Un-holier Than Thou Podcast

In this moving in-person episode of the Unholier Podcast , guest host David Keck continues the conversation with Jenny Smith. In Part 2, Jenny explores the complex intersection of family life and the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) church, reflecting on how the rigid expectations of the ministry influenced her father’s approach to parenting. Jenny shares deeply personal memories, including t...

In this incredibly raw and unfiltered episode of the UnHolier Podcast, host Jennifer sits down with retired U.S. Navy Chief Troy Ulshoeffer (Founder of Vines and Valor and Co-Founder of Change Unchained). Troy’s story isn’t just about military service; it’s about the terrifying moment your entire reality—religion, politics, and identity—collapses at once. Troy opens up about the "TikTok rabbi...

Was the Zodiac Hidden in the Bible? Gilgamesh, Jesus, Paul, and Suppressed Star Knowledge (Holier Podcast) On the Unholier podcast, the host interviews Indy, and author and researcher about alleged links between the Bible, the Zodiac, ancient texts like the Epic of Gilgamesh, and historical sources such as Josephus, arguing that biblical language and symbols (e.g., “Mazzaroth,” the star of the wis...

Jennifer and Kristin Watson, both raised in the IFB/IFB cult environment, discuss the extreme control and purity culture placed on girls—no voice or autonomy but full responsibility for men’s “stumbling”—and how that created impossible standards and identity loss. Kristin explains being taught she was sinful from birth and believing she was “evil” after leaving, then slowly rebuilding her identity...

DID PAUL STEAL THE GOSPEL? 😱 | The Unholier Podcast Is the Christianity you know based on Jesus... or a Roman cover-up? This week on The Unholier Podcast , Jenny sits down with Paul from RealGoodNews.org for an explosive conversation that dismantles 2,000 years of church tradition. If you’ve ever felt like the "Red Letters" of Jesus don’t match the rest of the Bible, this episode is you...

Host Jenny Smith & Guest Host from Surviving-ISH Podcast David Keck introduce Kirsten, a psychic medium and healer who owns Revive Wellness Spa & Studio in Flushing, Michigan, and discuss her appearances on the Un-Holier podcast. Kirsten explains that everyone has intuition, how to distinguish gut guidance from ego-based fear, and how dreams can bring guidance, including premonitions, colo...

"He was sexually abusing me while casting demons out of me. That is a chapter in my book." 💔 In one of the most raw and courageous episodes of the Unholier Podcast, host Jenny sits down with Heather Ford, author of The Barbie Pink Wall that Kept My Secrets . Heather isn’t just a survivor; she is a witness to the dark side of "Deliverance" culture within evangelical cults. Heat...

Unfiltered Year in Review: Co-Host Drama, False Police Report & Why Unholier Kept Going (1-Year Anniversary) Host Jenny Smith celebrates the one-year anniversary of the Unholier podcast with producer and friend David Keck, reflecting on the highs, lows, and lessons of the past 12 months. They discuss backlash to Jenny’s first episode about her IFB upbringing, arranged and abusive marriage, and...

In this episode of the Unholier Podcast, we sit down with Jordan, a survivor of the notorious Spring Creek Lodge Academy. From January 2007 to December 2008, Jordan lived behind magnet-locked doors, enduring a system of "intervention" (solitary confinement), fake schooling, and the constant threat of being shipped to Tranquility Bay in Jamaica. Jordan pulls back the curtain on the Troubl...

Jenny Smith hosts a lighthearted Un Holier Podcast episode with Brittany Racine from the Might Get Loud Podcast about “culty” social norms that aren’t technically cults. They joke about being pulled into the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City fandom and discuss cult-like dynamics in hustle culture and burnout, work-life balance guilt, survival-mode productivity, and diet/wellness trends like detoxe...

Unholier Podcast: The Valentine’s Day Survival Guide – Love Languages & Better Dates! Is Valentine’s Day a Hallmark holiday or a vital day for romance? In this special bonus episode of the Unholier Podcast , the host and her husband pull back the curtain on their own relationship to discuss all things love. From debating the true significance of February 14th to a deep dive into the five love...

Welcome to the Un Holier Podcast, where we delve into the beliefs that shaped us and explore the spiritual gray areas we were taught to avoid. In today's episode, Kirsten, a psychic medium, joins us to discuss what happens when we die, how loved ones may still contact us, and what exists beyond the physical world. Discover the difference between psychics and mediums, learn about grounding, an...

