Zach Abramowitz
Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted
This is a podcast for the people who want to understand and shape the future of the law. Hey there, I’m Zach Abramowitz and I am Legally Disrupted! 15 years ago, my legal career was disrupted by tech. Today, I’m advising the some of the most influential legal service providers in the world on their AI strategy and investing in some of the promising #legalAI startups. Every week, I talk to the builders, founders, operators, and decision-makers driving change in a legal ecosystem being reshaped by AI. We don’t just revel in the gloriousness of AI -- we do that too! But, we also break down comple...
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Jun 23, 2026
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E28 - Zach and Richard's Excellent Legal AI Adventure: Inside Eudia's Groundbreaking AI-First Law Firm 14.09.2025 43:35
Zach and Richard break down AI-first legal services, ALSPs, and the EUDIA announcement. Asking who really owns legal AI, whether ROI even matters, and how these new firms might rewrite the rules of the industry. In this episode: Non-Lawyer Ownership of Law Firms AI in Transactional Work The Business Model of AI-First Law Firms Measurable ROI in Legal Tech The IKEA Catalog Scenario AI-First Fi...
E27 - Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure: Big Deals and AI Revolution 19.08.2025 36:59
In this episode of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz introduces a new recurring segment called 'Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure' with Richard Tromans from Artificial Lawyer. They discuss the rapid evolution in the legal tech sphere, particularly focusing on big deals and announcements from legal AI companies like Harvey and Legora. The duo debates the impact of generative AI producti...
E26 - Exploring Legal Tech Investments in the Post-ChatGPT World with Chris Fisher and Jonathan Levy 15.08.2025 39:23
In episode 26 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz brings us a live conversation from the Legal Innovators California Conference in San Francisco. The discussion features Chris Fisher of Myriad Ventures and Jonathan Levy of Y Combinator, two prominent investors in the legal tech space. They delve into the shifts in legal tech investments from the pre-ChatGPT era to the post-ChatGPT world,...
E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan 09.08.2025 47:39
E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan In episode 25 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz sits down with David Wong, Chief Product Officer at Thomson Reuters and Ragunath (Raghu) Ramanathan, President of Legal Professionals and Government at Thomson Reuters, to discuss the 2025 Future of Professionals Report. The conversation explores AI's increasing adoption...
E24 - A Deep Dive into Harvey's Rapid Ascent with Tara Waters, TLW Consulting 02.07.2025 35:12
In this episode, Zach interviews Tara Waters, founder of TLW Consulting and former Chief Digital Officer at Ashurst, who led the firm’s rollout of Harvey. They discuss Harvey’s meteoric rise in legal AI, Tara’s firsthand experiences adopting Harvey within a global firm, and how legal teams evaluate AI tools. The conversation explores why lawyers initially gasped at Harvey’s capabilities, how expec...
E23 - Investment Hype vs. Reality in Legal AI, Eli Amsellem, Ridge Ventures 10.06.2025 32:33
In this episode, Zach Abramowitz is joined by Eli Amsellem, an investor at Ridge Ventures, to delve into the hot topic of investment in legal AI. They discuss the hype around billion-dollar valuations and the reality behind customer adoption and revenue sustainability. Eli shares insights from his hands-on approach, including talking to actual buyers and hosting GC therapy dinners. They debate the...
E22 - Is AI For Contract Review Exciting? Preston Clark and Electra Japonas from LawInsider and oneNDA 07.05.2025 49:56
In this episode, Zach delves into the evolution and impact of AI on contract management with Preston Clark and Electra Japonas. In this episode: AI and Contracts: A Boring Use Case The Adoption Curve of AI in Legal The Story of Law Insider The Birth of One NDA The Future of AI and Contracting Legacy Product Overview AI Capabilities and New SKU User Growth and Market Excitement Product Dis...
