Christine Kiefer
What Did They Mean By That?
This is a podcast where two sisters bring to each episode the lyrics of a song. Neither sister knows the song until the show goes live. This element of surprise makes this show unique as the analysis by one is off the cuff, while the other has it heavily researched. They analyze words, connect them to their real life, sort out misheard lyrics, and offer history into the band and the song’s true meaning. Always full of banter and funny quips about what it's like to just be a human.
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Christine Kiefer
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Latest episode
Mar 11, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 28- Redemption Song- Bob Marley 21.03.2022 21:41
Join us as we discuss the last song on the last album recorded by the master of Reggae, Bob Marley. A song of triumph, faith, and forgiveness, it's a beautiful acoustic song outside the box of Marley's usual wheelhouse, and so worth it. Live Performance Live Performance and Interview Johnny Cash and Joe Strummer's cover
Episode 27- Love It If We Made It- The 1975 17.03.2022 50:31
****Listener Discretion Advised*** This episode contains adult content and profanity Join us as Julia shares a song by a band she's obsessed with! The 1975 may not be on your playlist yet, but after this, you jut might become a fan. This episode takes a look at each line of the song, necessary to understand these cryptic, but still hopeful lyrics. Official Video of "Love it if We...
Episode 26- I've Got Friends In Low Places- Garth Brooks- PLUS A SPECIAL GUEST! 14.03.2022 39:13
Do you have friends in low places? What did Garth Brooks mean by that? Or was it even Garth who wrote the song? Listen to get these questions answered about this country icon. Also, we're very excited to host our guest, Jen Norman, a talented musician out of St. Louis. Join the sisters, plus one, to talk about low places where friends live, her Moon Baby song, and wh...
Episode 25- No Rain- Blind Melon 10.03.2022 40:12
Tune in for this 90's hit. A happy song, with an iconic video, and epic vocals. Everyone knows this one, but let's talk about this band, this song, and Shannon Hoon's short career. Lots of love in this one. Music Video "No Rain" 1994 No Rain Performance Guns 'N Roses Video 1994 "Soup" Performance
Episode 24- The Reflex- Duran Duran 07.03.2022 46:26
You loved this band in 1984, didn't you? And crushed hard on its members. You also would sit in front of the TV and wait to see premiers of each of their videos. This is THE band of the 80's and they did not disappoint. However, what the heck did any of them mean by anything they ever wrote? We'll take a stab at figuring out this one, and are sure to surprise you along the way. Office video Th...
Episode 23- Cornflake Girl- Tori Amos 28.02.2022 33:09
Listen as the sisters take a deep dive into a song by a woman who was born to sing and play the piano like a BOSS! This feminist icon, with her fiery red hair and sultry demeanor wrote this song about the relationship between women, and a very dark connection to a Alice Walker novel. You don't want to miss this one, melomaniacs. #girlpower Cornflake Official Music Video Int...
Episode 22- Zombie- The Cranberries 24.02.2022 34:56
Join the sisters in musical commentary of this Irish band of the 1990s. With one of the most memorable female vocalists in rock history, this band nailed it with this protest song, and so much more. This song's meaning may be sad, but the music of this band continues to bring such joy to the world. RIP Delores. Zombie Official Video 2009 interview Dolores O'Riordan 1994 Interview...
Episode 21- Waterfalls- TLC 21.02.2022 38:05
Join the sisters in this musical commentary of these QUEENS of the early '90's. With an upbeat and catchy tempo, the lyrics might not quite match the enthusiasm of the music. What did these ladies mean by this? Music Video Interview after the Grammy Awards Bette Midler Cover The Other Guys quotes Cover art by Kitty Sopow
Episode 20 - Michael Jackson- Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 17.02.2022 44:40
Written exclusively by Michael, and the opening track of Thriller, we bet you don't know what he meant by this. A 1982 hit, and one performed live with fast tempo and the energy only this icon can bring, after you listen, this just might become your favorite from the King of Pop. MJ Live performance 1987 MJ Live Performance 1997 Excerpt from "This is It" Documentary 2009 Manu Dibango Live Pe...
Episode 19- Hurt- Nine Inch Nails and Johnny Cash 14.02.2022 43:21
Take a listen as we discuss Trent Reznor and this Nine Inch Nails classic. True to her love of dark, brooding, sad songs, Julia presents the obvious messages in this song, along with the little known facts you'll want to know about this impactful artist and his 1995 song. Also, if you thought you heard a different version of this song before, you're not wrong. That's Johnny Cash...
Episode 18- Throwing Shade 10.02.2022 35:15
Join us for a bonus round of Christine throwing all the shade. We will also drop a hint about some upcoming content. No in depth lyric analysis this time around, just some random musings from your favorite sisters.
Episode 17- Fire and Rain- James Taylor 07.02.2022 30:13
Melomaniacs, Join us as Christine presents James Taylor, a staple in American singer-songwriter history. We'll discuss Fire and Rain and how it actually has nothing to do with a plane crash. Come listen and discover what James really meant by that with this tranquil, confessional song. Live Performance 1970 James on Stephen Colbert in 2015 Art by Kitty Sopow Subscribe to Aunt Tracy's P...
Episode 16- Killing Me Softly- Lori Lieberman/Roberta Flack/The Fugees 03.02.2022 40:56
Join us as Julia presents this beautiful song with a controversial history. Who meant what when talking about being killed softly by who's song? Lori Lieberman's performance Lori Lieberman's performance of Empty Chairs Washington Post article regarding Lori's take on the song
Episode 15- What's Going On- Marvin Gaye 31.01.2022 45:19
Come listen as we discuss the Prince of Soul's breakthrough hit. Marvin Gaye was more than a velvety voice, he was a pioneer in activism, paving the way for other Soul and R&B artists to embrace lyrics about turmoil, inequality, violence, and discrimination in the US. There is a reason this is in the top 10 songs of all time. Live performance 1980 Live performance 1972 Interview wi...
Episode 14- Every Breath You Take- The Police 27.01.2022 39:26
Join the sisters as we discuss one of the most played song in radio history. Is Sting a lover or a stalker? Or something else? We also call out Julia for her "Today years old" and try to math. It's a good one, folks. Also, Christine thinks this song has an entirely different video and talks about it like she knows what she's talking about. Every Breath You Take...
Episode 13- Paradise by the Dashboard Light- Meatloaf- WITH SPECIAL GUESTS 24.01.2022 41:38
A tribute to this rock 'n roll legend, Meat Loaf, the sisters cover this prolific song and discuss it with special guests, Julia and Christine's parents. You don't want to miss this special episode! Music Video- Paradise by the Dashboard Light Interview with Dan Rather
Episode 12- Hey Ya!- OutKast 20.01.2022 34:30
You know this song, or at least part of it... Shake it, shake it, shake it like a Polaroid Picture...the way OutKast demanded! Hey Ya! Video Newsweek Article Elizabeth DeVasto on TikTok Yvonne MK Music Art by Kitty Sopow
Episode 11 - All She Wants To Do Is Dance- Don Henley 17.01.2022 41:27
This is our first requested song! Thank you to our friend Sarah for recommending this hit song from 1984 by a prolific artist whose career has taken lots of twists and turns, but who remains a creator of catchy, memorable songs. Video- All She Wants To Do Is Dance Julia's shit Art by Kitty Sopow
Episode 10- Fake Plastic Trees- Radiohead 13.01.2022 41:47
Melomaniacs, listen as Julia presents one of Christine's favorite songs of all times, without even knowing it. Trust us, listeners, these sisters are in tune, not only to music, but to each other's whacky ways. Official Video Colbert Interview Induction into Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Isolated Lyrics Art by Kitty Sopow
Episode 9- I will Always Love You- Dolly Parton/Whitney Houston 10.01.2022 35:33
Critics said that Dolly's voice was "never as convincing as it was in this song." About Whitney, she made a "pop-gospel assertion of lasting devotion to a departing lover." But did she? Did Dolly write this about a departing lover, or someone else? An apparent love song, its actual meaning is much deeper. 1974 Performance by Dolly Parton 1995 Interview of Dolly...
Episode 8- Loser- Beck 06.01.2022 39:11
Is it poetry, is it spoken word, is it rap? You're not a loser if you can't quite tell. What we all DO know is that Beck and this song are EPIC. 120 Minutes Interview Official Video- Loser NPR Interview Art by Kitty Sopow Ask Aunt Tracy on Youtube
Episode 7 - You're So Vain- Carly Simon 03.01.2022 44:46
Tune in for what is possibly the most ironic song ever written and see if Carly Simon ever told us who she meant by that? Are you vain enough to think it's about you? Live performance of You're So Vain NBC Interview 1994 Regis and Kelly 2004 Art by Kitty Sopow
Episode 6- Jeremy- Pearl Jam 31.12.2021 1:01:10
****TRIGGER WARNING**** This episode contains discussions of suicide, mental illness, and gun violence Today we dive into a classic, yet unsettling hit from 1991, from the grunge masters, Pearl Jam. Tune in to hear the story behind the song, and the tragedy that inspired Eddie Vedder. Suicide Hotline Jeremy Official Video Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Induction Speech Jeremy Wade Delle Webs...
Episode 5- Karma Chameleon- Boy George 27.12.2021 55:34
In this Episode, Christine explains what the iconic Boy George meant when he wrote this unique love song. Also, you won't believe how this talented artist stood up to scrutiny when he become instantly famous at such a young age. Phil Donahue Appearance 60 Minutes 1984 60 Minutes 2019 David Letterman 1998 Karma Chameleon Video Rainbow Kitten Surprise...
Episode 4- Long December- The Counting Crows 23.12.2021 42:53
In this episode, Christine gets Julia a little teary eyed and goose bumpy talking about a song by our beloved Counting Crows. "Long December" just might be a holiday song. Who knew? Long December Video August and Everything After Album Recovering the Satellites Album Ask Aunt Tracy Channel on Youtube Art by Sopowart
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