The Newfangled Lawyer

Summary In this episode of the Newfangled Lawyer podcast, Patrick Patino and Cari Brunkow engage in a deep and reflective conversation about resilience, questioning, and the multifaceted nature of identity within the legal profession. They explore Kari's personal journey as a first-generation American, her experiences in law, and the importance of creating community and holding space for other...

Summary In this episode, Patrick Patino interviews Shaun Jardine, a proponent of value-based pricing in the legal profession. They discuss the importance of understanding client value, the disconnect between clients and law firms, and the need for lawyers to empower themselves to say no to difficult clients. Shaun shares insights on the significance of pricing policies, the shift from billable hou...

About Courtney Courtney Schulnick, Esquire spent two decades as a litigator at Marshall Dennehey’s Philadelphia office, advocating in state and federal courts. Firsthand experience with the intense demands of legal practice led her to the Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) Program at Jefferson’s Myrna Brind Center, where she discovered the transformative power of mindfulness. Now a MBSR tea...

About Sierra Sierra Grandy is a speaker, attorney, advocate, and adventurer focusing on neurodiversity, disability, and mental health topics. As a neurodivergent and disabled person herself, Sierra draws on her lived experiences and educational background to give voice to marginalized and overlooked communities. As an avid volunteer and leader in her community, with leadership roles within the Nat...

About Erin Erin Gerner is an attorney turned elite coach, speaker and founder of the Powerhouse Lawyers community. She helps high-achieving women in law reclaim their power, set bold boundaries, and build lives and careers they actually love. Through her podcast, retreats, and coaching programs, Erin empowers women to define success on their own terms—without sacrificing themselves in the process....

This episode features Allie Levene, a lawyer revolutionizing legal services, particularly for small businesses and nonprofits. Her view of the law is that it is not as an elite profession, but is a vehicle to help the everyday person. She opens up about the challenges of fitting into traditional law firms that weren't designed for her differences and her desire to make legal support truly acce...

Join host Patrick Patino and guest Bradley Miller as they discuss finding peace while practicing law in your own way. Bradley discusses deprioritizing his identity as a lawyer and what that reframe brought to his life. About Bradley Helping Create a Better Legal Profession | Happy Lawyers → Happy Clients | Legal Counsel for Franchisees and Small Business Buyers & Sellers | #LawyerDad #LawyersW...

Join host Patrick Patino and guest Johnathan Merel. With a focus on bringing comfort to his clients, Jonathan has created a family law firm that provides a refreshing experience, bucking the traditional way of doing things. Jonathan has made his impact by reshaping what a law firm looks like. This episode is filled with laughter, no-BS insights, and pushback on traditional ways of thinking about p...

In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer , Karen Munoz discusses the personal and professional impact of working in high-trauma legal practice areas and what led her to study and practice yoga, mindfulness, and eventually trauma therapy. She and host Patrick Patino unpack the mental toll of practicing law, the weight of vicarious trauma, and how presence, community, and self-awareness helped her b...

In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer , Patrick Patino and Maddison Koper get real about what it means to build a legal career—and a life—on your own terms. They swap stories about running your own firm, blending personal and professional identities, and choosing authenticity over outdated expectations. Maddison shares her journey of creating a law practice that actually fits who she is, while...

In this episode host Patrick Patino is joined by guest Drew Amoroso to discuss lawyer coaching, non-attachment, and bringing kind and gentle masculine energy to the practice of law. About Drew Drew Amoroso is a former lawyer and the Founder of DueCourse, the legal industry’s only platform enabled coaching company. He's a recognized workday coach and thought leader on how to bring a human-cente...

Join Patrick Patino on The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast as he sits down with John Avi Socha, Chief Operating Officer at Hemmatt Law Group, a prominent family law firm in Seattle. John shares his journey and experiences in driving innovation through technology, automation, effective management practices, and embracing novelty. John dives into the challenges of maintaining a high-touch client experienc...