E21 - ChatGPT vs. Legaltech -- Who Will Win? Lawyer & Technologist Carolyn Elefant 24.04.2025 30:26
This episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted features a conversation with lawyer and technologist Carolyn Elefant about whether legal specific tools and legacy software will be able to keep up with general applications like ChatGPT. In this episode: The Rapid Evolution of AI in Law The Future of AI in Legal Practice Exploring AI Tools for Lawyers Legal Research and AI Integration The Im...
E20 - From Legacy ML To Generative AI: Serial Legaltech Entrepreneur Charlie Connor 20.03.2025 51:55
In this episode, Zach and Charlie delve into the rapid advancements in AI, particularly in the legal tech sector. The discussion transitions to the increasing caliber of entrepreneurs in legal tech and the acceleration of innovation in the field. They reflect on the evolution of legal AI from 2015 to 2023, noting the shift from mere ideas to full-blown products. The conversation also explores the...
E19 - Leya Just Rebranded As Legora: Chris Williams, Head of Strategic Partnerships and Community at Legora 18.03.2025 33:08
In this episode, Zach speaks with Legora's head of strategic partnerships and community, Chris Williams, about the rebranding journey and the strategic role of Legora in the AI-driven legal tech landscape. The discussion covers the responsibilities of his role, the transition from selling no-code, low-code platforms to generative AI, and the significant shift in how AI is transforming legal practi...
E18 - Why You Should Come to ILTA EVOLVE This April with Ogletree’s Josh Smith and Tanenbaum Keale’s Ken Jones 10.03.2025 35:19
Zach, Ken and Josh talk about the upcoming three day conference in Myrtle Beach focusing on AI, Cybersecurity and Data Governance. Attendees will have opportunities to interact with cutting-edge AI companies and products. The event features specific presentations, including those by startup community members, covering practical AI applications in fields like legal finance, pricing, collections, an...
E17 - How AI Has Tech Companies Pivoting with Eleanor Lightbody, CEO of Luminance 27.02.2025 26:20
In this episode, Zach interviews Eleanor Lightbody, the CEO of Luminance, about her journey from working at Darktrace to leading Luminance, a legal tech company. Eleanor shares insights from her four years as CEO, highlighting the transformative impact of AI in the legal tech space. They discuss Luminance's growth strategy, the development of their contract lifecycle management tool, and the shift...
E16 - How Biglaw Can and Should Partner with Early Stage Startups, with Ilona Logvinova and Evan Shenkman 13.02.2025 42:20
In this engaging conversation, Ilona and Evan discuss their roles and experiences in leading innovation within their respective law firms, Cleary Gottlieb and Fisher Phillips. Ilona, the Director of Practice Innovation at Cleary, shares her journey from McKinsey to leading a transformation journey at Cleary. Evan, the Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Fisher Phillips, talks about his shift...
E15 - Could “AI For Lawyers” Catch on Faster with In-House Attorneys? Katya Fisher, CEO and Founder of Aracor 22.01.2025 49:09
Katya Fisher introduces her journey from a practicing attorney to a tech entrepreneur. She shares her experience of building a successful law practice during the Great Recession and how she acquired a unique set of legal skills. Katya talks about the inefficiencies in the legal world that led her to build Aracor.ai, a legal tech product tailored for in-house counsel of investment firms such as ven...
E14 - Are the Lines Blurring Between DMS and AI? NetDocuments CPO Dan Hauck 02.12.2024 29:27
In this episode recorded at the NetDocuments Inspire EMEA conference in London, Dan Hauck outlines the strides made in integrating AI into legal document management. The discussion begins with a reflection on a previous webinar and the decision to avoid common, simplistic AI solutions like chatbots, instead focusing on using LLMs for intelligent document tagging. The development and features of Ne...
E13 - Are Law Firms Succeeding with GenAI? Joe Cohen, Director of Innovation at CRS 28.11.2024 18:56
In this episode, Joe Cohen, Director of Advanced Client Solutions at Charles Russell Speechlys, discusses his recent career change and the establishment of a new department at the firm focusing on legal tech, generative AI, legal project management, and process improvement. Joe details the triggers for creating the innovation department and the rapid adoption of generative AI platforms within the...
