The Moon Under Water: A Pubcast with Kel Daniels and Steve Jones

Turns out, a brother podcast across the pond shares a similar name to our American version of Orwell's fantasy pub. We say the more the merrier in this friendly review--and delineation from our show--of this good natured interview pod. Ultimate conclusion: these guys are cool and welcome to our pod anytime they're in the neighborhood, and we wouldn't turn down an invite to theirs. http...

Steve's dad was an airline pilot, and he has turned into the kind of adult who knows the make, model, year, and production quirk of every plane at the airport. Naturally, he has plenty to say about doors flying off of jets while in flight and other terrors. None of this will stop them from getting on planes at every opportunity though. https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/whe...

Steve wanted to talk about beer and who was Kelly to object? This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keldaniels.substack.com

Just so happens that Steve is a data transport expert and Kelly is a licensed literary critic, so what better team to take on this deliciously messed up story of the very near future? Sit down, buckle up, and brace yourself for the greatest work of literary analysis in all Podcastistan. Here's a review from 2010, when the work was originally published. https://www.wired.com/2010/12/book-review...

What happens when you board the wrong train and end up in a war zone, questioned by an angry soldier who apparently wants to know about your missing visa? Son of airline pilot Steve has some travel questions for backpacker Kelly, and vice versa. Tune in for dueling yarns o' the road. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episo...

Steve's permanent running injuries prompt a philosophical discussion about the modern desire to suffer in the name of fun. The talk soon devolves into travel stories. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keldaniels.substack.com

New co-host Steve Jones (former member of legacy punk band the Sex Pistols, according to the Internet!) and old co-host Kelly Daniels talk sports at the pub. Gridiron, futball, baseball...even cricket! Sports, huh, good God, what are they good for? Your homework: Orwell's "The Sporting Spirit" Arsenal vs. Dynamo Moscow Back in the Day This is a public episode. If you would like to di...

Epiphanies galore in this simonistic discussion of Joyce's sad and frustrating story of paralysis. Also, negative stereotypes of drunken Irishmen and their downtrodden women. Full text of Joyce's Dubliners here: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2814/2814-h/2814-h.htm This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kel...

The Pubsters take on the final story of Denis Johnson's glorious collection, Jesus' Son. Phoebe can't bring herself over the F*Head's side of things in spite of the poor guy's amazing descriptions of the permanently disabled. We found no free full text versions of this story online, but you can pay for it at the Paris Review , or, better yet, buy the terrific book. https://www....

The Pubsters continue the trend of dead white guys by discussing "Indian Camp," by Ernest Hemingway. Phoebe brings up a scandalous interpretation. Kelly is skeptical, but no, seriously, Phoebe heard it in class or read it in an article something. It's a hell of a thing. Read the story here: chrome-extension: //efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://mymission.lamission.edu/userdata/...

Phoebe feels kindly toward Mrs. Hopewell in Flannery O'Connor's classic short story, "Good Country People," flabbergasting Kelly, who finds every last character in the story dim and self-deluded, except Manley Pointer, who is a vicious psychopath but plenty clever. Read along here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx3cGhzaXJwcm9qZWN0fGd4...

Phoebe chose one of JD Salinger's most famous stories, "A Perfect Day for Bananafish," based in part on some sort of anime adaptation that Kelly is too old to understand. But he gladly rereads this old favorite (the Salinger story, not the anime), and decides it holds up just fine. Here's the big question though: what's up with Seymore and that little girl? Is he, like, able...

Kelly choses the pod's first poem, featuring time and space travel, existential dread, a market in Rome, and a mole-colored hill in upstate New York. Phoebe approves. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keldaniels.substack.com

Phoebe selects DFW's famous commencement speech, "This is Water" for episode two. Kelly's also a fan, though he loves Wallace's essays best of all. Click here for full text of the speech. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keldaniels.substack.com

Meet Kelly Daniels and Phoebe Fuller, your hosts for a literary pub talk inspired by George Orwell's favorite public-house: The Moon Under Water. "The Moon Under Water," by George Orwell: https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/the-moon-under-water/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get a...