In Conversation with Janina Fisher: Wisdom Between Colleagues; Insights For Us All

In this engaging and heartfelt conversation, Janina Fisher, PhD is joined by Tiff Kopp and Clayre Sessoms, senior facilitators of Trauma-Informed Stabilization Treatment (TIST) in Vancouver. Together, they explore what it really means to meet trauma with curiosity instead of control — and how TIST helps clients build safety, connection, and self-compassion without retraumatization. From their root...

In this lively and deeply reflective conversation, Janina Fisher, PhD and Bessel van der Kolk, MD revisit their decades-long friendship and parallel journeys through the emergence of modern trauma therapy. From their early research days in Boston to the global impact of The Body Keeps the Score, they explore how far the field has come—and how much there still is to learn. Together, they trace the...

In this rich and deeply personal episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher: Wisdom Between Colleagues—Insights for Us All , Dr. Janina Fisher is joined by Rui Cang, LMFT , a Los Angeles–based psychotherapist, TIST facilitator, and Sensory Motor Psychotherapy practitioner whose clinical expertise is grounded in her own lived experience as a Chinese-born immigrant and bicultural therapist. Toget...

In this thoughtful and provocative episode, Janina Fisher, PhD, sits down with Wendy D’Andrea, PhD —research psychologist, clinician, and Chief Scientific Officer of the Trauma Research Foundation—to explore a timely and often misunderstood question in the world of psychotherapy: Who gets to define what healing looks like—and who is left out of the conversation? Wendy and Janina unpack the persist...

In this tender and richly insightful episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher: Wisdom Between Colleagues—Insights for Us All , Janina Fisher, PhD, welcomes friend, longtime collaborator, and trauma expert Lana Epstein, MSW, MA, LICSW. Together, they reflect on their 30-year journey as clinicians, supervisors, teachers—and kindred spirits working to understand the nuances of healing trauma. Fr...

In this powerful and deeply personal conversation, Janina Fisher, PhD, sits down with longtime friend and colleague Benjamin Fry , founder of the internationally renowned Khiron Clinics in the UK. What unfolds is a moving reflection on Fry’s descent into despair, his search for healing, and how his lived experience ultimately gave birth to a trauma treatment model that has helped countless others...

In this profoundly moving and deeply relevant episode of I n Conversation with Janina Fisher: Wisdom Between Colleagues—Insights for Us All , Janina Fisher, PhD, welcomes trauma therapist, TIST facilitator, and activist Jon Lee, LMFT (they/them), for an honest and layered conversation about working with trans and autistic clients—especially in a world where the threats they face are not just histo...

In this episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher: Wisdom Between Colleagues—Insights for Us All , Janina Fisher, PhD, sits down with longtime friend, collaborator, and trauma therapist Lisa Ferentz, LCSW-C, DAPA , for a spirited, heartfelt, and refreshingly honest conversation on the art of psychotherapy. Together, they explore what it means to truly work in an integrative, client-centered wa...

In this engaging and heartfelt episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher: Wisdom Between Colleagues—Insights for Us All, Janina Fisher, PhD, is joined by psychiatrist, author, and trauma specialist Frank Anderson, MD for a wide-ranging conversation that is both clinically insightful and deeply personal. With over three decades in the field of trauma and dissociation, Frank reflects on his evol...

In this powerful first episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher: Wisdom Between Colleagues—Insights for Us All , Janina Fisher, PhD, is joined by longtime friend and colleague Ruth Cohn, MFT , for a deeply moving exploration of one of the most overlooked forms of trauma: neglect. Ruth shares the origins of her groundbreaking work on neglect—what she calls “the trauma of nothing”—and invites l...

In Conversation with Janina Fisher features intimate, unscripted dialogues between Dr. Janina Fisher and leading voices in trauma therapy. Each episode explores the nuances of healing—from attachment wounds and somatics to IFS, memory reconsolidation, and anti-oppressive care. Thoughtful, relational, and deeply human, these conversations offer insight and inspiration for clinicians and curious min...