4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

When you've been hurt or let down, or when you've failed over and over, it's easy to be way too hard on yourself and others. Maybe you've struggled to forgive yourself if you've blown it, or you can't forgive others if they have.  But my friend, there's hope! The gospel is anchored in grace, which means you can forgive others AND be gentle with yourself. Today on the 4:13 , author and pastor Micah...

Do you ever feel like the problems in our world are just too big for you to make a difference?  Well, today on the 4:13 , former Ohio governor and presidential candidate John Kasich will tell you why that's simply not true! Drawing from his own faith journey and years of public service, John shares how faith communities have incredible potential to bring hope and healing—even in a divided culture....

Do you ever feel paralyzed when making decisions—especially when it's one that's really important? You just want to be sure you're making the right choice. But how do you know? And what if you're wrong? Oh friend, I get it! Decision-making can be overwhelming, especially when paired with lots of uncertainty. But today, you're going to learn that you can make faithful, God-honoring decisions, regar...

Have you ever wrestled with doubt and wondered if it meant your faith was slipping away? You're not alone! When we find ourselves torn between faith and uncertainty, it's easy to feel disappointed, disillusioned, and distant from God.  But what if doubt isn't a threat to your faith? What if it's an invitation to a deeper relationship with God? Today on the 4:13 , Niki Hardy will help you shift you...

Does it ever seem like your thoughts have a mind of their own? Persistent negative thinking, anxiety spirals, or lingering offenses can quickly take over if you don't know how to stop them. But here's the good news—you can take control of your thoughts, and God has already given you the tools to do it. Pastor Kyle Idleman joins me on the 4:13 and shares how brain science and Scripture agree that w...

Have you ever noticed that even when your body is still, your mind is still racing? Worry, distractions, and endless to-do lists often crowd out the quiet we long for—and can make prayer feel impossible.  But what if there was a way to experience both peace in your mind and presence in prayer? In this episode, author Jennifer Tucker invites us into the practice of meditation— Christian meditation...

In a world that's hyper-focused on hustle and productivity, many of us have been taught that our worth is tied to what we do. But what if being is more valuable than doing ?  Today on the 4:13 , Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith—physician, spiritual mentor, and coach—shares how to embrace a life rooted not in performance but in stillness, rest, and your God-given identity. With warmth and wisdom, she offer...

Life has a way of throwing us into seasons we never saw coming—career changes, shifting relationships, or even that vague sense that what used to work just doesn't anymore. In these moments, it's easy to feel disoriented, like success is slipping further and further out of reach.  But what if these unsettling moments are actually fertile ground for something beautiful? Today on the 4:13 , Levi Lus...

Wouldn't you like to not only understand God's Word, but also let it transform you by the power of the Holy Spirit? Oh friend, me too!  So today, we have Pastor Dan Jacobsen with us, and he is going to unpack how this is possible. But first, you should know there's something really special about this… Years ago, Dan unearthed an unpublished manuscript tucked away in a dusty manila folder that belo...

In the fast-paced, overly scheduled cadence of our culture, it can be hard to fit in Sabbath. But what if Sabbath isn't designed to fit into our busy lives? What if it's supposed to take over our lives? Hebrew scholar and Old Testament professor Travis West is here to help you radically reimagine what it means to Sabbath! And contrary to popular belief, it's not just about taking a day off or crea...

Conflict. Division. Disagreements. Whether it's with a neighbor, a co-worker, a friend—or even a stranger—navigating relationships isn't always easy. Yet somehow, we're called to love our neighbor.  But what does that even mean? And how does it show up when relationships are so complicated? Well, on this episode of the 4:13 , author and Bible teacher Jada Edwards will challenge you to rethink what...

In a noisy, fast-paced world, quiet can feel out of reach—like it's a luxury reserved only for the super-spiritual, the ultra-disciplined, or those with endless free time. But quiet is, and always has been, at the heart of every single person, and it's essential to our spiritual life and growth. So today on the 4:13 , author Sarah Clarkson is back with a powerful reminder: quiet is not about the a...