E12 - AI and the Future of Legal Ops with LegalOps.com Founders Jeff Franke and Connie Brenton 27.08.2024 33:49
In episode 12 of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted, Zach interviews Jeff Franke and Connie Brenton, co-founders of LegalOps.com, ahead of their upcoming conference, "Running Legal Like a Business," in Las Vegas from September 3-6. The discussion highlights the evolution of legal operations, emphasizing the need for community and industry standards, which they aim to foster through their platfor...
E11 - Is Harvey.ai All Hype? Giupedi CEO Edward Bukstel 22.08.2024 52:51
In this episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted, dive into the world of digital health and legal technology with a seasoned entrepreneur who has been at the forefront of healthcare technology since the late 1980s. The discussion covers the evolution of electronic health records, the intersection of digital health and legal tech, and the challenges faced by lawyers in adopting new technolog...
E10 - GPT Wrappers with James Lee, CEO & Cofounder of LegalMation 09.08.2024 31:02
This episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted delves into the importance of using specialized tools for professionals, drawing an analogy between Snap-on tools at a motorcycle shop and purpose-built applications in the legal industry. It discusses why general-purpose tools like GPT and Claude may not meet the specific needs of professionals, emphasizing the need for tailored solutions that...
E9 - How is AI Impacting Law Firm Subsidiaries? Bryon Bratcher, MD of Gravity Stack 10.07.2024 25:04
In this episode, I sit down with Gravity Stack’s Managing Director Bryon Bratcher for a live conversation on stage in San Francisco at Legal Innovators California (hosted by Artificial Lawyer Richard Tromans) to learn about how Gravity Stack, the subsidiary of Reed Smith LLP, is transforming its service offerings in light of the advances in AI and large language models. Learn More: www.legalinn...
E8 - Conversation in Las Vegas at CLOC with Latitude Legal CRO Alex Su 21.05.2024 31:56
Zach sits down with legal influencer Alex Su for an engaging discussion about his unique career journey and insights into the legal industry's future. Alex's move from legal tech companies to a leadership role at Latitude Legal Exploring how creating engaging content can amplify one’s influence and impact in the legal sector The significance of gradual, sustained efforts in achieving long-term p...
E7 - How Lawyers Are Going to Make Money From AI: TermScout CEO Otto Hanson 11.04.2024 39:25
Zach talks with TermScout founder about the inspiration for Screens.ai, how LLMs have drastically changed their roadmap and how lawyers will now be able to generate passive income from AI. Introduction to the Pivot from Term Scout to Screens.ai Exploring the Pivot: Not Just a Change, But an Expansion The Success and Services of Term Scout The Genesis and Vision of Screens.ai The Gig Economy and Le...
E6 - How LLMs Are Supercharging User Adoption - Scott Stevenson, Spellbook CEO 14.03.2024 36:40
Scott talks with Zach about how LLMs have been a game changer for his company, why he likens Spellbook to an electric bicycle and why lawyers don’t use templates. Learn More: Scott - https://www.spellbook.legal/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Scott - linkedin.com/in/scottas , https://x.com/scottastevenson?s=20 Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
E5 - How Will GenAI Impact #Legaltech? - James Lee, CEO & Cofounder of LegalMation 11.01.2024 32:42
LegalMation CEO James Lee talks with Zach about the company's recent $15M funding round, adoption of AI by lawyers and where LLMs sometimes come up short. Learn More: James - https://www.legalmation.com/about/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: James - https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-lee-9468b64 Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
E4 - Will AI and LLMs Cause eDiscovery to Disappear? - Andy Wilson, Co-Founder of Logikcull, Recently Acquired by Reveal 07.12.2023 46:55
Andy Wilson, co-founder and former CEO of Logikcull, recently acquired by Reveal. Will AI and LLMs cause eDiscovery to disappear? Andy Wilson LinkedIn Andy Wilson X Logikcull Learn more about Zach at Killer Whale Strategies
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