In this episode, host Patrick Patino returns from a brief hiatus and sits down with Brandy Wilson Edwards, a self-described "multi-passionate person and professional." While Brandy is an attorney and motivational speaker, much of the conversation focuses on her vibrant identity beyond traditional titles. She shares her love for hot yoga, abstract painting, personal development, and her u...

In this episode, Patrick is joined by Henry Nelson-Case, a UK-based lawyer and content creator, for an engaging conversation about breaking traditional molds in law. Henry shares his unconventional journey from a traditional legal career to becoming a social media influencer, balancing the structured world of law with the creative freedom of content creation. He reflects on the challenges of stepp...

In this engaging episode of The Newfangled Lawyer , host Patrick Patino sits down with Justie Nicol, founder of Colorado Lawyer Team, to discuss her decade-long journey as a firm owner and her experiences as a legal professional in today’s rapidly evolving world. Patrick and Justie recount their first meeting at ClioCon in Austin, where a chance introduction over unexpectedly great pizza laid the...

Patrick Patino welcomes guest Heather Moulder, a former corporate finance attorney turned career and business coach for lawyers, to discuss what it means to be a "newfangled lawyer." Heather shares her journey from 18 years in Big Law to helping attorneys align their personal values with their professional practice. Together, they explore the importance of authenticity, self-awareness, and value-d...

In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer podcast, Patrick Patino welcomes Allison Harrison, the founder of ALH Law Group, a firm celebrating its 10th anniversary. Allison shares her journey of building a firm that specializes in estate planning for the queer community while also maintaining a unique niche in representing car dealers. She discusses the success of embracing her firm’s unconventional...

In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer podcast, host Patrick Patino welcomes Frank Ramos, a Miami-based civil defense lawyer with a flair for innovation and a passion for AI. Frank shares his journey into the world of artificial intelligence, explaining how he became captivated by the technology when ChatGPT passed the bar exam in 2023. Now, he's an avid AI evangelist, incorporating it into his...

Join host Patrick Patino and guest Shane Seppinni on a laugh-filled episode where they discuss living in awe, creating boundaries, and giving yourself permission to doing things differently. About Shane: Shane Seppinni founded Seppinni Law. Seppinni Law is a preeminent plaintiffs law firm headquartered in New York City, representing employees and survivors against Corporate America and abusers. Af...

Join host Patrick Patino and guest Shams Merchant as they discuss taking ownership of your career with joy. Shams shares how he started building a book of business even before becoming a licensed attorney and how he took control of his career through intentional business/personal brand development. About Shams Shams is a real estate private equity attorney, representing investors, developers and r...

In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick welcomes Krisina Zuñiga, a newly minted partner at Susman Godfrey, as the first episode of Season 3 following a brief hiatus. Krisina offers insights into balancing a demanding legal career while maintaining personal well-being. Krisina shares her path to becoming a partner, highlighting her background growing up in Laredo, Texas, a bo...

To wrap up Season 2, Ryan McLaughlin & Derek Witte join me for a conversation where I play more episode participant than host. This is for sure the most I have shared in an episode of the podcast, a first look into what I have going on, my approach to life (and the practice of law), and being okay with being. I ask more questions than I have answers to. Derek & Ryan encourage deep conversa...

About Josh: Joshua Brumley  is the managing attorney at  Brumley Law Firm , a professor, and an author. Once a young punk who faced more than his share of adversity, he was motivated to practice law in defense of vulnerable communities and still applies a community-first punk approach to his work.  After a start in criminal defense, Joshua began practicing family law free of charge – he doesn’t be...

About Megan: Megan Senese, a former Big Law legal marketing and business development professional, is now the co-founder of stage. stage, a women-owned legal marketing and business development firm, specializes in coaching and actionable strategies to boost empathy, revenue, and visibility for lawyers, with a particular focus on women. stage stands out as one of the pioneering in-house legal marke...

About Brian: Brian Beckcom is one of the nation's leading trial lawyers as well as a Philosopher and Computer Scientist. Brian is the founder and host of "Lessons from Leaders," a podcast that features national and international leaders. He received degrees in Computer Science and Philosophy from Texas A&M. Brian graduated with honors from the University of Texas School of Law. B...