Provisionist Perspective

Drew tries to convince Eric of 7 different things that Conditional Security and Once Saved Always Saved advocates alike should be able to agree on. Drew and Eric discuss a few of their differences on Eternal Security but manage to find a number of points to agree on. Premiered August 16, 2022 Support the show

Drew and Eric reconvene after a long hiatus to discuss the Wesleyan-Holiness tradition and their theological convictions, comparing and contrasting with Provisionism.  Streamed live July 27, 2022 Support the show

Eric dusts off one of his old seminary textbooks to educate Drew on how the infamous John Calvin rose to religious-political power in 16th century Geneva. Premiered May 2, 2022 Support the show

Eric & Drew interview a Ukrainian brother to talk about his testimony and faith background, how he came to the US, the spiritual climate of Ukraine, what’s happening with the war, how we can pray, and perhaps most importantly, how we can help. Streamed live April 12, 2022 Support the show

Join Eric & Drew as they respond to a Calvinist brother, "Bottom Line Dad", who addressed their recent broadcast about unhelpful Christian platitudes and the phrase "God is in control". They talk about how BLD seems to mostly miss their point and ends up concluding that Eric & Drew are just out to smash "Calvinism" and want to swap one platitude for others tha...

Join Eric & Drew as they recount Drew’s Tweet about Ukraine and giving empty platitudes during times of crisis, how they got ratio’d by Christian Twitter, and the interaction that ensued from popular Calvinists James White and Phil Johnson of Grace to You Ministries. Premiered March 17, 2022 Support the show

Using the research by Frederick Larson, Eric and Drew discuss the biblical validity of looking for God's revelation in the stars and scour the Bible for evidence it gives us about the Star. We then take a dive into how we can know what was going on in the sky above Jerusalem two thousand years ago and for which years we should be looking. Using a software program called Stellarium, Eric then...

Eric & Drew Interview Ronnie Rogers, pastor of Trinity Baptist Church in Norman, Oklahoma about his journey in and out of Calvinism. Brother Ronnie challenges his Calvinistic brethren to be clear and precise about what they believe instead of engaging in what he calls "double talk". He talks about some of the entailments and disquieting realities of Calvinism. Eric, Drew, & Ronni...

Eric & Drew change tact this week as they look at the latter half of John Piper's book Coronavirus and Christ and end up having a lot of positive things to say about his advice while highlighting how it doesn't really mesh with the Calvinistic determinism established in the first half of the book. Premiered February 3, 2022 Support the show

Drew talks live about the 5 things that we should hear on a Sunday morning and gives his feedback from research done from sermons across the world this past week. Streamed February 2, 2022 Support the show

Eric and Drew give a critical review of John Piper's 2020 book Coronavirus & Christ, highlighting the weaknesses of his proof texts for "sovereignty", the encouraging parts, as well as the parts that just make no sense on his Calvinistic-deterministic worldview. Premiered January 20, 2022 Support the show

Drew reviews a really fascinating conversation he had on Twitter with Colin of the Consistent Calvinism Podcast on whether we can trust our thoughts if free will is true and whether or not all of reality is just cause & effect. Streamed January 15, 2022 Support the show

Eric and Drew dust off the "Statement of the Traditional Southern Baptist Understanding of God’s Plan of Salvation" and talk about it's affirmations and denials as well as the points of agreement they have (and don't have with it). The Traditionalist Statement was formulated and published circa 2012 and has since been defended in Baptist Journal articles. Premiered January 13,...

Tune in Live as Eric and Drew discuss some bad memes they've found on the internet this past year and answer some of your questions about Provisionism. Streamed live January 1, 2022 Support the show

Drew has special guest Tim Nichols back on to respond to a broadcast from Bob Wilkins and Shawn Lazar of the Grace Evangelical Society's questions "What is a Provisionist? What does it mean to believe? How is believing different from working?".  Tim and Drew contrast their view of the word "faith"/"belief" with Shawn and Bob's regarding what it means to beli...

Eric and Drew walk through Ephesians 1:1-14 in a verse by verse layman's commentary. They discuss election, predestination, and God's salvation plan, highlighting some of the Jew/Gentile distinctions in the passage that are important for the soteriological discussion. Premiered December 16, 2021 Support the show

Tag-teaming in and out as the proverbial "good cop" and "bad cop", Drew and Eric tackle a critique of their Corporate Election view from Ephesians 1 by Tyler Vela, an online Calvinist apologist. Vela strawmans and misrepresents throughout and Drew and Eric highlight these tactics in their own unique ways. Drew & Eric highlight that examining and paying attention to pronouns...

Drew engages with a challenge/offer/bet from Tyler Vela of the Freed Thinker Podcast on Twitter. Vela offered $100 if Drew could accurately engage with his (and other Calvinists') view on Ephesians 1 and Election!! Drew summarizes their interaction on Twitter (link to thread below) and proceeds to first engage with some of Vela's tweets and then walks though Ephesians 1 from a Calvinisti...

Eric and Drew tackle the sensitive and often controversial topic of marriage, divorce, and remarriage from a biblical standpoint. They address various interpretations of scripture, including insights from Mike Winger, Wayne Grudem, and David Pawson. The discussion delves into what constitutes a legitimate marriage, the grounds for divorce, and the implications of remarriage, with special attention...

Eric & Drew discuss a sermon from David Pawson on Divorce & Remarriage and compare and contrast their views on the issue. They talk about divorce in the Old Testament from the Law of Moses (Deuteronomy 24) as well as God's feelings towards adultery Israel and how He responded to them in the context of divorce in Jeremiah 3, Hosea, and Malachi 2. Pawson explains Jesus view on divorce a...

Eric discusses a recent social media controversy and asks "Is there value in controversial rhetoric?" and "Can we be disrespectful towards ideas we find to be harmful?". Eric gives evidence for his position on these questions by showing venerated Calvinists engaged in the same controversial analogy and in arguably disrespectful rhetoric. Also, those who engage in theological di...

In this live episode, Eric and Drew discuss a sermon called "Paul and the Transformative Gospel". NT Wright talks about how the Gospel seemed like "controversial nonsense" to his hearers because of how radical it was. Drew and Eric reflect on what it could be that Christians are now known for that would radically depart from their culture. NT Wright emphasizes Paul's &quot...

In this 3rd part of the PROVIDE acrostic series, Eric and Drew talk about the Scriptural passages that support the Truth that Christ is available to everyone and no one is excluded from his offers of forgiveness and everlasting life. Premiered October 29, 2021 Support the show

Drew and Eric continue their walk through Provisionism's PROVIDE acrostic and talk about our responsibility to God and how He makes His grace accessible and available to everyone. Premiered October 20, 2021 Support the show

Eric, with special surprise guest Drew McLeod, discusses an article he wrote on Soteriology 101 which addresses a criticism Eric terms "The Standard of Seriousness". How much knowledge do we need before those who we criticize have to take our arguments seriously? There is a fine line between requesting knowledge of historical Reformed orthodoxy and gatekeeping such that only those who es...