Spencer Klavan

Young Heretics

The classical education you never knew you were missing. Join scholar and writer Spencer Klavan on a tour through the great works of the West. In a world gone mad, we're not alone: the great men and women who went before us have wisdom to guide us. With their help, we can recover truth, beauty, and the stuff that matters.

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Jun 12, 2026

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Episodes

Israel and Civilization, ft. Josh Hammer 25.03.2025

This is a podcast about the West, which means Athens and Jerusalem. Without the second part of that equation you don't get the key notion of the "Imago Dei," or mankind's creation in the image of God--and without that, arguably, that you don't get America. Then of course there's the enormous storehouse of political wisdom that makes Israel a bulwark against globalism both ancient and modern. All t...

The One That Got Away: Creusa, Aeneas' AI Girlfriend 19.03.2025

Speaking just for myself, I'm still not over Creusa. Aeneas' first wife, the woman who bore the future forefather of Rome's emperors, must stay behind to die in Troy while her family forges on ahead. Today we'll talk about why that has to be, what it says about the tragic cost of destiny for each of us, and how book II of Virgil's epic concludes. Plus: the cast list for Christopher Nolan's  Odysse...

Tech and the Future of the Family, ft. Jon Askonas 13.03.2025

We will not live in the pod. We will not eat the fake meat. We will not perform robot necromancy. But then...what  should we do? With the Right in political power and a radically new mood sweeping the country, Jon Askonas of the Catholic University of America is among those thinking about how we can use technology well and in service of our humanity--not the other way around. I called him up to di...

After the End 05.03.2025

When we first met Aeneas, he wished he could have died at Troy. Today, we find out why. By all accounts, the honorable thing to do would have been to go down with the burning citadel of his fathers. But this ain't your daddy's  Iliad , and one thing we're learning is that honor and glory don't fetch quite the price they used to. If there's anyone who understands that it's Neoptolemus, AKA Pyrrhus,...

Snakes on the Plain 26.02.2025

Hey look, it's some Greeks! Bearing gifts! What could possibly go wrong? Today the Trojans will find out the answer to that very question, which will take us (at  last !) into the story of that freaking horse. In Virgil's masterful hands it becomes a parable of Greek rhetorical trickery, Odyssean danger, and above all Roman anxiety over just how we should feel about the Greeks. On the one hand, wi...

That's the Power of Love 20.02.2025

Don't take money...don't take fame...just takes a primordial deity whose powers of creation and destruction supervised the origins of the world, who is now divebombing straight at Dido's heart. What could go wrong? This extremely twisted Valentine's Day special will bring us to the end of  The Aeneid , Book 1, which ends in blood-pumping fashion with a moment of extreme sexual tension. In the mids...

TarSHEESH 14.02.2025

Wail, O Tyre and...where now? Just where WAS Jonah going when he got re-routed via fish? The possibilities aren't limitless, exactly, but there sure are a lot of them including...just, like, the ocean itself? Nah, probalby not, but it's a fun thought and there are lots of others. It's one of those little Biblical mysteries that holds out all sorts of tantalizing possibilities. I can't tell you whi...

They Say All's Fair 11.02.2025

It's Aeneas and Dido: A Tale of Love and War. As we get into the first major episodes of Aeneas' journey, we embark upon an intricate composition of wheels within wheels--stories of carnage and battle interlocked with stories of desire, affection, and lust. From an explanation of ring composition via Harry Potter, to a Virgilian image that has changed poetry ever since, to a bonus segment on chias...

More than a Woman: Dido and Aeneas's Epic Love Affair 04.02.2025

Who's that dime walking down the temple corridor? Is it Juno? Venus? Diana? Cleopatra? No, it's  Dido , queen of Carthage and warrior princess of Tyre. In this episode, Virgil introduces one of literature's all-time greatest heroines, high on her throne but doomed to fall. She's demure...or is she? She's mother...or not? Whatever she is, she's always a woman to me. And to Aeneas, who at this point...

C.S. Lewis's Lost Aeneid 28.01.2025

When I tell you my finger  smashed the "order now" button--apparently there's a fragmentary translation of the  Aeneid  by C.S. Lewis that he was working on all throughout his life. It's a rhyming version in 12-syllable Alexandrine lines, and you KNOW I had to do a review of it. Here are my thoughts, as well as a little more on Lewis's theory of epic and his lifelong relationship with Rome's great...

I'm In Danger: Ralph Wiggum versus the Phoenicians 24.01.2025

Of all the gin joints on all the shores of the Mediterranean, Aeneas had to wash up onto this one. He doesn't know it yet, but this is Carthage: the home of what will become Rome's greatest rival and the ultimate obstacle in her rise to greatness. The genius of Virgil is how he tells us all that while also showing us what things looked like from Aeneas' vantage point--before the clash of civilizat...

The Three Little Words no One Can Resist 21.01.2025

If you've ever wanted to make the ladies or the fellas swoon with just three little words, now is your chance. I'm talking, of course, about the words "arma virumque cano." So few syllables, yet they say so much. In fact, they connect Virgil's epic to Rome and Greece, past and future, the Iliad and the Odyssey , the human and the divine realms, all at once. And each one is a kind of transformation...