Do you ever feel intimidated when reading the Bible on your own? You're not alone. Many of us want a deeper connection with God's Word but find ourselves relying on devotionals or simply reading for information, without letting it truly change us. Well today, The Navigators' very own Bill Mowry will help you shift that mindset.  He shares five powerful practices to help you encounter God every tim...

We're all just trying to get through life in this messed-up world, and whether we realize it or not, we all go looking for a "fix" to help us cope with the pain, uncertainties, or difficulties we face.  Sometimes those fixes seem harmless, and other times, they spiral into habits we can't break. So, today on the 4:13 , best-selling author, psychotherapist, and Enneagram expert Ian Morgan Cron will...

Lots of believers have questions about the Holy Spirit—like who is He? And should I "feel" Him? Does the Holy Spirit show up today like He did in the Bible? And why do other believers seem to have a connection with the Holy Spirit, and I don't? Well, if you've ever wondered these things, you're not alone—and you're in the right place. Today on the 4:13 , Margaret Feinberg will take you on a journe...

Everyone longs for love—especially God's love—even if they don't realize it yet. So, why is it so hard to tell others about the love of God?  For many of us, sharing the gospel can be intimidating! We often feel inadequate, afraid, or just unsure of what to say. But today, we're facing those fears head-on!  Dr. Derwin Gray joins us on the 4:13 and teaches us how to share the gospel—without pressur...

I cannot wait for you to hear this today! Whitney Capps and the incredible ladies of Point of Grace joined me at a Fresh Grounded Faith event in Springfield, Missouri, and let me tell you, there was something extra special about this day. Maybe it was because Whitney brought such raw honesty while in the middle of cancer treatments. Or maybe it was the sweet friendship and humility that Point of G...

A recent study found that over 40 million adults grapple with some form of anxiety or worry. Chances are, this includes you or someone you love. But don't we all find ourselves worrying from time to time? I know I do! So, what's really causing our worry, and how do we know when our legitimate concerns cross the line into worry? Well, today on the 4:13 , Pastor Jonny Ardavanis gets honest about the...

Get ready to laugh, learn, and maybe even tear up a little as we spill the beans LIVE from a Fresh Grounded Faith event in Bloomington, Illinois! My good friends Margaret Feinberg and Michael O'Brien joined me, and what an honest, hope-filled conversation we had in answering questions from the audience. We talked about the best way to handle stress and worry, how to know if God is calling you to s...

In this episode of the 4:13 , we're heading back across the pond to chat with Rev. Chris Lee—an English vicar whose sixty-second sermons on Instagram have resonated with millions of people around the world.  Why? Because with all of the constant noise and distractions that keep us from entering the presence of God, his sermons are a timely invitation to pause, breathe, and remember who you are bef...

Today on the 4:13 , bestselling author and beloved mentor Sally Clarkson will show you how God's grace empowers you to write a beautiful story with your life. With rich insights and heartfelt guidance, Sally shares what it means to lead a life well-lived. She'll help you discern what truly matters and give you practical ways to cultivate joy, step out in faith, and influence the world around you—e...

The storms of life can leave you feeling weary and weak. So how do you keep going when there seems to be no end to the storms that hit? Well today, author and pastor Justin Kendrick will teach you how to build spiritual resilience in the face of hardship. He'll start by reframing your understanding of suffering through a biblical lens as well as unpack how an accurate view of God and His love can...

Most of us are so used to notifications and alerts, pings and rings that even if we don't want to be on our phones so much, we don't know how to change it. Yet the constant flow of information is actually harming our brains, relationships, and emotional well-being, even if we don't realize it. Today's guest, author and podcaster Carlos Whittaker, made a radical decision to disconnect from screens...

Forgiveness is one of the hardest choices we face—but it's also one of the most powerful. Today's guest, author Debbie Barr, reveals how forgiving others isn't just an act of obedience to God—it's a gift to ourselves. Many people don't realize this, but we pay a high price to our overall health when we cling to resentment, bitterness, and thoughts of revenge. So, through a blend of science, psycho...

Have you ever heard of FOMO? It's the "fear of missing out," and it's something we all experience in different seasons for different reasons. But what if you're not missing out at all? What if—even if you're not quite where you want to be—you're exactly where you're supposed to be? In this episode, Meghan Ryan Asbury will help you see that the life you have is the life you actually want. She'll eq...