With The Perrys

Y’all love a “storytime” episode and it’s been a while since the Perrys recorded one. The Perrys cover a wide range of topics, from legalism and the idea of “sinless perfection” to stories about identity, “hood” dynamics, and pretending to be someone you’re not. Jackie and Preston discuss the theology of justification and sanctification as they remember meeting someone during a stop on a poetry to...

We hear a lot about people experiencing “father wounds” but what about those who carry heartache, anger or sorrow because of a wounding mother? When Dr. Sarita Lyons joined Jackie for the Glory Conference in 2023, an attendee asked about navigating difficult relationships with mothers. Feeling burdened by the Holy Spirit after that interaction and many conversations that followed it, Dr. Sarita ha...

People say, “We’re more divided than ever before,” but are we okay with that, or are we going to do something about it? Are we normalizing division and disrespecting God by not prioritizing something He does? Jackie and Preston are joined by Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez for a conversation on fighting for unity in the church. Unity does not mean erasing differences to have complete uniformity – that...

We have to think about what we’re thinking about. Go back and read that again. Our thought life as Christ followers matters. It’s important we remain vigilant to identify and uproot the lies we’re believing, and to do that continually in community with the power of the Holy Spirit. This is part two of a conversation on the battlefield of the mind. If you missed The Work of Mind Renewal, go back an...

Jackie and Preston are back with new episodes, and they’re kicking things off with a two-part conversation on the battlefield of the mind. Our minds have a lot to say, all the time. What we think about – and ultimately what we believe because of those thoughts – will dictate the way we behave, communicate, and relate to one another. What does it look like to “train” your mind and take every though...

To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience. What do you do when faith feels hard, when you’re wrestling with doubt, unanswered prayers, or disappointment with God? Jackie, Preston, and a number of their podcast...

To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience. In this Deep Dive, Jackie and Preston revisit conversations they’ve had together (and with some guests, too) about parenting. This episode discusses building simple r...

To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience.  In this Deep Dive, Jackie and Preston discuss understanding what the gospel actually is, sharing your faith with wisdom and love, talking to family members who...

With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Jackie and Preston's relationship has had plenty of twists and turns. From long distance dating to a group trip to the Caribbean, things didn't get off to a smooth start. Jackie broke things off...twice. Preston admits he had a lot to learn about leading well, and together they look back on what they'd do...

With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past.  Jackie and Preston sit down with mentors and friends CD and Melody Fabien to talk about what it really looks like to fight for intimacy in marriage. They unpack some of the habits and rhythms that quietly create distance, the importance of healthy communication, and why it's so easy to start building...

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode discusses suicidal ideation. With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Brenna Blain is a wife, mom, and theologian who talks honestly about faith, suffering, and mental health. Brenna shares her story of running from God, eventually finding herself in YWAM, and later navigating a bipolar diagnosis, psych ward stays, a...

Nobody “deconstructs” from Christianity in a day. Deconstruction is not an immediate decision but a process in which someone questions, dissects and assesses what they believe. But what some people are calling deconstruction is actually heresy and false teaching. There’s a thoughtful and Biblical way to evaluate your faith, so let’s talk about it. Pastor Jerome Gay, Jr. joins the Perrys to discuss...

From public scandals to private betrayals that never make the news, experiencing the failure of a leader is both heartbreaking and disorienting. When someone leads a church community or is esteemed as a hero, the fallout of their failure is felt even more.  Lisa Fields joins Jackie and Preston for an honest conversation about leadership betrayal. They discuss what healthy admiration looks like, ho...

Earlier this month, Jackie found herself at the center of a Threads post that generated a whole lot of conversation. It got her and Preston thinking about the opposition we face as Christians because of a worldview that is confusing to unbelievers. NOTE: For most of us, the persecution we face is social in nature – that’s different from persecution others face around the world when they risk their...

A stronghold is an untruth that has lodged itself in our brains and keeps out the knowledge of God. Shame can be a stronghold if we are believing something that is literally not the truth – about God, ourselves, or others. So really, shame and the gospel can’t co-exist peacefully. You could even say that shame is anti-gospel.  Jackie and Preston discuss how the gospel – the good news that we are f...

We all go through seasons where we have little desire for God. We don’t really want to pray, and reading our Bible doesn’t sound exciting. Being honest about not wanting God isn’t unbelief, but it may uncover areas of our life where we’re believing a lie or not dealing with sin. There are so many things in life that compete for our affections, but God will meet us in our insufficiency and invites...

When you hyper-focus on what you think you lack, you aren’t practicing gratitude, and you can become discontent. When you covet what someone else has, you will start to believe that God is withholding something good from you. That means our discontentment is not about our life circumstances but about the state of our hearts.  Melissa Kruger joins the Perrys to talk about a book Jackie stumbled upo...

Y’all love a Q&A episode, so the Perrys asked Instagram followers to submit questions to help guide the topics of conversation. Jackie kicks things off with a “storytime” moment about an unforgettable (and not in a great way) evangelism experience, and then they dive into the questions. How do you deal with insecurity as a man? Should you only date someone who is spiritually at the same pace as yo...

The Perrys are joined by Melissa and Mike Kruger to discuss their new book “The Good News Family Devotional: 52 Weeks Through the Gospel of Mark.” Mark is fast-paced and story-centric, which makes it an ideal book to study alongside your kids. The Kruegers and Perrys discuss navigating discipleship with kids in different stages, helping children move beyond surface-level observation questions, and...

When we’re “born again” as Christ followers, we’re babies, and “growing up” is a choice. But emotions, pride, and an endless buffet of online voices can keep new believers spiritually stuck. In this episode, Jackie and Preston discuss how spiritual maturity isn’t automatic, nor is it a checklist. We become mature by pursuing humility, having discernment about false doctrine, and establishing deep...

The second half of the Perrys’ conversation with Matt Chandler is a deeper discussion of the Beatitudes of Matthew 5. For example, the Bible says, “Blessed are those who mourn,” but what are we to mourn, and how do we mourn well? Matt explains that we mourn our own sin, and we grieve the broken world around us. Comfort is found in the hard work of mourning, and the consequence of not mourning is d...

After more than two decades leading a church – and through his own faith journey, too – Pastor Matt Chandler says confidently that, “Come what may, God is at work.”  In this conversation on sanctification, Matt, Jackie and Preston explore the Beatitudes of Matthew 5, not as a checklist of spiritual goals but a portrait of a person Jesus is creating as we mature in Christ. The Christian life isn’t...

Trip Lee is an author, teacher, and hip-hop artist who recently released new worship music titled “For Your Glory.” He joins Jackie and Preston for a conversation about worship music, rap music, and the importance of music in our lives as followers of Jesus.  Music plays a major role in spiritual formation – singing truth helps us remember and believe what is true about God. Worship is not just th...

Sex is a living metaphor. It’s how we experience oneness with the person we’ve committed to be in a covenant relationship with, similar to the relationship between Christ and the church. Dr. Juli Slattery joins the Perrys to discuss the importance of seeing sex as an ongoing journey of intimacy, not just a physical act, requiring emotional vulnerability and communication.  The Perrys’ conversation...

Dr. Crawford Loritts joins the Perrys for a conversation about leadership and the qualities that make someone worth following. True leadership is stewardship and sacrifice. Someone’s ability to lead is in direct proportion to their ability to serve. A good leader has conviction, not just knowledge, with wisdom that's the product of experience, not simply exposure to information. And Dr. Loritts ta...