Why Not Both

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. We caught up with Nichole Perkins and Bim Adewunmi of Thirst Aid Kit right at the end of their epic run as the best podcast about female desir...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Balancing his work as a tv composer, drummer, and podcaster is no easy feat but Joe Wong masters it with grace. We loved getting to chat with...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. For this special double episode, we got to chat with Sad13 aka Sadie Dupuis and Lustra , aka Helena Marzec-Gołąb, about the magic of language...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. At the beginning of Los Angeles lockdown, we virtually sat down for a chat with Nite Jewel , aka Ramona Gonzalez, to talk about all things mus...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. When she’s not fundraising for families in Columbia or crafting visual art, Lido Pimienta is creating songs that transcend all cultural and li...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. From creating collaborating projects to advocating for democratizing activism, podcaster, writer and musician Andre Henry embodies the multi-f...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. We loved getting metaphysical with Ioanna Gika. From sharing how the nature of loss and grief informed her work to discussing the finer points...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. It’s no surprise that Aurora is spending her time in lockdown creating magical works of art such as her video Exist For Love , where she manag...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. What happens when you trap punk icon Kathleen Hanna at home during a pandemic? It turns out you get a mix of activism, arts and crafts, and vi...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Shalita Grant is a force to be reckoned with in the absolute best way possible. While most people know her for her roles on NCIS and Search Pa...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. From Icelandic folktales to quarantine discos, Jarvis Cocker can likely tackle any subject with a dry wit and deep sense of sincerity. He shar...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. It’s impossible to not get swept away by the quiet intensity of Soko’s passion for life and creativity. During our time together, we talked ab...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. In the before times, we got to spend a delightful afternoon with Jonathan Bates of Big Black Delta . We delved into the finer points of the im...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. We dare you to find an artist more charming than Mxmtoon . She chatted with us about breaking it to her parents that she was secretly a viral...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. In honor of Juneteenth, we talked with Los Angeles artist Tolliver about “ I Yield My Time (F*ck You) , ” his musical take on Jeremy Frisch’s...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. This week we got to know Edoheart , a New York-based poet whose amazing journey has taken her into the world of rapping, producing, visual art...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. This week we welcomed Jehnny Beth to the show. The Savages’ frontwoman, who also expresses herself as an actor and writer, told us about the d...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Sondre Lerche is quite possibly the world’s most affable songwriter and burger aficionado. Between writing a collection of essays on music and...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. This weekend, Morgan Kibby , who performs as White Sea , told us how collaboration has been the key to her career. We also delved into the ide...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Like everyone else Mark Foster has a lot on his mind. However, as we discussed on this week’s episode, that means the nature of creativity is...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. What happens when you stay up until 5am learning how to edit your own music video? Alison Mosshart showed us the results of her experiments wi...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Alice Bag is a living LA legend and we were thrilled to chat with her about her new album Sister Dynamite as well as her book Violence Girl. S...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Before the California lockdown began, we got to spend an afternoon at Echo Park lake with Matt and Nik of Local Natives chatting about their n...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. We had way too much fun exploring musician HANA’s process making her entire album live on Twitch. From audience input about postmodern anxieti...

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. To kick off Season 3, we chatted with Joseph Fink , creator of Welcome to Nightvale , about the extraordinary circumstances that inspired his...