Diabolical Lies

Earlier this month, Katie made a major announcement about her brand Money with Katie: In 2026, she will buy back her intellectual property rights and equity from Morning Brew, shutter the podcast for the indefinite future, take full ownership of the weekly newsletter, and return to her roots as a writer. This is a massive decision, to say the least, with major financial and spiritual implications...

A “point, counterpoint”-style deep dive into the double-sided coin of “ethical consumption” and “ethical salesmanship” (or its alternative, “selling out”) under that little thing we call “capitalism,” sponsored by our treasured economic partners in the Saudi Royal Family. “ Is There REALLY No Ethical Consumption Under Capitalism? ” from Clotheshorse with Amanda Lee McCarty (2024) “ This feminist t...

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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com As with all bonus conversations, this episode breaks from the regular format of this show and operates instead like an homage to how it started—sending impassioned voice memos back and forth. Enjoy. * snaps into character to method-act as Tyra Banks * We were all rooting for you.

Today’s conversation is a deep dive into the alliance between the neoliberal economic consensus and the social conservative movement in the late twentieth century—as told through the lens of a right-wing podcaster telling men they shouldn’t get married unless they’re capable of financially supporting a submissive wife and entire brood of children singlehandedly. This is a public episode. If you'd...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com As promised, here’s a brief follow-up conversation on the Kirk of it all: one half news updates, and one half cultural analysis on the ongoing political fallout from Kirk’s murder.

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com Charlie Kirk “practiced politics the right way.” He was “a controversial and polarizing figure, but that doesn’t matter.” His “sort of dialogue is what universities are supposed to foster.” In the wake of Kirk’s murder, these are the sentiments that have been echoed repeatedly in op-eds written for our nation’s...

The Democratic Party’s approval rating is at a 30-year-low , and Americans rated them no better than the GOP at their ability to “manage the federal government effectively” or “bring about the changes this country needs.” A pretty damning indictment, considering the GOP is currently disassembling the government with a rusty hacksaw while wearing furry BDSM blindfolds. In the wake of running (and l...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com Taylor Swift recently confirmed the imminent arrival of her 12th studio album, Life of a Showgirl. Over the course of a single fateful podcast interview, a new musical era wasn’t ushered through our cultural door so much as it kicked down the door entirely, machine guns blazing, screaming at us to drop to our k...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this (bonus) conversation… Ever wondered why Bari Weiss is constantly creeping around the perimeters of the conversations we have on this podcast? Well, folks, today’s the day to understand.

In this conversation… Who could’ve foreseen when we started this podcast nearly one year ago to discuss the Times of London Ballerina Farm profile that today we’d be publishing a two-hour episode about the most stereotypically “controversial” geopolitical “dispute” in modern history? There’s one thing you’ll hear repeatedly in conversations about what’s happening in Gaza: It’s complicated . Or, yo...

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In this conversation… It’s the grassroots sensation sweeping the internet and, by extension, the culture—proof that conservative values are mainstream, conservative women are hot, and their rapidly proliferating attendant movement is finally overpowering the excesses of liberalism. “We aren’t running from culture anymore,” as Alex Clark put it, “We’re running it .” They’re courageous enough to sta...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com When Sabrina Carpenter shared the album cover for her highly anticipated seventh studio album, Man’s Best Friend, the internet suffered an algorithmic nosebleed . An extremely high-stakes cultural debate unfolded: Was the photo (and correspondingly, her entire vibe ) supposed to be funny? A form of edgy politic...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this (bonus) conversation… Reporting live from the basement where Annie Lowrey is chained to a radiator while a six-foot-tall sentient copy of Abundance holds a gun to her head, Caro & Katie review four pieces in major newspapers and magazines that were published in the days leading up to the New York City m...

In this conversation… SkinnyTok is full of contradictions: You’ll hear you need to work hard to lose weight so you can be effortlessly chic; you’ll discover a world of corporeal obsession in which attaining a “hot body” is the ultimate form of pleasure. So why does it all feel so sterile? This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… In 2015, Caro took a politics course at the University of Virginia called “Sex Differences.” This is her story. *law and order theme music*

In this conversation… Six years and five Trump press secretaries ago, The Guardian reported that, thanks to Trump’s ceaseless tweeting, the press secretary position had become “redundant,” an anachronism from a quainter era of politics when presidents didn’t preside like mad kings over their own social media platforms. So what should we make of Karoline Leavitt and the role she’s performing in thi...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… Over the last several months, the policy agenda of the pro-natalist right has become startlingly clear. What’s much less clear, though, is how the left plans to counter such red-pilled pro-baby and pro-family rhetoric—or if the left even wants to counter this rhetoric.

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… Katie & Caro answer questions from our paid subscriber chat of Dirty Little Liars, like: * Who would be your dream guest on Diabolical Lies (if you ever get over your narcissistic obsession with being the only two people yapping)? * Are you actually joining DSA (Democratic Socialists of Am...

In this conversation… It’s the best system we’ve tried so far! It’s just human nature! It’s the force that drives innovation! …or is it? What if capitalism isn’t pushing us forward anymore, but holding us back from the future that we could have? Diabolical Lies investigates. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.di...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… You asked, we answered. Today we’re talking about the latest, greatest moral panic of our time: Are trans athletes ruining women’…

In this conversation… The “MAHA Moms” insist their healthy living movement is all about “the children,” who you’ll quickly learn are being “poisoned” by all the “toxic” ingredients in our food supply or corrupted by the crooked doctors in our medical system. But which kids is this really for? This episode is a Tour de Grift that explores some of the most notable figureheads, their claims, and how...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… What does it mean to “run the government like a business” in America today? In today’s episode, we scrutinize the fetishization of “efficiency” and the American businessman, the role this valorization played in the ascendancy of our current “leaders,” and what everyone’s getting wrong abou...

In this conversation… Let’s get spicy, y’all! Today, we’re talking about the politics of consensual sex work, through the lens of a recent, extremely viral documentary that covered sex worker and OnlyFans influencer Lily Phillips’s 100-men-in-a-day sex stunt. If you haven’t watched the documentary yet, we’ve embedded it in this post for your easy viewing pleasure. And yes, this documentary is safe...