Aeneas: the Frodo of Epic Poetry 17.01.2025

Aeneas really, really does not want to be in this poem. As in, he would rather be dead. That's how the  Aeneid starts out: when we're introduced to our hero he's a very unwilling participant in a grand plan for world history, and he doesn't feel remotely up to the task. Virgil might have felt the same way, crushed under the political and artistic pressure of telling a founding story for Rome's new...

The All-Time Best Aeneid Translation 15.01.2025

How many English editions of the Aeneid can we possibly need? Which one is the best one, and why? Is the C.S. Lewis version real, or just a myth? Today, as we prepare to launch into our series on Virgil's great epic, I share a reading from a few different translations, a discussion of some of the issues at play, and a verdict on the GOAT when it comes to the Aeneid in English.  Use code HERETICS t...

Get in Loser, We're Reading Epic Poems 09.01.2025

It's a new year, and it's time for a new epic. You asked, we delivered: here comes Virgil's  Aeneid ! BUT FIRST: while we were gone over the Christmas vacation, Twitter descended into an intoxicating madness of epic adaptation, debate, and counter-programming. I'll recap the major points and give my take on: Christopher Nolan's  Odyssey , whether you should have heard of Homer before, and what you...

Epic Fail: My Review of the Return 18.12.2024

I wanted to like this movie. Really, I did. I tried to like it. But modern realism is just totally unsuited to the Homeric epics and like, also...maybe to telling a coherent story at all? Ralph Feinnes and Juliette Binoche are both terrific actors, but  The Return failed for me at every level and here's why. Plus: read more at The New Jerusalem .  Register for Spring courses at The Ancient Languag...

The Inklings Awards for Literary Excellence 10.12.2024

And the Inkling Award goes to... This year, for the first of what I hope will be many times, I'm announcing my awards for the best books I read in four categories, with one bonus: Non-Fiction   Criticism Fiction Theology Bonus Category : Worst Book of the year You can find links to the winners above, and a few runner-ups here , here , here , here , and here . Who will win? Who belly-flopped the ha...

Odysseus: Where Is He Now? 27.11.2024

"I cannot rest from travel," says Odysseus in Alfred, Lord Tennyson's  Ulysses . But wasn't resting from travel...kind of the whole point? Come to think of it, what  does  happen to an indelible character when his story comes to an end? Maybe the answer is, it doesn't. As a coda to our series on Homer, here's one last look at Odysseus through the years, as his story has inspired everyone from Dant...

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Advent 25.11.2024

Hey you! Yeah, you!! PUT DOWN THAT NAT KING COLE CHRISTMAS ALBUM. It's not time yet!! Technically, it won't even be time on December 1, which is the beginning not of Christmas but of the  Advent  season. It's also the beginning of the liturgical calendar. And since these sorts of things can be hard to focus on unless you really set out with intention at the beginning, I thought this year I'd invit...

The Suitors Get Theirs: The End of the Odyssey 19.11.2024

It's payback time. Odysseus at last throws off his disguise and wages holy war on the men who tore up his house and home for ten years, in what is still one of the most metal sequences in all of world literature. Does he go too far? Lots of people think so--but I don't. I think he gets right up to the brink and then, in a key moment that brings the hero's journey to its close, his son pulls him ba...

What I Learned about Lord of the Rings by Inventing a Language 15.11.2024

Confession: for a long time I never understood why Tolkien had to make up a language to go with The Lord of the Rings . It felt a little bit like trying to tell an adventure story while getting bogged down in the details of imaginary corn law. But when the Daily Wire asked me to invent a new language for the Pendragon series, I instantly understood Tolkien in a whole new way. So when a listener as...

The Sins of the Father: How Odysseus got his Name 13.11.2024

Odysseus' journey isn't over when he reaches Ithaca's shores. It won't be fully over until he takes back his rightful place at the head of his household--but first, he has one last journey of self-discovery to make. With the help of his nursemaid Eurycleia, he has to learn at last that he's not just the person war has made him: he's also the person he left behind at home. At the end of all his wan...

How to Learn Old English (feat. Colin Gorrie) 08.11.2024

My guest today is someone who I believe, without exaggeration, will help transform the way people learn ancient languages for years to come. While our institutional academies crumble, a new academy is quietly emerging in independent organizations like the Ancient Language Institute, and Colin Gorrie is one of its leading figures. His aspiration is to "bring linguistics out of the ivory tower," whi...

This One's For the Boys: Ithaca's Favorite Dog 06.11.2024

We've met the ladies at the end of Odysseus' journey--though not, of course, the most important one. But now it's time for the main man to get re-acquainted with the fellas: his faithful wingman, his furry friend, and most of all, his long-lost son. In a moving series of reunion scenes, Odysseus learns that though he brought much of himself to war and back again, he also left much of himself at ho...

Word and Tomato Salad (Words, Words, Words 30) 01.11.2024

If tomatoes are a fruit, why can't you put them in a fruit salad? Somewhat more importantly, did you know cashews aren't nuts? And most importantly of all, what does any of this have to do with the theory of translation? Today I'm responding to a question about the difference between technical, scientific terminology, and the words we use in everyday speech. Are these really the same language, eve...

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