In this gripping episode of the End Holier podcast, host Jenny Smith sits down with Jeremy Paskell, who shares his harrowing experience of growing up in a cult led by Ariel Ben Sherman during the 1980s and 1990s. From dealing with extreme control and fear to ultimately finding freedom, Jeremy's story is a testament to resilience. Now a mural artist and author, Jeremy discusses how he transfor...

In this eye-opening episode of the Un Holier Podcast, host Jenny Smith engages in a candid conversation with her best friend Chrissy about the often overlooked topic of gluttony within church culture. From the abundant potlucks in Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) churches to the broader implications of overconsumption in our daily lives, Jenny and Chrissy explore how gluttony extends beyond f...

In this episode of the Un Holier Podcast , host Jenny Smith sits down with Luke Roberts (known to many as LJR ) for a raw and vulnerable conversation about the cost of losing your faith—and the beauty of finding yourself. Luke spent years at the front of the sanctuary as a worship leader, but behind the scenes, the foundation of his evangelical upbringing was cracking. Today, he shares the intimat...

In this episode of the Un Holier Podcast, hosts Jenny Smith and Bible expert Justin dive deep into the complexities and controversies surrounding Bible translations, with a special focus on the King James Version (KJV). They explore the historical context, common translation errors, and hidden agendas in the creation of the KJV. Justin provides a comprehensive presentation on why newer translation...

Welcome to a very special episode of the Un Holier Podcast . To kick off 2026, I’m joined by my favorite guest—my husband! Together, we’re taking a trip down memory lane to revisit our most hilarious (and slightly embarrassing) New Year’s Eve moments. But it’s not all just laughs. We’re getting real about our 2026 resolutions , from the bad habits we’re finally ditching to the realistic goals we’r...

Have you ever felt trapped by religion? In this raw and unfiltered interview, we sit down with JC Groves , a brave pastor who escaped the clutches of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement. From a life of strict religious indoctrination to a powerful spiritual awakening, JC’s story will challenge everything you think you know about faith. We'll uncover the secrets of the IFB'...

In this episode, the host welcomes Jenny as she shares her harrowing journey growing up in the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement. Jenny's story details her family's deep roots in IFB, the strict and oppressive rules she faced, and the challenges of living under a legalistic and controlling environment. She recounts traumatic experiences, including a public shaming at youth c...

Did the Church RUIN Her Life?! 😱 Author Catherine Brusk Reveals the TRUTH About Growing Up Christian | Unholier Podcast In this explosive episode, host Jenny Smith sits down with bestselling author Catherine Brusk to peel back the curtain on her tumultuous religious past. Catherine holds NOTHING BACK as she details the jarring whiplash of attending a strict Christian school while navigating a mor...

In this deeply personal and uncomfortable episode, hosts David and Jenny address a serious issue affecting the Troubled Teen Industry (TTI) community. They reveal that a former podcast guest has been embellishing their survival story to gain attention and scam community members, particularly vulnerable women, out of money. Despite the sensitive nature of the topic, David and Jenny provide insights...

In this episode of the Un Holier Podcast, host Jenny Smith sits down with Tabitha, a survivor of the troubled teen industry who spent time at Tranquility Bay in Jamaica. Tabitha shares her journey of growth and resilience, discussing her mixed emotions about the recent hurricane that hit Jamaica and the lasting impact of her experiences. The episode highlights Tabitha's impressive efforts in...

In a special episode of the Un Holier Podcast, host Jenny Smith is joined by her husband, Ryan (aka Smitty), to discuss their vastly different upbringings. Jenny was raised in a religious environment while Ryan wasn't exposed to church at all. They share personal stories, delve into the challenges and growth in their marriage, and discuss their experiences with various church environments. Th...

In this emotionally charged episode of The Holier podcast, host Jenny Smith sits down with Justin Woodbury, an old friend from their days in the Christian school. Justin opens up about his harrowing experiences within the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Church, specifically the Ann Arbor Baptist Church in Michigan. Through a candid conversation, Justin shares the deeply disturbing events of...

🚨  A 'PREACHER BOY,' NOW HE'S EXPOSING EVERYTHING! 🚨** In one of our most intense episodes yet, host Jenny Smith sits down with **Daniel** as he takes us deep inside the shadowy world of the **Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB)** movement. You won't believe the shocking details he reveals. Daniel was the ideal IFB kid—the classic 'preacher boy.' But behind the fa...