Jonelle + Karen
White Women Wake Up
White Woman Wake Up is a podcast where two white women from different generations come together to have honest, multi-generational conversations about how we, as white women, can awaken our own cultural biases and challenge the status quo. Through authentic, vulnerable dialogue—free from shame—we aim to empower ourselves and our listeners to unlearn harmful conditioning, build greater empathy, and embrace new ways of being in the world. We hope to inspire transformative growth by fostering curiosity, learning from one another, and embracing the complexities of our shared and individual experie...
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Jonelle + Karen
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Bias and the Power of Perception 31.01.2025 23:26
Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Karen and Jonelle explore the shifting public perception of the Menendez brothers’ case and use it as a springboard to discuss societal biases. They examine why certain conversations, like those about sexual abuse, have progressed while discussions around race, gender identity, and privilege continue to face resistance. The co-hosts delve into the roles of white w...
Breaking the Comparison Trap: Listening with Intention and Awareness 24.01.2025 28:12
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of White Women Wake Up co-hosts Jonelle and Karen explore the pitfalls of comparison. They examine how comparisons can diminish others' lived experiences, particularly when privilege or cultural bias shapes the lens of understanding. They acknowledge that comparisons often stem from well-meaning intentions, like fostering empathy, but can unintentionally shut...
Fear, Facts, and Trans Rights: Breaking Down Barriers to Understanding 17.01.2025 26:01
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of 'White Women Wake Up,' co-hosts Karen and Jonelle discuss the relationship between fear and policy, particularly focusing on transgender issues and gender-affirming care for youth. They address the importance of listening to diverse perspectives, the misinformation surrounding gender-affirming care, and the harmful impact of absolutes like those expres...
The Fight for Safe Spaces in Education 10.01.2025 27:42
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of White Women Wake Up, hosts Jonelle and Karen explore the complexities surrounding a policy requiring teachers to inform parents if students disclose their gender identity or pronouns at school. This mandate, embedded in a California mental health bill, has sparked debate over balancing student privacy with parental rights. The discussion highlights the unique ch...
Cancel Culture: Growth or Shutdown 03.01.2025 30:38
Send us Fan Mail Today's discussion centers on the provocative idea that cancel culture may inadvertently reinforce white supremacy. The hosts reflect on how canceling individuals for past mistakes can stifle meaningful dialogue and leads to performative activism rather than fostering change. They emphasize that cancel culture, while sometimes justified, typically lacks nuance, excluding indi...
Unpacking Triggers: Bridging Perspectives and Fostering Growth 27.12.2024 34:06
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of White Women Wake Up, hosts Jonelle and Karen dive into an honest, raw exploration of the words, biases, and perspectives that trigger them as white women navigating conversations about race and privilege. Through personal stories—like Karen's internal judgments and Jonelle's discomfort with differing family views—they unpack the emotional weight of ter...
The Myth of Neutral: Race, Gender, and Accountability 20.12.2024 26:59
Send us Fan Mail Jonelle and Karen discuss the unintentional harm caused by well-meaning actions, particularly microaggressions, which dismiss and invalidate marginalized identities. They explore how white women often perpetuate inequality without realizing it. Karen shares a personal story about a microaggression she committed, highlighting the importance of recognizing and addressing subconsciou...
Performative Activism vs. Meaningful Change: Lessons from a Sundown Town 13.12.2024 29:12
Send us Fan Mail This episode delves into the complexities of allyship and systemic racism through the lens of a viral TikTok controversy involving the town of Coleman, Alabama—a historic sundown town. Karen and Jonelle unpack the story of a well-meaning white woman whose offer to "hold hands" with Black visitors at a Christmas market sparked backlash online. They explore the concept of...
Starting the Journey: Learning, Growing, and Waking Up 05.12.2024 28:39
Send us Fan Mail This episode introduces a space for honest conversations about self-reflection, personal growth, and navigating privilege. We’ll unpack inherited biases, foster accountability, and explore ways to deepen understanding through open dialogue. Here is a summary of this episode: Different Life Perspectives: A millennial and a baby boomer share their unique experiences and lessons lear...
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