What It's Like To Be... with Dan Heath

Outsmarting drunks, competing with ride-share apps, and discovering that some of your passengers were Spice Girls with Jamie Owens, a London cabbie. How much does it cost to buy a cab? And what's "The Knowledge"? You can find Jamie on YouTube at his channel "Jamie The Cabby" . WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" ....

Overcoming "soft objections," hustling to line up meetings, and navigating the line between business and friendship with David Johnson, a third-generation life insurance salesman. What is the mistake that "ruins careers" for salespeople? And what is a "feed list"? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It'...

Framing a scene to draw in the audience, dealing with screaming directors, and getting lost in an actor's performance with Pauline Edwards, a camera operator. What's it like filming a reality TV show? And what's a "swingle"? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essent...

Hauling 32,000 lbs of dead rats, strategically planning every turn and pit stop, and soaking up the highway sunrises and sunsets with Kathy and Gene Lednicky, team truck drivers. What's the chatter like on the CB radio? And what's a "lumper”? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a curated Spotify playlist with som...

Conjuring a world where kids can reinvent themselves, running a small town in the woods, and witnessing camp counselors falling in love with Eric Sasson, a summer camp director . What happens on the last night of camp? And why does the question "Do you have a minute?" spark anxiety? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's...

Transforming school buses into ice cream trucks, watching kids grow up (one popsicle at a time), and struggling to keep the freezers running with Erin Bailey, an ice cream truck driver in New Jersey . What’s her best selling treat? And does she ever get sick of the ice cream truck song? Music credit: "The Entertainer" by Scott Joplin Courtesy of Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed u...

Learning to read the ocean, performing CPR on a dolphin, and leading daring (and sometimes foolish) rescues with Ed Vodrazka, an ocean lifeguard in California. What are the signs that someone is in trouble in the water? And how do you stay vigilant after many hours in the tower? Ed is the author of a couple of books about ocean lifeguards, including Stories from Sea Level: The Heroic and Humorous...

Scanning crowds for suspicious behavior, learning how to leap from moving vehicles, and investigating every threat to the president with Cindy Marble, a retired Secret Service agent. What's it like to witness history up close? And what is "left of boom"? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a curated Spotify playl...

Scouting for signs of greatness, bolstering players after heartbreaking losses, and fighting the "yips" with Vesa Pönkkä , a veteran tennis coach. Why are tennis matches played in silence? And what's a "lucky loser”? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes...

Taking late-night phone calls from panicked clients, dueling with company lawyers over what to disclose, and rushing to preempt unfavorable stories with Chris Thomas , a PR crisis manager. What was it like to manage the media frenzy surrounding the Elizabeth Smart case? And what's the worst possible answer to a journalist's question? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's...

Churning out creative possibilities on tight timelines, crafting bespoke stock images with help from AI, and pitching unique ideas to risk-averse clients with Jo Skillman , a creative director in Texas. Why do a lot of creative directors grind their teeth at night? And what is a "swoop and poop"? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack&quo...

Reading canine body language, boarding dogs to teach them manners, and training the dogs' owners with Keely Korbel, a dog trainer. Is it a good idea to clone your dog? And what is a "marker word"? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue....

Unearthing ancient wine cellars, finding the right places to dig, and tracing the arc of lost civilizations with Eric Cline, an archaeologist. What's the difference between a shard and a sherd? And what will archaeologists of the future make of us? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a curated Spotify playlist with some es...

Building cases against MS-13 gang members, flipping a suspect in an interrogation, and writing countless subpoenas for phone records with Dan Brunner, a retired FBI Special Agent. What's the significance of the "1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle"? And what does it take to get a fugitive on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...

Raising cattle in the high desert, hauling calves to auction, and protecting the herd from mountain lions with Chachi Hawkins, a cattle rancher in southwest Texas. How did she go from selling clothes to selling cattle? And does she ever get attached to particular calves? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a curated Spotify pla...

We've got a special bonus episode for you this week! Our friends over at Choiceology, the podcast hosted by Katy Milkman, explores the lessons that can be gleaned from behavioral economics. They tell true stories with high-stakes, sharing what the latest research tells us about making better decisions. In this episode, called “The Superforecasters” , they examine President Barack Obama’s deci...

Diagnosing what ails struggling companies, choosing the "least crappy option", and managing constant stress with Jeff Vogelsang, a turnaround consultant. What kind of personality do you need to lead turnarounds? And what does it mean to make someone "available to industry”? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a c...

Caring for patients with serious burns, making sure the correct leg gets operated on, and working 24 hours straight with Teresa Shuster, a nurse in Florida. How did a patient change the trajectory of her career? And what's a "Code Brown"? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a curated Spotify playlist with some es...

Crafting jokes that kill, hustling to find gigs, and improvising based on the audience's reaction with Chris Grace , a stand-up comedian. What's the worst he's ever bombed? And what is a "bringer" show? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our...

Cutting to accentuate the client's eyes and ears, plotting to tame Einstein's hair, and riding the ups and downs of entrepreneurship with Ona Diaz-Santin , a hair stylist and owner of 5 Salon & Spa in New Jersey. What's the most irritating way a client can respond to a haircut? And why was she christened "The Hair Saint"? Our show takes a lot of inspiration from Studs...

Pushing perfectionism to its limits, suffering third degree burns from slag, and having your welds “shot” by X-rays with Matt "Lucky" Reed , a welder in Florida. What happens to welders' eyes if they don't wear protective hoods? And what's a time-tested way of trolling a fellow welder? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack...

Delivering the perfect first lesson, working with 89-year-old students, and learning how to charge for your work with Christina Whitlock , a piano teacher in Indiana.  How does she help students hear the heartbeat of music? And what is it like to teach a student from first grade through college? IF YOU LIKE THIS EPISODE: Check out what it's like to be a creative director , a tennis coach , or...

Refurbishing old sleighs, reviewing advance dossiers on kids, and going to “Santa School" with Larry Jefferson , a professional Santa Claus based in Dallas. How does he handle situations when kids ask for something Santa could never grant? And what would a kid have to do to get coal? Music credit: "Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creat...

Managing complaints from parents, handling the horrors of teenage social media, and serving as an emergency substitute teacher with Marcus Belin , a high school principal in Illinois. How does it feel for everyone in town to know him as The Principal? And what exactly is a “sandwich email”? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be...  "starter pack" . It's a...

Scouting body disposal sites, investigating obscure poisons, and computing royalty payments with Donna Andrews , the mystery novelist behind the Meg Langslow series. How do you make a living as a mystery novelist? And could Tylenol be a murder weapon? Know someone who is a great storyteller that we should talk to about their job? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.com WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab...