key issues in the Ukraine-Russia talks. They chat about the national interests of the interested parties, whether a negotiated settlement is possible, and what form a potentia...
Rational Security: The “Pronghorn Shirt Daily” Edition 26.06.2025 1:18:09
This week, Scott sat down with his Lawfare colleagues Benjamin Wittes and Natalie Orpett, and University of Virginia School of Law professor Ashley Deeks, to talk through the week’s big national security news, including: “Bracing for Fallout.” In a surprise move, President Trump joined Israel’s military campaign against Iran over the weekend, using a specialized U.S. ordinance to hit Iranian nucle...
Lawfare Daily: ‘Ransom War’ with Max Smeets 26.06.2025 53:06
Max Smeets, Co-Director of Virtual Routes and Senior Researcher at ETH Zurich, joins Lawfare ’s Jonathan Cedarbaum and Justin Sherman to discuss his recently released book “ Ransom War: How Cybercrime Became a Threat to National Security .” They discuss the history of ransomware (including the term itself), how the threats have evolved over the years, and some of the major drivers of innovati...
Lawfare Daily: A Right to Warn: Protecting AI Whistleblowers with Charlie Bullock 25.06.2025 41:11
In the wake of controversy over OpenAI’s restrictive nondisclosure agreements, a bipartisan group of senators has introduced the AI Whistleblower Protection Act. In this episode, Lawfare Research Director Alan Rozenshtein spoke with Charlie Bullock, Senior Research Fellow at the Institute for Law & AI and co-author of a new Lawfare article on the bill, about its key provisions. The...
Lawfare Daily: U.S. Strikes on Iranian Nuclear Facilities 24.06.2025 59:34
In a live conversation on June 23 , Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes spoke to Lawfare Senior Editor Scott Anderson, Lawfare Foreign Policy Editor and CSIS fellow Daniel Byman, and Vice President and Director of Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution Suzanne Maloney about the American attacks on Iranian nuclear sites, what the reaction within Iran has...
Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, June 20 23.06.2025 1:34:12
In a live conversation on June 20, Lawfare Executive Editor Natalie Orpett sat down with Lawfare Legal Fellow James Pearce and Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower, Scott Anderson, and Roger Parloff to discuss the litigation over President Trump federalizing the California National Guard to send them to L.A., the the order for the release of Mahmoud Kha...
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